Analysis 2023 Draft Watch

[swuzzlebubble]

He can't go on the Inactive list yet, so we would only have the extra spot currently if we haven't listed him at all

I'm assuming if he was listed he can go on the inactive list after the draft and before the SSP period starts.

 

[Bletch]

I'm assuming if he was listed he can go on the inactive list after the draft and before the SSP period starts.

There will be a set date for opening of the Inactive List. Haven't seen that published though. In the past, around Dec 1. Possibly same time as the SSP starts. But it's not automatically at end of the draft/rookie draft.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

100%. My read too taking personal preferences and “rumours”.

The only other I have, for needs is a Zakostelsky key position type, but no links around. There are some superb ruck prospects around our mark, but they would be surplus to needs with O’Keeffe showing sufficient promise.

There are some decent players around our range, and not many would be “wrong”, but a dashing mid with breakaway speed who is somewhat dual sided and a quality slider like Moir who can be potent deep forward, as well as offering “next level” dual sided disposal are most attractive. I was not high on Moir early after his fall from grace, but doing multiple “Phantoms”, when push came to shove, on analysis he fits our need profile best of the candidates in the range.

See this is part of my thinking why we need to take a Mitch Edwards.

He's the new generation of rucks - not 201, 202cm, but 207cm (and maybe will grow a bit more)?

He's already got a very strong reputation as an around the ground contested mark.

And has shown ability up forward too. Plus good at ground level and decent skills (contrast to Pitto's shocking kicking)

Mirkov is hopeless around the ground - let's be honest. 30/70 as to whether he makes it imo.

O'Keeffe?

From what I've read he's showing promise, but never have I read he's a terrific contested mark? (feel free...)

I'd be grabbing Edwards every day of the week.

Has elite written all over him. imho.

 

[Stamos]

I'm assuming if he was listed he can go on the inactive list after the draft and before the SSP period starts.

Yes, unless he's listed as Cat B, then I don't think we get a replacement.

 

[Stamos]

See this is part of my thinking why we need to take a Mitch Edwards.

He's the new generation of rucks - not 201, 202cm, but 207cm (and maybe will grow a bit more)?

He's already got a very strong reputation as an around the ground contested mark.

And has shown ability up forward too. Plus good at ground level and decent skills (contrast to Pitto's shocking kicking)

Mirkov is hopeless around the ground - let's be honest. 30/70 as to whether he makes it imo.

O'Keeffe?

From what I've read he's showing promise, but never have I read he's a terrific contested mark? (feel free...)

I'd be grabbing Edwards every day of the week.

Has elite written all over him. imho.

I don't think carrying 3 project rucks is good list management.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Would be shocked if we took a project ruck.

Unless Mirkov is going inactive and we are taking two SSP's

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[Bletch]

See this is part of my thinking why we need to take a Mitch Edwards.

He's the new generation of rucks - not 201, 202cm, but 207cm (and maybe will grow a bit more)?

He's already got a very strong reputation as an around the ground contested mark.

And has shown ability up forward too. Plus good at ground level and decent skills (contrast to Pitto's shocking kicking)

Mirkov is hopeless around the ground - let's be honest. 30/70 as to whether he makes it imo.

O'Keeffe?

From what I've read he's showing promise, but never have I read he's a terrific contested mark? (feel free...)

I'd be grabbing Edwards every day of the week.

Has elite written all over him. imho.

I like him. Also Will Green and Goad at around that mark potentially.

But like Stam says, we're unlikely to carry an extra developing ruck. That may change next year - we'll make a call on Mirkov, O'Keeffe and Lemmey. Perhaps only one of those three get a new contract, and then room for another developing ruck or fwd/ruck.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

I don't think carrying 3 project rucks is good list management.

Nor do I normally.

Do you think Mirkov will make it? I don't... heart issues aside (and I wish him the best).

Could Edwards play a few games of seniors in 2024? Why not!

'I just hate losing': Competitive streak driving WA ruck prospect

Set to be selected in the 2023 AFL Draft, Mitchell Edwards' competitiveness is a feature that has shaped him

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[Bletch]

See this is part of my thinking why we need to take a Mitch Edwards.

He's the new generation of rucks - not 201, 202cm, but 207cm (and maybe will grow a bit more)?

He's already got a very strong reputation as an around the ground contested mark.

And has shown ability up forward too. Plus good at ground level and decent skills (contrast to Pitto's shocking kicking)

Mirkov is hopeless around the ground - let's be honest. 30/70 as to whether he makes it imo.

O'Keeffe?

From what I've read he's showing promise, but never have I read he's a terrific contested mark? (feel free...)

I'd be grabbing Edwards every day of the week.

Has elite written all over him. imho.

One other note on Edwards. He played in the Academy match vs our 2nds during the year. Matched up directly on HOK and gave poor Hudson a bit of a toweling. Looks a talent. Surprised to see he is drifting with the likes of Green and Goad moving ahead.

 

[Stamos]

Nor do I normally.

Do you think Mirkov will make it? I don't... heart issues aside (and I wish him the best).

Could Edwards play a few games of seniors in 2024? Why not!

'I just hate losing': Competitive streak driving WA ruck prospect

Set to be selected in the 2023 AFL Draft, Mitchell Edwards' competitiveness is a feature that has shaped him

www.afl.com.au

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No, I don’t think Mirkov will make it.
But I also don’t think that’s a reason to pick a 3rd project ruck, especially with a 1st or high 2nd round pick.

 

[Benaly28]

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Why would we be going after someone who has kicking defiency,defending accountability and disposal efficiency?


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[Amers]

Anyone else noticed that Cal Twomey doesn't mention Carlton at all in his form guide, that's a good thing to me, Austin must be playing his cards close to his chest !!

I would love Ollie Murphy to slide to us, that is my dream 1st pick. George Stevens reads well for me and Ashton Moir looks an intriguing pick!

 

[Benaly28]

Would be shocked if we took a project ruck.

Unless Mirkov is going inactive and we are taking two SSP's

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You might be Edwards would be our 3rd best ruck day 1.


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[Arr0w]

Anyone else noticed that Cal Twomey doesn't mention Carlton at all in his form guide, that's a good thing to me, Austin must be playing his cards close to his chest !!

I would love Ollie Murphy to slide to us, that is my dream 1st pick. George Stevens reads well for me and Ashton Moir looks an intriguing pick!

Murphy would be a great get. Leave him at VFL for a couple of seasons, needs time to develop and build a body, but could play ahead of time as a 3rd tall

 

[Blue__Balls]

Good to see you HBF


Nah, I just pull names out of a hat


If I was running a club, and a talent identifier hitting a 75% success rate, they would be the highest paid staff member

2 out of 3 is a strong pass mark

I think you've misread - I'm not saying you brag about your hit rate, but that you often highlight that the majority of professional recruiters miss more picks than they hit.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

He might be an upgrade on Lochie O’Brien.

Because that's what we are chasing, someone who MIGHT be an upgrade on a guy we just delisted. With a first rounder at that.

Who is writing this stuff for the HUN?

 

[DangerousD]

They don’t need to do the trade until pick 7 is due, no risk.

It would be great business, even if the F1 becomes pick 1. They fast track the rebuild. Curtin would be a great investment for any side. He is going to be a top liner. Star V superstar is the only question.

The added attraction of Curtin is that he may be KPD first, but a legitimate midfielder as well as showing sufficient playing key forward. Wet Toast have “enough” developing backs, so they would have options where to deploy him if those players come on adequately. It would not be over subscribing in any position.

He is a WA boy, and as such is a great investment for a WA club. There are no top 10 WA boys on the horizon for next year at this stage Bo Allan probably the head of the class would currently only be a possible first rounder.

I’m going to disagree that it’s good business, pick 1 is very over valued imo and if their F1 ends up being number 1, they will have seriously short changed themselves.

I’m even surprised that WC didn’t bite at the rumoured trades, I have been of the opinion that trading pick 1 will give you a better chance of rebuilding.

I’m surprised their F1 is only getting interest by GWS.

I think WC going after Curtain is a good move, just surprised that they are offering potentially pick 1, when pick 1 would get you three first round picks.

 

[BluStreak]

It is time to reconnect with a Simpson and a Murphy.

 

[The Bighouse]

Anyone else noticed that Cal Twomey doesn't mention Carlton at all in his form guide, that's a good thing to me, Austin must be playing his cards close to his chest !!

I would love Ollie Murphy to slide to us, that is my dream 1st pick. George Stevens reads well for me and Ashton Moir looks an intriguing pick!

Going by ESPN’s phantom, O.Murphy in the 30’s…

 

[marcmurphy3]

Anyone else noticed that Cal Twomey doesn't mention Carlton at all in his form guide, that's a good thing to me, Austin must be playing his cards close to his chest !!

I would love Ollie Murphy to slide to us, that is my dream 1st pick. George Stevens reads well for me and Ashton Moir looks an intriguing pick!

I think draft watchers probably just aren't paying as much attention / putting in as much effort to find out what we might do. We aren't that relevant this year in terms of shaping the draft given where our picks are. Might mean we pull a surprise.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Going by ESPN’s phantom, O.Murphy in the 30’s…

I understand that his sprint testing has concerned some suitors

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[Blue and Silver]

Fyi

Freo and Bris look likely to trade with GC for the picks between our two. Which means there will be 4 teams between our picks rather than 2

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[tragic]

Fyi

Freo and Bris look likely to trade with GC for the picks between our two. Which means there will be 4 teams between our picks rather than 2

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From my understanding Brisbane will trade for 24 and Fremantle for a pic in the 30's as per Cal Twomey

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Going by ESPN’s phantom, O.Murphy in the 30’s…

He didn’t strike me as being physical enough to succeed as a KPD in the AFL. He may surprise but he wouldn’t be my preference.


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[Coona Blues]

Fyi

Freo and Bris look likely to trade with GC for the picks between our two. Which means there will be 4 teams between our picks rather than 2

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From my understanding Brisbane will trade for 24 and Fremantle for a pic in the 30's as per Cal Twomey

Reports suggest Brisbane will target a ruck (rumoured Green) at this pick, which makes perfect sense given “The Big O’s” vintage. Therefore won’t do us any harm.