List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread

[Snuffaluphagus]

Mod notice after Mr Bob did a lot of annoying work in moving days of posts out of here. As we are heading into offseason, this thread is for 2023 list management only. Getting upset on previous trades can be taken to the vent thread. Lets keep this thread on track in the part of the year it's actually relevant

 

[Ge3ks]

Shaun Mannagh

How do you pronounce Mannagh?

 

[Mags98]

I wasn’t specifically talking about this year. I just meant moving forwards with our current playing list.

I’ve mentioned him a few times but a guy like Tarryn Thomas. He’s not gettable but that sort of player. His risk is off field.

Hypothetically speaking if for whatever reason guys like Van Rooyen, Sam Taylor, Shai Bolten requested a trade to Freo then you go for it. That’s high risk (as in cost). But the type we need.

There’s of course low risk, like Ruscoe… but again what’s the point?

yeah clearly wed rather bring in a sam taylor than a ruscoe i think that goes wihtout saying

but i think picking up ruscoe doesnt preclude us getting one of those guys. if were into them the right moves will be made so that we have the spots should they be available i have no doubt of that

if the recruiting staff see somethign they like in ruscoe than i dont see an issue bringing him over on a short term deal to see if we can develop him some more, i think hes shown a bit in his short glimpses personally

 

[Mags98]

They will also be in the draft… which is something we won’t maximise if we bring in Ruscoe.

if we rate ruscoe higher than anyone in the draft at our picks than we should bring in ruscoe

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

AFL trade period is still almost 2 weeks away and we've already found a way to get rid of our future 2nd. Gotta admire the efficiency.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Part of me doesnt like the idea of doing NOTHING this draft but the other part is very interested in properly death riding a team. Port could finish anywhere next year and I think Hinkleys record in finals now speaks for itself...

 

[DragoDelph]

It's so narrow sighted, "where is the improvement coming from"
Hmm.. another year into the youngest side in the squad might just work.

We all know we need a DeGoey type burst midfielder. And we could have it with Johnson, Stanley & Erasmus with another preseason behind them.

It's so aggravating, what he's saying isn't wrong but the solution is bewildering.

 

[Ge3ks]

the other part is very interested in properly death riding a team.

We were death riding North Melbourne this year, and we were one of the only teams that lost to them.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We were death riding North Melbourne this year, and we were one of the only teams that lost to them.

The stakes are raised with 1st round picks, much more interesting

 

[Ge3ks]

I dunno about death riding Port though. If anything they will likely be stronger in 2024.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I dunno about death riding Port though. If anything they will likely be stronger in 2024.

With where they are at, it's pot luck. They finished top 4 and went out straight sets, whose to say they dont finish 5th instead and lose the first final. I dont think you could definitively say where they finish as they are as likely to finish 10th as they are 1st IMO. The comp is too even

 

[Shoeless Joe]

I would prefer Russo to Worner

Worner is the most Vanilla in our squad



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[Purple Suit]

I dunno about death riding Port though. If anything they will likely be stronger in 2024.

They are going to lose some really good experience soon, Boak was their best player in the semi when the whips were cracking. Dixon, Lycett are basically cooked. They are trying to bring in another 3 players so it will be a bit of adjusting on the fly.

They are like us and could finish anywhere 14th-1st next season.

 

[ubiquitous226]

I would prefer Russo to Worner

Worner is the most Vanilla in our squad



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I must admit I didn't understand the 2 year extension for Worner, but he's had a lot of praise so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Hazelsnuts]

I would prefer Russo to Worner

Worner is the most Vanilla in our squad



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Trey Ruscoe is a character and a likeable teammate - his dad Shane was a baseball player for Perth Heat…..Craigie boys - 6025 yeeew…

 

[Cobbler]

if we rate ruscoe higher than anyone in the draft at our picks than we should bring in ruscoe

Well I mean yeah of course. But, hard to see how he is valued higher than a crop of potentials that we’d have spent a fair time following and hoping falls to a pick in a range we have.

Ruscoe literally isn’t worth a pick, so why would we pass on one to pick him up?

We’re likely grabbing Sharp as our ‘free hit’.

Anyway, enough about Ruscoe. We’re discussing black and gold soup!

 

[Alfonz]

I dunno about death riding Port though. If anything they will likely be stronger in 2024.

But any trade should be for treating their pick as around 14-15. And if we do that, then there should be limited downside (i.e. Port rising up the ladder).

 

[Ge3ks]

They are going to lose some really good experience soon, Boak was their best player in the semi when the whips were cracking. Dixon, Lycett are basically cooked. They are trying to bring in another 3 players so it will be a bit of adjusting on the fly.

They are like us and could finish anywhere 14th-1st next season.

Boak is playing on in 2024. Dixon and Lycett were liabilities in 2023.

 

[Vimal Anand]

Link to Cal Twomeys article;

Swans chase Blue, Hawk in limbo, MSD pair waiting

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

Geelong ready to trade their top 10 pick for right player as per this. And they want to cover some part of the ground where they have defficiency.......Darcy? And we are trying for port pick as well? Some unexpected trade coming up?

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[Ge3ks]

But any trade should be for treating their pick as around 14-15. And if we do that, then there should be limited downside (i.e. Port rising up the ladder).

This. But it's all likely a moot point. There are other teams mentioned in that article that Port would be better off doing the trade with. Ideally they need two more 2nds this year.

 

[freodog]

Freddy is too fumbly for the wing IMO.
Good wingers handle the ball 30 times a game and you can’t have a fumbler getting that much ball

So he'll have to practice, and get better.

He's got speed, an enormous tank, great skills. He'll be able to burn off his opponent run into space in the F50 and we know he can kick goals. Well worth persisting with and developing next year.

 

[Superkoops]

But any trade should be for treating their pick as around 14-15. And if we do that, then there should be limited downside (i.e. Port rising up the ladder).

Cal just mentioned in passing that because we have a pick in the 20’s we could be an option for Port to trade with. They need a pick around that range to get Esava in the door. He also mentioned about 6-7 other clubs incl. Hawks who have pick 30 currently and that will no doubt push out further. For mine reading between the tea leaves on this occasion he was just shooting the breeze.

I’m really expecting quite a vanilla trade period. Darcy to re-sign. Reports varying between 2 year extension and 3 year extension. Hopefully the three years. Ryan Daniels has his finger on the pulse so I’ll go with him rather than speculation and here say.

We are likely for a pick in the second round for Henry. We have a pick in the early 40’s that could be handy to upgrade in some capacity. For example if we can package up the three picks (41,55,59) and get a pick in the late 30’s I would do that. Trade in Sharp on the cheap. We will be looking at 3-4 ND selections and around 1 new RD (possibly two if Hamling leaves).

Will be interesting to see what happens with Hamling and Reidy. Hamling in particular is gathering some interest from clubs for KPD depth. We have reportedly offered 1 year as a rookie it seems.

Not very exciting and I’m sure won’t stop posters throwing around all sorts of expansive trades for Gold Coast and Geelong first round picks in 2023, Ports Future 1st (if they are even allowed to trade) not to mention monster trade deals involving big Darcy.

 

[Polo342]

Cal just mentioned in passing that because we have a pick in the 20’s we could be an option for Port to trade with. They need a pick around that range to get Esava in the door. He also mentioned about 6-7 other clubs incl. Hawks who have pick 30 currently and that will no doubt push out further. For mine reading between the tea leaves on this occasion he was just shooting the breeze.

I’m really expecting quite a vanilla trade period. Darcy to re-sign. Reports varying between 2 year extension and 3 year extension. Hopefully the three years. Ryan Daniels has his finger on the pulse so I’ll go with him rather than speculation and here say.

We are likely for a pick in the second round for Henry. We have a pick in the early 40’s that could be handy to upgrade in some capacity. For example if we can package up the three picks (41,55,59) and get a pick in the late 30’s I would do that. Trade in Sharp on the cheap. We will be looking at 3-4 ND selections and around 1 new RD (possibly two if Hamling leaves).

Will be interesting to see what happens with Hamling and Reidy. Hamling in particular is gathering some interest from clubs for KPD depth. We have reportedly offered 1 year as a rookie it seems.

Not very exciting and I’m sure won’t stop posters throwing around all sorts of expansive trades for Gold Coast and Geelong first round picks in 2023, Ports Future 1st (if they are even allowed to trade) not to mention monster trade deals involving big Darcy.

That sounds to me like giving Henry away for virtually nothing :/. I would much rather give him away if we convince them to give us billings and pay a big chunk of his salary

 

[ignoramus]

Don't want: not one run-down tackle.

Would be a square peg

Nah, that's TheFeederClub

 

[Superkoops]

That sounds to me like giving Henry away for virtually nothing :/. I would much rather give him away if we convince them to give us billings and pay a big chunk of his salary

My opinion only and a pick between 15-19 is dreaming. More likely a pick between 20-26. Of course we already hold one of those (pick 22) and our preference (like the trade for Weller all those years ago) will be to get a pick before pick 22 (which will likely push out to 24 before the draft).

McKay will fetch pick 3 compo. Our big hope is band 2 compo for Gresham which will end up being pick 21 and we convince Saints to trade pick 21 for Henry which is about par.

 

[FreoRicci]

Would love to ask about Noble from Collingwood. Won’t play this week’s GF, probably will look for a trade