Analysis 2023 Draft Watch

[bmaurizio]

Eagles ideally would need 3 youngsters in the top 10 / 15 selections.
Their situation is deplorable so dismal, not a great endorsement for the competition having such disparities, AFL may have to no choice allow a priority pick.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Only thing we'd be able to offer the Eagles is 2023 F1, 2024 F1 and something like Fish, Kennedy or picks we got back for TDK. If Barrass left and we went after Mckay could send them Young too.

They are in a serious crisis.

Better off with a couple of players ourselves anyway so unless we're trading a Mckay or Cripps calibre player dreams of Reid are just that

 

[ray8182]

Harley Reid and Nick Watson would be the only two players imo from games and footage I’ve watched so far this season that would make last years top 10…
In what was predicted as a boom draft leading into the year it’s turned out to be by my eye so far as one of the more overrated drafts so far with all of the preseason hype…

Cadman
Ashcroft (f/s)
Sheezel
Wardlaw
Humphrey
McKenzie
Clarke
Gibney
Phillipou
Fletcher (f/s)
George
Jefferson


Are all players i highly rated last year and would be comfortably in front of the next batch ive watched over so far from this current drat year, doesn’t have the overall class or xfactor as last year, a few question marks on many of this years “top end talents” ….

Keep DeKoning
Keep 2023 draft first pick maybe split depending on finishing position
Keep our future first
Trade in 2025 picks for Campo twins
Trade in our future 2024 2nd/3rd rounders
Cincotta main list [emoji106]
Ramshaw & Dozzi must be listed, best young talent we’ve produced since recruit from within [emoji106]
Trade out Fisher & Silvagni
McGovern $Contract/ trade value
Get in a couple of young positional requirement players from other club lists for early 2nd/ 3rd rounders
Keep Dow

Cunners certainly keep if he doesn’t break down again this season
Martin contracted another year needs to not break down once again…

1. Silvagni - up for trade
2. O’Brien - delist
3. Fogarty - delist
5. McGovern - trade?
6. Carroll - up for trade
7. Plowman - delist
8. Marchbank - delist
9. Fisher - up for trade
10. Philp - delist
11. Ed Curnow - retired/reserves captain
12. Mirkov - delist







No

Last years top 10 does look stronger.

I do think though that it isn’t just Reid and Watson that could make last years top 10.

Duursma
Mckercher
Caddy

I want to see how these 3 perform for remainder of year. They have the potential to be the equal of some of last years top 10.


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[DangerousD]

Eagles ideally would need 3 youngsters in the top 10 / 15 selections.
Their situation is deplorable so dismal, not a great endorsement for the competition having such disparities, AFL may have to no choice allow a priority pick.

It would be a slap in the face for all other rebuilding clubs the past decade.

West Coast could have traded any one or more of Gaff, Shuey, Gov, Yeo to bring in more picks or even some players in their second and third years but chose not to.

Even at the mid season draft they refused to place anyone on the inactive list and took just one player.

You don’t get priority picks for refusing to turn over the list

 

[bmaurizio]

It would be a slap in the face for all other rebuilding clubs the past decade.

West Coast could have traded any one or more of Gaff, Shuey, Gov, Yeo to bring in more picks or even some players in their second and third years but chose not to.

Even at the mid season draft they refused to place anyone on the inactive list and took just one player.

You don’t get priority picks for refusing to turn over the list

They are an embarrassment for the AFL in present form, predicament receiving a trouncing of 171 points is just a waste of time for all concerned.
One would can only feel for the youngsters and what future is there for the established experienced players? AFL continue to expand the competition appetite is alway ready to go , yet very important basic issues remain unresolved.

 

[DangerousD]

They are an embarrassment for the AFL in present form, predicament receiving a trouncing of 171 points is just a waste of time for all concerned.
One would can only feel for the youngsters and what future is there for the established experienced players? AFL continue to expand the competition appetite is alway ready to go , yet very important basic issues remain unresolved.

As a supporter base we all know how bad it is to be stuck down the bottom, it’s pretty crap how long it takes to recover after rebuilding, it shouldn’t be that hard to make changes to help clubs bounce back quicker.

 

[ctwenty1]

Eagles should receive zero additional support. Ultimately they are a strong club who will need to weather their current predicament.

Like we still are...

 

[bmaurizio]

Regarding recruitment in general , vital, astute selections are most important, we need to upgrade our talent scouts, method of grading & analysis of future young talent.
Our departments just is not clicking , Austin needs better qualified support perhaps. Once identified we then need to upgraded development.
List management is another huge issue lacing , all must to be addressed, otherwise we’ll be left further behind.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Eagles ideally would need 3 youngsters in the top 10 / 15 selections.
Their situation is deplorable so dismal, not a great endorsement for the competition having such disparities, AFL may have to no choice allow a priority pick.

There's no way they should be given a priority pick - they won a premiership less than 5 years ago, and still have about half of those players still on their list surrounded by a group of youngsters - AND a massive injury list. It also compromises other clubs rebuilding.

They'll also have picks #1 and #19, so plenty of draft currency to help navigate themselves out of the crap. They could easily turn pick #1 into two or three 1st rounders, and pick #19 into a couple of 2nd round picks at worse.

I watched the last half of the U18 WA vs SA game on the weekend that WA easily won. There appears to be a fair bit of local talent that WCE could access if they traded their 1st rounder for multiple first round picks. And if I was Harley Reid, I'd be saying to my manager that there's no way I want to go there right now.

Having said all that garbage, I agree that the AFL don't want any club to compromise the rest of the competition, which is currently the case. If they were to be given 'priority picks', for mine it should be a soft allocation such as priority to a couple of WAFL or state league players, similar to what we received in 2019. Or even an extended rookie list that GCS had a for a few years.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Curtin Edwards Tholstrup and Clay Hall would be a good hall for WCE.

KPD, Ruck, HF/Mid and an Inside/Outside Mid

Reckon they'd need about 6, 8, 15 and 20 do get them all across.

That's what I'd imagine they'd be asking for Reid

 

[ferrisb]

Lol speaking of Walter The draft prospect that “five or six clubs” would take ahead of Harley Reid at pick one

Not suggesting Walter isn't a spectacular talent, but my first two thoughts when I read this were...

1) What are the chances these kinds of articles are 'inspired' by clubs wanting to spook GC into trading out its first. Or trying to talk down the value of Pick #1 / Harley Reid?

2) It gets boring writing about the same kid for 18 months as the presumptuous pick #1. You need something like this to keep the conversation going and the eyeballs engaged.

 

[ferrisb]

He's tanking himself

If Reid tanks for the rest of the year, he might slide until pick 1.001

 

[Sector 7G]

Not suggesting Walter isn't a spectacular talent, but my first two thoughts when I read this were...

1) What are the chances these kinds of articles are 'inspired' by clubs wanting to spook GC into trading out its first. Or trying to talk down the value of Pick #1 / Harley Reid?

2) It gets boring writing about the same kid for 18 months as the presumptuous pick #1. You need something like this to keep the conversation going and the eyeballs engaged.

Reid hasn't played for a month. No one was saying that after seeing him play in the Carlton 2s. Miles infront of Caddy in being AFL ready.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

For sure, many with some raw ability strengths who’s overall games may blossom into more complete players in time…

Atm there’s some reasonably good players amongst the first round but not to the level of standards or expectations they were highly regarded at coming into the season…

Look there’s always good kids every year scattered throughout the draft, hopefully we can bring a few types in that we need list wise…

Yes, my point being that the top 20 may not be the be all and end all. However, we'll still have to at least trade for a moderately high pick to target who we want. I think what made me think of it was someone saying that pick 25 (or so) was 'no use to us' in any trade regarding TDK. He's worth more than that from any club inquiring about him but in it's own right it's still a valuable pick.

 

[ray8182]

Not suggesting Walter isn't a spectacular talent, but my first two thoughts when I read this were...

1) What are the chances these kinds of articles are 'inspired' by clubs wanting to spook GC into trading out its first. Or trying to talk down the value of Pick #1 / Harley Reid?

2) It gets boring writing about the same kid for 18 months as the presumptuous pick #1. You need something like this to keep the conversation going and the eyeballs engaged.

If walters was a better kick for goal would definitely take ahead of Harley. Walters is far more dynamic and powerful than Cadman in last years draft.


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[WalshistheGOAT]

Nate Caddy you just stay there u long sleeve wearing handsome devil you

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Nate Caddy you just stay there u long sleeve wearing handsome devil you

That would be a great result if he lasted to our first pick.


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[WalshistheGOAT]

Lets hope he wouldn't be doing any of this stuff at training. Don't want Harry getting any more ideas.

 

[Bletch]

Nate Caddy you just stay there u long sleeve wearing handsome devil you

If Walter and Read go that early, I'd be having a real close look at Rogers.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

If Walter and Read go that early, I'd be having a real close look at Rogers.

I'd bid on Read at our pick if Mckercher, Duursma, Watson and Caddy are gone. Reckon he'll end up being a KPD and a damn good one at that. Just reads the play beautifull everywhere on the ground and fights and scraps as well as any.

 

[Bletch]

I'd bid on Read at our pick if Mckercher, Duursma, Watson and Caddy are gone. Reckon he'll end up being a KPD and a damn good one at that. Just reads the play beautifull everywhere on the ground and fights and scraps as well as any.

Ahead of Curtin?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Ahead of Curtin?

7cm taller, moves just as well and can play ruck and forward well compared to Curtin who can go through the middle, yeah I'd bid on him above Curtin.

I think we'll be walking away with one of Duursma Mckercher or Caddy regardless.

 

[macky99]

7cm taller, moves just as well and can play ruck and forward well compared to Curtin who can go through the middle, yeah I'd bid on him above Curtin.

I think we'll be walking away with one of Duursma Mckercher or Caddy regardless.

l would be surprised if Read would go before Curtain particularly for our list.

Most players of Read's size are going to take 3-4 years in the system, Curtain looks being ready next year.
Agree on three mentioned as being a good fit for us.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

As a supporter base we all know how bad it is to be stuck down the bottom, it’s pretty crap how long it takes to recover after rebuilding, it shouldn’t be that hard to make changes to help clubs bounce back quicker.

The Crows have somehow managed to zoom past us in the recovery stakes.

 

[DangerousD]

The Crows have somehow managed to zoom past us in the recovery stakes.

For sure, they are playing with a lot of energy and enthusiasm, it helps that their last 3 first round picks have got the Dawson, Rachele and Rankine, Dawson is one of the comps best.

Even looking at our team that smacked GC, it’s not a young enthusiastic side, it was a side filled with players in their mid to late 20s.

Did we even have one player under 21