Injury 2023 injury thread

[Strange Cat]

Yep and both Dangerfield and Selwood were (very, very sensibly) used off the bench a lot last year. Excellent management of older players. The downstream effect of Atkins and Close not being at the same level this year among others, was more work for more veterans. They can maintain it for a game or two, but not all season long, as we saw last Friday.

If we can get a recruit like Parish or Smith it may mean that Danger can be rested or managed better through the year, I’m confident that between the kids having a big pre season and Guthrie being back in the side the senior players can be rested through the year maybe more than what we saw in ‘22

 

[kickazz]

I still can’t believe the carry on from England and the entire team being knighted off the back of that ashes win

Way way over the top

They didn't get knighted.

But yes the carry-on was over the top. I think the English test side's relevance in England is a bit precarious though, hence the carry on.

 

[Mr Meow]

To be fair, if we got all our injured players back, and for the sake of argument they all came back in the form they were in end of 2022, we are still a couple of midfielders short. Selwood is worth at least 2 quality players for leadership and impact.

And that doesn't take into account that maybe Guthrie returns to his 2022 form, but maybe someone like Danger doesn't. If we don't strengthen the midfield at minimum we will be pushing s**t uphill again next season.

I'm a lot more on the fence about that. Bruhn continuing to improve, Guthrie (our best/most consistent mid of the last 3 years he played) returning, one shiny midfield recruit and better management/luck around Dangerfield would be a potent combo. Enough to win 4 of those close games instead of 1 for starters. The defence went from 8/10 to 5/10 this season (even accounting for midfield difficulties up the field) - they aren't an old group so I'm expecting 7/10 rather than 3/10 is more likely next season.

 

[Strange Cat]

They didn't get knighted.

But yes the carry-on was over the top. I think the English test side's relevance in England is a bit precarious though, hence the carry on.

OBE sorry

Close enough and still over the top from a series win

 

[Vdubs]

I'm a lot more on the fence about that. Bruhn continuing to improve, Guthrie (our best/most consistent mid of the last 3 years he played) returning, one shiny midfield recruit and better management/luck around Dangerfield would be a potent combo. Enough to win 4 of those close games instead of 1 for starters. The defence went from 8/10 to 5/10 this season (even accounting for midfield difficulties up the field) - they aren't an old group so I'm expecting 7/10 rather than 3/10 is more likely next season.

I think getting our surgeries now, and having a full-on preseason, turning up hungry, not pickled, will be a welcome change cf how we started 23.
I hate to say it, but the effort required for what we did in 22 was not matched this year for many reasons, mainly injuries, but that maybe partly rectified by a wholesome preseason.
CS will want to give one more big opportunity for Hawkins, Danger, Cameron, CGuthrie, Duncan, Stanley, and Rohan while we have them together, then the earnest rebuild from 25.

 

[Pollywaffle]

I think getting our surgeries now, and having a full-on preseason, turning up hungry, not pickled, will be a welcome change cf how we started 23.
I hate to say it, but the effort required for what we did in 22 was not matched this year for many reasons, mainly injuries, but that maybe partly rectified by a wholesome preseason.
CS will want to give one more big opportunity for Hawkins, Danger, Cameron, CGuthrie, Duncan, Stanley, and Rohan while we have them together, then the earnest rebuild from 25.

I think they earned a season off for that fantastic 22 premiership, but next year the rubber must hit the road and some of the harder decisions put off this year need to be implemented. If we limp into 2024 with more of the same I will be disappointed.

 

[fpm84]

Quick recovery please JC!

 

[Vdubs]

Quick recovery please JC!

View attachment 1784590

AC joint surgery IS usually a quick recovery

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

It would appear they didn’t skimp on the meds

 

[standupand]

I think getting our surgeries now, and having a full-on preseason, turning up hungry, not pickled, will be a welcome change cf how we started 23.
I hate to say it, but the effort required for what we did in 22 was not matched this year for many reasons, mainly injuries, but that maybe partly rectified by a wholesome preseason.
CS will want to give one more big opportunity for Hawkins, Danger, Cameron, CGuthrie, Duncan, Stanley, and Rohan while we have them together, then the earnest rebuild from 25.

Agree with this.

But for those undergoing surgeries now, it's actually hard to see a "full-on" preseason from them.

The injuries this year (which were now apparently more than just hamstrings) could easily cripple more than our 2023 tilt.

However it goes, I'd like to see us not be afraid of utilising the squad depth in the home and away in 2024. Dempsey, Conway, Clohesy, Clark, Mullin, Knevitt, Neale - no reason these types can't take a step up and shoulder more of the load over the long season if it means we can get our seasoned campaigners in the right shape to perform at their best.

Naively perhaps I thought that that was what we might have been doing this year by giving longer lay-offs to some key players. Turns out the real situation was probably worse rather than better than what we being led to believe.

 

[standupand]

AC joint surgery IS usually a quick recovery

Google says 6 months. Is that off the mark?

 

[Footy Smarts]

Google says 6 months. Is that off the mark?

4-6 months for an every day person to gradually build up the strength and stability to conservatively return to normal actions maybe. A professional sportsman with full time rehab would be quicker than that.

Even then the majority of preseason won't be impacted by his ac joint once he's past the initial recovery phase. They won't throw him into full contact tackling too fast and maybe have a modified upper body weights program but it shouldn't affect anything else.

 

[Hamingja]

I hope Tom Stewart is in the same boat as JC and needs minor surgery post season. He can't be playing that poorly without carrying something, surely.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Need to add one to our injury list.

B Smith - Illness

 

[Mr Meow]

I hope Tom Stewart is in the same boat as JC and needs minor surgery post season. He can't be playing that poorly without carrying something, surely.

That's Stewart with almost twice as many rebound 50s and 30% more intercepts than the next best Geelong player this season, with the highest amount of disposals, effective disposals and best disposal efficiency. And easily the most number of times in the coaches votes.

His bad games are really bad - yes he's had a few this season - but without Stewart we'd have won less games and conceded more points than Hawthorn this year.

 

[And_ROOS]

That's Stewart with almost twice as many rebound 50s and 30% more intercepts than the next best Geelong player this season, with the highest amount of disposals, effective disposals and best disposal efficiency. And easily the most number of times in the coaches votes.

His bad games are really bad - yes he's had a few this season - but without Stewart we'd have won less games and conceded more points than Hawthorn this year.

I mean Stewart and other defenders like ZGuthrie and Tuohy can't run off their man and do what they did best in 2022 when our midfield is comprehensively beaten most weeks and opposition get repeat, and at times very easy i50 entries.

 

[Mr Meow]

I mean Stewart and other defenders like ZGuthrie and Tuohy can't run off their man and do what they did best in 2022 when our midfield is comprehensively beaten most weeks and opposition get repeat, and at times very easy i50 entries.

Yeah I'm in no way saying Stewart has been blameless in those memorable situations where nobody (including him) had a man and he looked around. Those were collective implosions and he was very much responsible for those like the others.

It doesn't detract from the fact that he has been a rebounding and intercepting machine this season, often our only real repellent to opposition attacks - and in my opinion some of his brain fades have been a result of mental/physical fatigue when too much is left to one player. It certainly hasn't helped that between the arcs we have gone from one of the best teams at creating spread and stopping opposition spread, to one of the worst. It becomes difficult to hit targets and block opposition attacks but Stewart has EASILY been our best player in both of those components this season.

 

[dazbroncos]

Cats napping or ready to reload after failed premiership defence?

The Cats have become the seventh premiers since 1990 to miss the finals the following season, an injury-riddled year creating havoc. Coach Chris Scott insists they do not need to be “terrible for a few years”.

www.theage.com.au

A pretty good read over the injuryies this year.

A LOT.

GO Catters

 

[Vdubs]

Google says 6 months. Is that off the mark?

way off


unless complications
and depends on what was done
maybe 4 months
given we don't formally play again for 7 months, time will tell

 

[And_ROOS]

way off

I mean theres so many factors. Depends on the extent of the injury, the persons ability to recover, the fact Cameron is a professional footballer.

And we will never know his actual recovery time if how the club reports injuries this year is any indication.

He will be put down as long term then we will see pictures of him day 1 of preseason

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

Quick recovery please JC!

View attachment 1784590

Medical types... what's the red/pinkish stuff they've covered him in?

 

[cats_09]

I hope Tom Stewart is in the same boat as JC and needs minor surgery post season. He can't be playing that poorly without carrying something, surely.

I wouldn't be surprised to read he'll have a knee arthroscopy after the season is done and that it all links back to his knee injury in round 1 - he's had that knee pretty heavily strapped most weeks, so maybe a clean up will be scheduled to ensure his pre-season is minimally impacted

 

[CHAWKTS]

I wouldn't be surprised to read he'll have a knee arthroscopy after the season is done and that it all links back to his knee injury in round 1 - he's had that knee pretty heavily strapped most weeks, so maybe a clean up will be scheduled to ensure his pre-season is minimally impacted

Understand same for SDK. Just minor but will be good as a reset

 

[cats_09]

Understand same for SDK. Just minor but will be good as a reset

Probably also linked to his round 1 incident

 

[FredLeDeux]

Medical types... what's the red/pinkish stuff they've covered him in?

It's a substitute for iodine.
Nurses hate it when you tell them you're allergic to the standard iodine, so they get their revenge by slathering you in this bright pink stuff, which takes 12 months to wear off.