11-12 to 10-5 at 3 qtr time says it all.
We should have been miles in front but bad kicking is bad football.
Two players from that night who missed last qtr goals are now delisted.
That loss was on the players
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We should have been miles in front but bad kicking is bad football.
Two players from that night who missed last qtr goals are now delisted.
That loss was on the players
Jed Mcentee
Martin Frederick
Sam skinner
Sam Mayes
+ some other children
That match was lost on thursday
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I sort of agree but from memory the Crows were absolute trash to start the year as well so being in the position to lose was bad enough.
They didn’t have a great start but not as bad as I thought.
Lost to Freo round 1 by a point then 7 goals to Collingwood then beat us then 4 point loss to Essendon then beat Richmond.
Not to bad for a crap team, we should have beaten them hands down like we did in the last game of the season.
I just think this team has got away with a lot of unforgettable performances with all the blame going on Hinkley.
We have improved our list just with the players we have traded in and delisted.
I’m expecting an improvement this year because of that even with Ken’s poor coaching.
Strange thing is if we do improve this year posters on this forum will 100% say it’s because of the players not Ken but if we don’t improve or go backwards it’s all Ken’s fault with zero blame on the playing group.
Ken should have been arsed out long ago and hopefully this is his last year but don’t expect with him gone magically our performances will improve.
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TheBrownDog
u wot m8? That was the most obvious free in the history of football.
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Questionable that Dawson should of actually taken the kick though.
RussellEbertHandball
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I blamed the players 100% for the Ebert tribute game, they won enough of the ball, dominated possession stats, but didn't have the brains to use it properly, couldn't handle the expectations and build up to the game.
And the players were to blame for the stupid things they did next week in the last quarter against the crows, missing goals, not using team mates, the Houston soccer, the Mayes tackle etc.
Trouble is the main 16 to 18 players knew they could get away with it with minimal consequences. Hinkley has his favourites, the gold passes, the dog racing syndicate members etc. Hinkley isn't hard enough on them and they are mentally fragile when it counts.
That's why I disagree with a lot of posters who say we have a team good enough to win the flag. We are not skilled enough and not mentally tough.
As Clarko said when the Hawks let the Pies pinch the 2011 PF by 3 pts, we just
From his 2011 PF presser sums up the players and Hinkley over the last 5 years.
Hawks just weren't hard enough: Clarkson
Hawks coach Alastair Clarkson was left fuming after his side was eliminated from the AFL finals after their dramatic three-point loss to Collingwood.
www.abc.net.au
"I don't want to hear about any pride or bad luck and all that sort of rubbish that's going to come our way," Clarkson said. (and I don't want to hear that someone has to lose a close game)
"We should have won a game of footy and we miss out on a grand final because we just weren't hard enough and tough enough for long enough.
"Bottom line, you need to do it for four quarters in finals footy and we didn't.
"We paid the price and it's a bloody hard price to pay when you've got a side on the ropes and you just don't deliver the final fatal blow.
"We've got to learn the hard way and that's watch two good sides having a crack at each other for the title, knowing full well that we could quite easily have been participating ourselves.
"We just wasted opportunities. We only had 11 marks for the whole last quarter. Ultimately it cost us the game.
"Whether it's set shots, a couple of umpiring decisions, you put them all in the mix, who knows?
"The bottom line is we weren't tough enough, hard enough for long enough. We learnt a pretty fatal lesson as a result of it."
philreich
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And then after that, they lost a grand final, followed by a hat trick of flags. Meanwhile at Port, we lose back to back prelims, and then apparently we lost the fire in the belly. I still find that extraordinary!!!I blamed the players 100% for the Ebert tribute game, they won enough of the ball, dominated possession stats, but didn't have the brains to use it properly, couldn't handle the expectations and build up to the game.
And the players were to blame for the stupid things they did next week in the last quarter against the crows, missing goals, not using team mates, the Houston soccer, the Mayes tackle etc.
Trouble is the main 16 to 18 players knew they could get away with it with minimal consequences. Hinkley has his favourites, the gold passes, the dog racing syndicate members etc. Hinkley isn't hard enough on them and they are mentally fragile when it counts.
That's why I disagree with a lot of posters who say we have a team good enough to win the flag. We are not skilled enough and not mentally tough.
As Clarko said when the Hawks let the Pies pinch the 2011 PF by 3 pts, we justweren'taren't hard enough and tough enough for long enough.
From his 2011 PF presser sums up the players and Hinkley over the last 5 years.
Hawks just weren't hard enough: Clarkson
Hawks coach Alastair Clarkson was left fuming after his side was eliminated from the AFL finals after their dramatic three-point loss to Collingwood.
"I don't want to hear about any pride or bad luck and all that sort of rubbish that's going to come our way," Clarkson said. (and I don't want to hear that someone has to lose a close game)
"We should have won a game of footy and we miss out on a grand final because we just weren't hard enough and tough enough for long enough.
"Bottom line, you need to do it for four quarters in finals footy and we didn't.
"We paid the price and it's a bloody hard price to pay when you've got a side on the ropes and you just don't deliver the final fatal blow.
"We've got to learn the hard way and that's watch two good sides having a crack at each other for the title, knowing full well that we could quite easily have been participating ourselves.
"We just wasted opportunities. We only had 11 marks for the whole last quarter. Ultimately it cost us the game.
"Whether it's set shots, a couple of umpiring decisions, you put them all in the mix, who knows?
"The bottom line is we weren't tough enough, hard enough for long enough. We learnt a pretty fatal lesson as a result of it."
I never said it wasn’t a free but it was a stupid tackle at the worst possible time like Shuey’s.
Our tackling under pressure has always been suspect that’s half the reason we give so many dumb free kicks.
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Shocked the AFL hasn't leaked some early fixtures by now to fill the quiet period!
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supposedly they are going announce the schedule for All in Adelaide Round first and then the rest a few days later.
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Questionable? Murphy was doing cartwheels after he kicked it.
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You missed Robbie’s last game? I’m not being a smart ar*e but that was in my top 20 of game day moments.
I don't blame anyone for choosing to not go to matches again after hinkley and his merry men took a collective squat on the grave of our greatest player.
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Heard a rumour last week that the draw will be released on Friday - can anyone confirm?
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No doubt it'll be soon now that the AFLW is done and the draft is about to wrap up. This league just has to keep itself in the headlines for even the most trivial of reasons.
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That will hopefully shut the dude up on Twitter who's been wailing about the delay nearly every day for the last month.
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In R23 this year both Freo and WCE had away matches by some quirk of the fixtures, and it looks like happening again in R1 of 2023 - the quirk this time is a Pommy ginger.
I couldn't get around the Herald Sun paywall for this one, but it looks like Ed Sheeran has booked Optus Stadium that week.
I couldn't get around the Herald Sun paywall for this one, but it looks like Ed Sheeran has booked Optus Stadium that week.
AFL 2023: Ed Sheeran concert creates Round 1 fixture headache
The AFL Magic Round and Ed Sheeran’s Australia tour could be set for a round 1 collision with Optus Stadium likely to be unavailable for the season start.
RussellEbertHandball
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In a 23 round fixture where the AFL has said because of travel fairness, no WA team will travel 2 weeks in a row and either team will get 2 games in a row in WA when the derbies are on, there will be no game in WA either during the bye rounds or Rd 23.
Guess the WA government has told the AFL we have gifted your two clubs a $1.6bil stadium, so give the venue managers a say when they want no AFL played one weekend.
FishingRick04
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We used to beat Hawthorn by that until Clarko arrived!
