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Analysis 2023 Draft Watch

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Elijah Hollands ✅ not sure if we're going to draft at the risk of missing on him should he ask for a trade, but I'd put 15 and picks on the table for him. Then try to get as far up the order for Dow and Fish as we can.
You would trade Docherty and picks for Elijah Hollands?

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Right, I thought that too but then the media kept parroting that they were both 'Cat B' rookies. It seems the Irish websites had it right all along.
Yeah, media got it wrong.
Aside from you only being allowed to have 1 Irish as Cat B, we only had 1 spare Cat B spot with Akuei filling the other.
 

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Schoenmaker
Wilson
Collard
Windsor
Philactides
Delean

Probably the best players to help with that in this draft outside of the obvious Watson, Mckercher, Duursma etc

Loved the insights you gave on Collard I think it was, if we had a few second rounders you might be tempted but with our hand, need to be smarter.

What about that DeMattia guy? Saw him on TV, only stopped playing cricket seriously a year or so ago.

Who are you taking?
 
Given the way we finished this year and having the two Campo boys next year I’m hoping we have a crack at trying to trade next years first to get another late first rounder this year. Having 2x first rounders would give us the flex to either take two talented kids in the late teens or alternatively if there is someone we like having the option of using both of these picks to trade up to nab someone we really rate. Clearly we have most of the prices to the puzzle and adding another 1-2 really talented kids would help a lot. I’m also all for trading the fish pick to acquire Hollands if we can. In Austin we trust.
 
Get Shaun Mannagh as a rookie.

26 years old, ready made mid forward. Perfect replacement for Dow.

Kicked 4 in the first half of VFL grand final. VFL team of the year, 5th in the JJ Liston.

Averaged 25 touches and 5 tackles a game and has also kicked 38 goals as a small...
 
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Get Shaun Mannagh as a rookie.

26 years old, ready made mid forward. Perfect replacement for Dow.

Kicked 4 in the first half of VFL grand final. VFL team of the year, 5th in the JJ Liston.

Averaged 25 touches and 5 tackles a game and has also kicked 38 goals as a small...
Has he had a consistent season with good numbers and has he got speed and good foot skills?

Some players who are crafty can dominate at that level but can’t handle the speed of the next level.

Some players best is high afl standard but worst is bog average. Need consistency.
 
Has he had a consistent season with good numbers and has he got speed and good foot skills?

Some players who are crafty can dominate at that level but can’t handle the speed of the next level.

Some players best is high afl standard but worst is bog average. Need consistency.
He literally just burst past 2 GC players to slot his 5th in the last quarter. He's got toe. And he's got skills.
 
He literally just burst past 2 GC players to slot his 5th in the last quarter. He's got toe. And he's got skills.
He must have flaws. Just looked up his stats. Kicked 34.28 in the home and away season. No goals last week but 4’against Southport in their final before that. Kicked 7 earlier in the year and most games kicked goals.
What hasn’t he been picked up yet after 265 games and 360 goals as a mid?
 
He must have flaws. Just looked up his stats. Kicked 34.28 in the home and away season. No goals last week but 4’against Southport in their final before that. Kicked 7 earlier in the year and most games kicked goals.
What hasn’t he been picked up yet after 265 games and 360 goals as a mid?
No idea. But I think this has been his best year so he may just have matured late.
 
I think we should be in the mood to punt on a "difference maker". We have a really solid list.

I'm in the mood for Lance Collard. We need some spark on our smalls list.

Pick 16, which will be probably about Pick 20/21 on the night. Go for it Curly.
 
I think we should be in the mood to punt on a "difference maker". We have a really solid list.

I'm in the mood for Lance Collard. We need some spark on our smalls list.

Pick 16, which will be probably about Pick 20/21 on the night. Go for it Curly.
Hoping we could get our hands of Leake or Wilson with our first and then add another pick for Collard and or Schoenmaker. I've been catching up on some Leake games and since he moved fwd/mid instead of half back he's been awesome. Looks an absolute natural high impact mid fwd
 

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You have to like what Collard brings; pace, X-factor, aggression, but what about the other aspects of his life? I've read some disturbing things about his home life, for example, and discipline. Is he another Yarran in the making?
Do we need to bring his family over, as he is supposedly close to them?
I'm not against recruiting him, but we need to do due diligence. We can't afford to waste a 1st round pick, which is what it will probably take.
 
You have to like what Collard brings; pace, X-factor, aggression, but what about the other aspects of his life? I've read some disturbing things about his home life, for example, and discipline. Is he another Yarran in the making?
Do we need to bring his family over, as he is supposedly close to them?
I'm not against recruiting him, but we need to do due diligence. We can't afford to waste a 1st round pick, which is what it will probably take.

I would be surprised if he doesn’t end up at WCE with a very late pick.

Supremely talented player.
 
You have to like what Collard brings; pace, X-factor, aggression, but what about the other aspects of his life? I've read some disturbing things about his home life, for example, and discipline. Is he another Yarran in the making?
Do we need to bring his family over, as he is supposedly close to them?
I'm not against recruiting him, but we need to do due diligence. We can't afford to waste a 1st round pick, which is what it will probably take.

That’s why interviews, phyic analysis (clubs employ people to sit in on interviews) and talking to their school/footy clubs plays a huge role

Most of us here would have no idea
 
Pick 16-20 - Looking at med Fwds - I don’t mind Tholstrup at all. Should be available at our pick. My early love fest for this year though - Ashton Moir. Dual sided, good overhead, dynamic, hits the scoreboard..

Collard is a dangerous but super high ceiling pick.

As an early aside - I know Archer Reid - KPF/Ruck - would not be a wasted 1st pick if you’re happy to wait a year or two. Just needs the tank.

What happened to Anthony Munkara? Worth a late or rookie?
 

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That’s why interviews, phyic analysis (clubs employ people to sit in on interviews) and talking to their school/footy clubs plays a huge role

Most of us here would have no idea
I’ll have you know mate, I do have an idea, I’m just not sure what it is.
 
Well Im not sure what we could offer North but I would absolutely be offering something up for their end of first round pick this year. Fisher and Lewis Young for Pick 19 or something? They'll be desperate for KPD
 
Season's over. Early musings.

1. Harley Reid
2. Jed Walter
3. Colby McKercher
4. Conor O'Sullivan

Fair gap

5. Ethan Read
6. Zane Duursma

Fair Gap to the next bunch.


Smokey 1st Rder

Lance Collard.


Us?...Lot of water to go under the bridge yet to have any idea. After trade period we'll know more.
 
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Pick 16-20 - Looking at med Fwds - I don’t mind Tholstrup at all. Should be available at our pick. My early love fest for this year though - Ashton Moir. Dual sided, good overhead, dynamic, hits the scoreboard..

Collard is a dangerous but super high ceiling pick.

As an early aside - I know Archer Reid - KPF/Ruck - would not be a wasted 1st pick if you’re happy to wait a year or two. Just needs the tank.

What happened to Anthony Munkara? Worth a late or rookie?
I don't know that Munkara handled life in Melbourne all that well. He certainly has talent, and that hasn't gone away, but does he has the drive to be an AFL player? I wouldn't mind if we looked into Munkara, but my expectations would be low. I think he will end up dominating in the NTFL.
 
Well Im not sure what we could offer North but I would absolutely be offering something up for their end of first round pick this year. Fisher and Lewis Young for Pick 19 or something? They'll be desperate for KPD
Funnily enough, so are we.
Wonder what happened to Lewy in such a short time frame?
 

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