List Mgmt. 2023 List Management and Trading

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

But he'd be on $750k in Brisbane. Maybe we offer another $300k - which he loses a chunk to managers and half in tax.

Just moving for money is challenging, because most clubs can offer very similar sums. You need another attractant, like coming home or the promise of greater success.

We can offer more than most because we have one of the youngest lists and haven't made the finals for six seasons

We got pillaged the last time we were successful due to cap pressure and we should be doing the same to others now

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

How many players will we be able to put on the LTI list next season?

 

[dogs105]

I wore number 20

 

[Scorpus]

Why do you keep saying that about this year's draft?

It sounds like clubs think the top 12 to 15 is excellent, but it falls off a cliff.

I thought Twomey said the top of this year's draft looks better than next year?

On Twomey's podcast the general vibe from him and the recruiters he's interviewed is there's about 8 top players after which it's very even, some of those are players one club has exclusive access to. There's been talk of poor depth and not many picks being taken. Lots of flankers, defenders, rucks, high risk Tasmanians.

If our pick is in the "very even" part of the draft, which it seems to be, it's unlikely it holds that much value. Clubs will be able to pay similar to get a pick 10 as a pick 16.

Clubs are scrambling to trade up and get pick 4 from Gold Coast, not the other way around

 

[jackster83]

Probably not. Though it's possible that having a new regime has made it easier to pick well. Especially if Nicks/our selection committee have a particular idea in regards to identity they're committed to.

I could imagine drafting for the Burton/Pyke era would just be a nightmare.

Even if those two muppets weren't interfering with drafting, it would have been hell for first and second year draftees under them. Fog, Jones, etc all struggled.

 

[Vader]

How many players will we be able to put on the LTI list next season?

LTI list is irrelevant, given that rookies no longer need to be upgraded in order to be selected.

To all intents & purposes it has been replaced by the "Inactive List" (for which I have never found any documentation on the AFL website). To be placed on the "Inactive List", a player needs to be ruled out for the remainder of the season (unlike the LTI list, which had a minimum of 8 weeks).

All of our current long-term injuries have estimated return dates mid-season 2024. Thus, none of them are eligible for the "inactive list", and cannot be replaced via the PSSP or MSD.

 

[jenny61_99]

jenny61_99 Mostyn stating he knows a players salary, can you tell him to stop it

You tell him! FFS, I'm not your mother.

 

[CharlieCrow]

Still Fitzy's best work.

 

[George CantStandYa]

You tell him! FFS, I'm not your mother.

Just mine and those you don’t agree with

 

[jenny61_99]

Just mine and those you don’t agree with

Unlike you, George, I don't read EVERY ****ing post on here. If you have an issue with what he's saying, pull him up on it. You are big enough and ugly enough to fight your own battles.

 

[GROTTO]

Going to be a long interesting wait till this trade period is over.

 

[Betts are off]

Wow BF threads are getting chippy early this year.

And we haven't even seen the Chief trade period overreactor Brett Cummings enter the fray.

I better buy some popcorn

 

[jenny61_99]

Wow BF threads are getting chippy early this year.

And we haven't even seen the Chief trade period overreactor Brett Cummings enter the fray.

I better buy some popcorn

Please note, my posts are written with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Just having a bit of banter with my arch nemesis and good mate George.

 

[Betts are off]

Please note, my posts are written with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Just having a bit of banter with my arch nemesis and good mate George.

Fight fight fight fight!!!!

 

[Dangarman]

With today's news here is the current list of players drafted by the Crows and still playing with the Crows
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Well, I don't recall drafting Curnow. This from Wiki...

He was drafted to the AFL by the Adelaide Football Club with its third selection in the 2008 AFL Rookie Draft (#40 overall), however he did not play a senior game for the Crows. He spent the 2008 season playing with Glenelg, his allocated SANFL club,[5] and was delisted by the Crows after one season.[1]

Damn! He'd be pretty handy in Crows colours now.

 

[Vader]

Well, I don't recall drafting Curnow. This from Wiki...

He was drafted to the AFL by the Adelaide Football Club with its third selection in the 2008 AFL Rookie Draft (#40 overall), however he did not play a senior game for the Crows. He spent the 2008 season playing with Glenelg, his allocated SANFL club,[5] and was delisted by the Crows after one season.[1]

Damn! He'd be pretty handy in Crows colours now.

Adelaide had Ed Curnow, not Charlie Curnow. I think you're getting the two players confused.

Ed has remarkably eked out a 221 game career at Carlton (and still counting), but he's never been anything remarkable as a player - and honestly, I don't see any reason for Adelaide regretting their decision to cut him loose.

Charlie, on the other hand, is a 2x Coleman Medal winner, and an absolute gun player.

 

[dogs105]

Well, I don't recall drafting Curnow. This from Wiki...

He was drafted to the AFL by the Adelaide Football Club with its third selection in the 2008 AFL Rookie Draft (#40 overall), however he did not play a senior game for the Crows. He spent the 2008 season playing with Glenelg, his allocated SANFL club,[5] and was delisted by the Crows after one season.[1]

Damn! He'd be pretty handy in Crows colours now.

Hasn't he retired?

 

[Tadpole]

Wow BF threads are getting chippy early this year.

And we haven't even seen the Chief trade period overreactor Brett Cummings enter the fray.

I better buy some popcorn

 

[Golumless]

Even if those two muppets weren't interfering with drafting, it would have been hell for first and second year draftees under them. Fog, Jones, etc all struggled.

Yup, especially once we made the grand final and panicked. Really, that was a career destroying period.

Take 2019 for instance, for 2+ years Pyke talked about wanting us to add more leg speed and run into our game and we rock up with this slow, inside heavy game plan week one for the year. Drafting is hard enough as it is just owing to how much luck you need (i.e. players to take to the system, actually have the ceiling you see in them, don't get injured, are rated by the coaches etc), it would be even worse when your coach/GM come up with gameplans that straight up contradict what they supposedly want.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Also SSP and MSD picks.

Still not sure why we even drafted Turner.

Cause he played really well against us in a SANFL game..

 

[Vader]

Hasn't he retired?

Retiring at the end of this season.

 

[Betts are off]

Retiring at the end of this season.

I thought you were on a Naughty Words holiday

 

[Vader]

I thought you were on a Naughty Words holiday

It was only for 24 hours, and expired yesterday afternoon.

 

[Apsaalooke]

Still bitter about our development in some respects though. I don't think it's all on the recruiters. Gallucci showed a bit as did Poholke. Chucked em on a HFF tho and let me rot.
Same could be said about Davis. Horrid management and development of a young player to throw him to the wolves at Kardinia Park on debut, then banish him.
Jarman worth a speculative rookie pick for the sentiment any day of the week.
Signorello was a low pick gamble that didn't pay off. Can live with that.

Bad selection, bad development, bad luck, whatever. Class eventually shines through.
It's an indictment on the club that no-one in that whole draft ended up being of any significant value to the team

 

[crow2crow]

Put the glass pipe down m7

If I'm wrong about about the club chasing Petty this year, I'll own it

When he comes out of contract and becomes the player some seem to think he is already, and the club chase him, different story

Again, it makes absolutely no sense to chase potential in a player with an injury that could curtail his career now, because?


As for the never having insights? Well, at least I'm giving you an insight now

Do you think you have better insights because you paint your face on game day and sit in the cheer squad?

No because I saw Harrison Petty last evening in his moonboot down on Olympic boulevard. He wont be at Melbourne next year.