Injury 2023 injury thread

[Jhye Clark 13]

Our injury updates are nothing short of atrocious. Some aren't even listed on the injury list.

 

[Strange Cat]

Actually, that leads to a serious question. Australian Rules is not my native game, so forgive my ignorance.

Don't male footy players wear cups? They are mandatory in many contact and even non-contact sports (baseball) in the States.

No …running in them would be very difficult

 

[cat_shack]

Our injury updates are nothing short of atrocious. Some aren't even listed on the injury list.

Couldn’t agree more, there is a smugness to it in every interview Lloydy gives that I find extremely condescending as a member. It’s like they revel in ambiguity. If it was working, in that by deliberately being evasive and never providing any sort of tangible update, they have some sort of edge to the footy dept, then it’s hard to argue against. But it isn’t, we are currently decimated by injury. With our injury list playing such a crucial factor in our season, I feel like as supporters and members we deserve a little more respect. I have noticed during Scotty’s pressers now one or two journos (especially a female journo, not sure where she is from) are methodically going through each player to get official responses. Has to change

 

[Mr Meow]

Couldn’t agree more, there is a smugness to it in every interview Lloydy gives that I find extremely condescending as a member. It’s like they revel in ambiguity. If it was working, in that by deliberately being evasive and never providing any sort of tangible update, they have some sort of edge to the footy dept, then it’s hard to argue against. But it isn’t, we are currently decimated by injury. With our injury list playing such a crucial factor in our season, I feel like as supporters and members we deserve a little more respect. I have noticed during Scotty’s pressers now one or two journos (especially a female journo, not sure where she is from) are methodically going through each player to get official responses. Has to change

The thing is though, it really doesn't. Hard to get around that simple fact.

 

[catempire]

Couldn’t agree more, there is a smugness to it in every interview Lloydy gives that I find extremely condescending as a member. It’s like they revel in ambiguity. If it was working, in that by deliberately being evasive and never providing any sort of tangible update, they have some sort of edge to the footy dept, then it’s hard to argue against. But it isn’t, we are currently decimated by injury. With our injury list playing such a crucial factor in our season, I feel like as supporters and members we deserve a little more respect. I have noticed during Scotty’s pressers now one or two journos (especially a female journo, not sure where she is from) are methodically going through each player to get official responses. Has to change

Well said. Been said many times but just look at the gulf in how well other clubs do this compared with us. It’s an indictment.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Well said. Been said many times but just look at the gulf in how well other clubs do this compared with us. It’s an indictment.

I agree- and the classic example is Rhys Stanley

One of the posters Todman i think gave us an excellent update - said Rhys spoke to some of the supporters over the fence at training - and told them his vision isnt still right - which is pretty concerning - re the fractured eye socket

So he has most obviously seen an Ophthalmologist to try to get it to settle

Why couldnt GFC - tell/inform the members/supporters of that

AFL clubs are super keen re the members - are super keen to renew the membership and that is it

 

[D BRIDGE]

Our injury updates are nothing short of atrocious. Some aren't even listed on the injury list.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... I find it embarrassing the way the club updates fans on injuries.

A couple of years ago I thought it was embarrassing the way we seemed to use late outs strategically but we seem to have reigned that in.

We do so much so well, but the injury update situation is lacking compared to other clubs and it's almost disrespectful imo.

 

[catstorm]

The way this season is going injuries are going to wipe out our entire season, we just can’t get on top of them.

 

[And_ROOS]

First choice, second choice and now third tier players succumbing to injury. Better now than late season.

Bingo, I think we are good enough as it is to get into top 4, and late in the year make a flag push with a healthy list. Better now then these injuries happening in round 20 etc.

 

[goyoucatters]

I've said it before and I'll say it again... I find it embarrassing the way the club updates fans on injuries.

To a fair degree, the club simply doesn't update fans of the club on injuries. Even the ones that are mentioned are described in some of the vaguest terms possible, and their projected returns are also shrouded in mystery. When it's good enough for every other AFL club to be reasonable about this information while the Cats play the most elaborate ducks and drakes imaginable, it just all seems slightly bizarre.

We currently have at least three players who've been injured for quite some time who just don't appear on the injury list at all (Cuthrie, Kroeger and Neale). What possible purpose this serves is absolutely beyond me. And in the light of the supposed wisdom of not listing some players and their injuries for 'privacy reasons', I would have thought Ollie Henry's unfortunate circumstances arising from the Richmond game would have been the perfect moment to institute such a directive again. Yet the details of his injury get routinely rolled out, thereby permitting everybody whose level of humour hasn't surpassed preschool levels to guffaw endlessly about what he's facing in recovery. If ever a player deserved some privacy about their injury issues, I would have thought it was our current #36.

Of course it makes no difference to when any of them will be back. Of course the club can do whatever it pleases when it comes to being 'forthright' about player injuries with the fanbase. But the fact that it's good enough for every other club to be miles ahead of the GFC in simply offering actual and factual injury updates to the wider AFL-following public does makes the Cats look pretty sad and silly in their approach in my view.

 

[Mr Meow]

To a fair degree, the club simply doesn't update fans of the club on injuries. Even the ones that are mentioned are described in some of the vaguest terms possible, and their projected returns are also shrouded in mystery. When it's good enough for every other AFL club to be reasonable about this information while the Cats play the most elaborate ducks and drakes imaginable, it just all seems slightly bizarre.

We currently have at least three players who've been injured for quite some time who just don't appear on the injury list at all (Cuthrie, Kroeger and Neale). What possible purpose this serves is absolutely beyond me. And in the light of the supposed wisdom of not listing some players and their injuries for 'privacy reasons', I would have thought Ollie Henry's unfortunate circumstances arising from the Richmond game would have been the perfect moment to institute such a directive again. Yet the details of his injury get routinely rolled out, thereby permitting everybody whose level of humour hasn't surpassed preschool levels to sfellow endlessly about what he's facing in recovery. If ever a player deserved some privacy about their injury issues, I would have thought it was our current #36.

Of course it makes no difference to when any of them will be back. Of course the club can do whatever it pleases when it comes to being 'forthright' about player injuries with the fanbase. But the fact that it's good enough for every other club to be miles ahead of the GFC in simply offering actual and factual injury updates to the wider AFL-following public does makes the Cats look pretty sad and silly in their approach in my view.

They're often so wrong that it provides a different kind of humour. I've seen 8 weeks reduced to 4 or extended to season long before.

 

[goyoucatters]

They're often so wrong that it provides a different kind of humour. I've seen 8 weeks reduced to 4 or extended to season long before.

I don't dispute that this happens at all. Yet it's still much more in keeping with the intent of providing meaningful injury updates (and then regularly 'updating' the updates) than the nondescript nonsense our clubs tends to post throughout any given football season.

 

[Turbocat]

whats the Jhye C injury?

 

[cats_09]

whats the Jhye C injury?

Navicular stress reaction - so not a break at this stage

 

[catsfootyfan89]

Navicular stress reaction - so not a break at this stage

Bloody hell - I hate seeing the word 'navicular' anywhere in a conversation about injuries at Geelong. So much trauma there.

 

[goyoucatters]

Bloody hell - I hate seeing the word 'navicular' anywhere in a conversation about injuries at Geelong. So much trauma there.

Totally agree. But I also believe it means that absolutely no risks whatsoever will be taken with Jhye's recovery from here. Will surely get extended time off, on top of what's 'normally' anticipated, just to make certain that he's right to go.

Hugely disappointing to lose him now, just when there's opportunity for him and a spike in his output. But it's entirely the right thing to sacrifice the present in the interests of his future 15 years in the hoops.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Not that it matters when Clark hurt his Nav but It would just be nice to at least come out and say

"Clark pulled up sore after the game or at training Clark felt something or Clark felt something in his foot when walking down stairs".

Just give us something!

It actually makes me feel like an extreme outsider (almost an intruder because I want to know facts about players) and not involved at all the way the club shields info from me/us.

 

[fpm84]

The most bizarre thing is the complete omission of C Guthrie in this week’s injury list. I’m pretty sure it’s not common for B&F-winning-in-a-premiership-year players to just vanish.

Is he in training? Has he had surgery? What is going on?!

 

[cat_shack]

The thing is though, it really doesn't. Hard to get around that simple fact.

I get it, but football clubs are commercial enterprises, members and supporters are large parts of their revenue stream. They are accountable. It’s just a matter of having the voice heard. Members Q&A or submissions would be the first stop. It’s not asking for much. I get sensitivity around your higher profile players and not playing your hand (Danger, Guthrie) But Conway, Neale and now Clark are the future, and to have almost zero communication around their injuries just isn’t acceptable.

 

[Hamingja]

They're often so wrong that it provides a different kind of humour. I've seen 8 weeks reduced to 4 or extended to season long before.

I don't dispute that this happens at all. Yet it's still much more in keeping with the intent of providing meaningful injury updates (and then regularly 'updating' the updates) than the nondescript nonsense our clubs tends to post throughout any given football season.

I think ultimately that is why they don't do it. They say it is X, it becomes Y, then people will criticise them for mismanagement of injuries. Keep shtum and hope people don't notice / don't remember. Outside hardcore fans on an internet forum, the majority of fans will be none the wiser unless it is Danger.

Like you said earlier the privacy excuse is blown out of the water with OH. It would be fair enough to keep that quiet, or if someone had a mental health issue or whatever, but when it relates to injuries that you see on the field like hammies, broken arm, fractured cheekbone etc what's the point, everyone knows the minute it happens what the issue is.

 

[PzBlinky]

Bloody hell - I hate seeing the word 'navicular' anywhere in a conversation about injuries at Geelong. So much trauma there.

i didn't even know it was a thing until 2007... and Matty Egan.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

The way this season is going injuries are going to wipe out our entire season, we just can’t get on top of them.

We are still a chance if we get most of them back by after the bye-we have a lot of home games after that so we could go on a good winning run.

 

[goyoucatters]

The most bizarre thing is the complete omission of C Guthrie in this week’s injury list. I’m pretty sure it’s not common for B&F-winning-in-a-premiership-year players to just vanish.

Is he in training? Has he had surgery? What is going on?!

I can just hear the powerbrokers at the club now, smiling to themselves as they consider those who are asking these questions...

'See? It's working!'

#forthright

 

[cats_09]

Not that it matters when Clark hurt his Nav but It would just be nice to at least come out and say

"Clark pulled up sore after the game or at training Clark felt something or Clark felt something in his foot when walking down stairs".

Just give us something!

It actually makes me feel like an extreme outsider (almost an intruder because I want to know facts about players) and not involved at all the way the club shields info from me/us.

They mentioned it in the Thursday night team announcement - obviously something from earlier in the week since they had received his scans back:

"Clark has suffered a navicular stress reaction. He was sent for scans after he presented to the medical team with foot soreness. The Club will take a conservative approach with Jhye and he will be sidelined for the short to medium term."

 

[cats_09]

The most bizarre thing is the complete omission of C Guthrie in this week’s injury list. I’m pretty sure it’s not common for B&F-winning-in-a-premiership-year players to just vanish.

Is he in training? Has he had surgery? What is going on?!

If it's turf toe (which has been suggested), then the recover processes is mainly the idea of RICE - depending on severity, recovery can be 2 -> 3 weeks, all the way up to 6 months

Maybe at the moment the club just doesn't have answers to how long he'll be out