List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread

[Snuffaluphagus]

Mod notice after Mr Bob did a lot of annoying work in moving days of posts out of here. As we are heading into offseason, this thread is for 2023 list management only. Getting upset on previous trades can be taken to the vent thread. Lets keep this thread on track in the part of the year it's actually relevant

 

[Taylor]

It may come down to him, isn’t he ooc? It got mentioned to me last night we’d like to keep him.

He's out of contract and an unrestricted free agent, so offers could be competing

 

[go_the_dockers]

Can switta play wing?

 

[Polo342]

It may come down to him, isn’t he ooc? It got mentioned to me last night we’d like to keep him.

My question is are we into anyone else other than Sharp?

 

[Carnthedockers]

This makes sense to me given the messaging from the club. I get hes highly likely gone, but I'd speculate it isn't (or wasn't) a fait accompli, possible we made our best offer and aren't prepared to budge in matching others?

The words put to me, was he seems legitimately torn on what to do. That he’s being pushed by external sources.

 

[King Tenz]

It won’t come as a surprise to anyone here, but the club believes a certain manager is waging a vendetta against the club, and trying to push Henry out the door. Especially after one of our high profile people quit his stable.

Holy shit, it's actually true.

You're talking about JL leaving him I imagine. Wow.

 

[Carnthedockers]

Holy s**t, it's actually true.

You're talking about JL leaving him I imagine. Wow.

There may be an article coming in the West in a week or so..

 

[Dockeroo]

Nah, we are keen to retain hammer. Where’s the parallel? I feel we should have used him more and played cox forward more.

Doesnt it come down to list spots?

• sharp is definitely being traded in
• Henry is still not sure and might stay according to you
• our current list is already full with only Wilson, Benning, hamling, Reidy Williams and Colyer OOC
• Williams is a cat B rookie so delisting him makes no impact on the others.
• most people think we need to keep Reidy or replace him with a similar nature Ruck if he goes (unless Knobel advances in 2024?)
• the as yet unconfirmed veterans list basically creates an extra list spot, which could save hamling by freeing up a spot if Walters was moved to it.

I’d like to keep hamling too but history says it’s very unusual to only turn over 4 players in an off season. The last club to do that was Adelaide in 2012.
TBH I would get rid of all of Banfield, Hughes and Corbett before hamling but they are all contracted for 2024 and he isn’t so…

 

[Carnthedockers]

Doesnt it come down to list spots?

• sharp is definitely being traded in
• Henry is still not sure and might stay according to you
• our current list is already full with only Wilson, Benning, hamling, Reidy Williams and Colyer OOC
• Williams is a cat B rookie so delisting him makes no impact on the others.
• most people think we need to keep Reidy or replace him with a similar nature Ruck if he goes (unless Knobel advances in 2024?)
• the as yet unconfirmed veterans list basically creates an extra list spot, which could save hamling by freeing up a spot if Walters was moved to it.

I’d like to keep hamling too but history says it’s very unusual to only turn over 4 players in an off season. The last club to do that was Adelaide in 2012.
TBH I would get rid of all of Banfield, Hughes and Corbett before hamling but they are all contracted for 2024 and he isn’t so…

I’m not great with list machinations tbh. Just passing on what I know.

 

[King Tenz]

There may be an article coming in the West in a week or so..

Look forward to it. And thanks for being open about this stuff, I'm sure others would keep it quiet.

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

Doesnt it come down to list spots?

• sharp is definitely being traded in
• Henry is still not sure and might stay according to you
• our current list is already full with only Wilson, Benning, hamling, Reidy Williams and Colyer OOC
• Williams is a cat B rookie so delisting him makes no impact on the others.
• most people think we need to keep Reidy or replace him with a similar nature Ruck if he goes (unless Knobel advances in 2024?)
• the as yet unconfirmed veterans list basically creates an extra list spot, which could save hamling by freeing up a spot if Walters was moved to it.

I’d like to keep hamling too but history says it’s very unusual to only turn over 4 players in an off season. The last club to do that was Adelaide in 2012.
TBH I would get rid of all of Banfield, Hughes and Corbett before hamling but they are all contracted for 2024 and he isn’t so…

Long term injury list Kuek/Walker? (Walker I assume less likely, his injury seems like the type that has a long-ish recovery time, but the real killer is how long it takes to get back to the elite level).

 

[ilikepotatoes]

So I posted this in the Liam Henry thread but re-posting for relevance.

Current Young/McDougall clients:

Total: 46 players
Players with 2+ years experience: 35
Trade/Free Agency: 12 players
Multiple trades: 5 players
Trades/Free Agency to home state: 8 players
Trades/Free Agency to non-home state: 10
Total trade/free agency moves: 18


Adelaide: none.

Brisbane: Charlie Cameron

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Charlie Cameron

Age

31

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

Carlton: McGovern, Acres, Fisher

Collingwood: Frampton, Hill, Cameron

Essendon: Hunter, Guelfi

Fremantle: Walters, Hamling, Henry, Chapman, Johnson, Taberner, Williams, Wilson, Colyer, Banfield

Geelong: Menegola

Gold Coast: Swallow, Powell

GWS: Sam Taylor

15

Sam Taylor

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

130.5

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.5

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

60.8

1star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.8

5star

MG

110.8

2star

North: Hansen Jr, Logue

Port: Pasini, Powell-Pepper, Lycett

Richmond: Miller, Broad, McIntosh

St Kilda: Brad Hill

Sydney: Buller

West Coast: McGovern, Darling, Ryan, Allen, Williams, Clark, Trew, Bazzo, West, Baker

Bulldogs: Lobb, English, Naughton

There's something a bit odd going on with his clients.

 

[King Tenz]

So I posted this in the Liam Henry thread but re-posting for relevance.

Current Young/McDougall clients:

Total: 46 players
Players with 2+ years experience: 35
Trade/Free Agency: 12 players
Multiple trades: 5 players
Trades/Free Agency to home state: 8 players
Trades/Free Agency to non-home state: 10
Total trade/free agency moves: 18


Adelaide: none.

Brisbane: Charlie Cameron

Carlton: McGovern, Acres, Fisher

Collingwood: Frampton, Hill, Cameron

Essendon: Hunter, Guelfi

Fremantle: Walters, Hamling, Henry, Chapman, Johnson, Taberner, Williams, Wilson, Colyer, Banfield

Geelong: Menegola

Gold Coast: Swallow, Powell

GWS: Sam Taylor

North: Hansen Jr, Logue

Port: Pasini, Powell-Pepper, Lycett

Richmond: Miller, Broad, McIntosh

St Kilda: Brad Hill

Sydney: Buller

West Coast: McGovern, Darling, Ryan, Allen, Williams, Clark, Trew, Bazzo, West, Baker

Bulldogs: Lobb, English, Naughton

There's something a bit odd going on with his clients.

Need Chappy and Johnson outta there, fast. Nervous, especially for Johnson in a few years.

 

[maccamk]

Need Chappy and Johnson outta there, fast. Nervous, especially for Johnson in a few years.

I think Young is worse than a Victorian GF


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[JammoMonty]

Doesnt it come down to list spots?

• sharp is definitely being traded in
• Henry is still not sure and might stay according to you
• our current list is already full with only Wilson, Benning, hamling, Reidy Williams and Colyer OOC
• Williams is a cat B rookie so delisting him makes no impact on the others.
• most people think we need to keep Reidy or replace him with a similar nature Ruck if he goes (unless Knobel advances in 2024?)
• the as yet unconfirmed veterans list basically creates an extra list spot, which could save hamling by freeing up a spot if Walters was moved to it.

I’d like to keep hamling too but history says it’s very unusual to only turn over 4 players in an off season. The last club to do that was Adelaide in 2012.
TBH I would get rid of all of Banfield, Hughes and Corbett before hamling but they are all contracted for 2024 and he isn’t so…

Replace Reidy? Da Faq

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

So I posted this in the Liam Henry thread but re-posting for relevance.

Current Young/McDougall clients:

Total: 46 players
Players with 2+ years experience: 35
Trade/Free Agency: 12 players
Multiple trades: 5 players
Trades/Free Agency to home state: 8 players
Trades/Free Agency to non-home state: 10
Total trade/free agency moves: 18


Adelaide: none.

Brisbane: Charlie Cameron

Carlton: McGovern, Acres, Fisher

Collingwood: Frampton, Hill, Cameron

Essendon: Hunter, Guelfi

Fremantle: Walters, Hamling, Henry, Chapman, Johnson, Taberner, Williams, Wilson, Colyer, Banfield

Geelong: Menegola

Gold Coast: Swallow, Powell

GWS: Sam Taylor

North: Hansen Jr, Logue

Port: Pasini, Powell-Pepper, Lycett

Richmond: Miller, Broad, McIntosh

St Kilda: Brad Hill

Sydney: Buller

West Coast: McGovern, Darling, Ryan, Allen, Williams, Clark, Trew, Bazzo, West, Baker

Bulldogs: Lobb, English, Naughton

There's something a bit odd going on with his clients.

Bolded for ones that have moved at least once in their career already. Incredible that WC have had no one move given he seems to have a high strike rate...

 

[Madas]

I’m guessing the club are 100% positive Henry is gone then.
We don’t really have the list spots available to get Sharp if Henry stays.
Not that this is of any great surprise, you’d think Henry would have announced by now if he was staying.


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In hindsight it’s seems like it was well played by Freo to hold off on Sharp next year whilst in the back of their minds assuming Henry would leave

Sharps value has gone down whilst Henrys has gone up
Sharp should be absolutely chomping at the bit for same game time so should come out firing
I’m a bit excited but also concerned as to why on earth he wasn’t getting a game at GC ?

 

[s_wd6]

Bolded for ones that have moved at least once in their career already. Incredible that WC have had no one move given he seems to have a high strike rate...

Do we have anyone else to compare it to? Any other player agents with a list of all their players? Will be interesting to see what the normal rate is.

 

[MadMundy]

So Henry may stay huh? Interesting. You'd hope he knows better than to listen to the lies Young is feeding him.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Bolded for ones that have moved at least once in their career already. Incredible that WC have had no one move given he seems to have a high strike rate...

Should also add Darcy Cameron to the list of bolded.

And there's rumours of Henry and Fisher on the move already this off season. Rumours of Ryan earlier this season going over east.

What I find really odd is the amount of WA based players getting traded to Victorian teams.

 

[E Shed]

Reckon it’s crazy if we don’t keep Hamling around at least another year. He’s such a pro. Almost never makes a mistake & just gets the job done, no frills. I like the look of our side with Cox up the ground & Hamling back.
He is best 22 for mine.

Play Cox as a forward & Jackson as a ruck rover old school. Brayshaw out to a wing. Chapman/Stanley on the other side. Nod as an inside mid.

We look so much better with Serong surrounded by big bodies like Young & Jackson. Nod fits the description too.
Even Treacy adds a real contest around the ball & he’s smart.

 

[E Shed]

Oh and Sharp is of no interest to me at least.
Just a nothing player.

 

[Swiggy]

Oh and Sharp is of no interest to me at least.
Just a nothing player.

Well think he’s of interest to the Freo recruiting staff and they are the ones that matter

 

[King Tenz]

Oh and Sharp is of no interest to me at least.
Just a nothing player.

Yeah. Not best 22 at his current club, not sure why we'd still be so hot for him.

 

[Swiggy]

Yeah. Not best 22 at his current club, not sure why we'd still be so hot for him.

Walls has like him since his draft year.

 

[freodog]

Walls has like him since his draft year.

I remember they had him down the club in the final days of the draft. I think they were seriously considering him depending how the draft went and when a bid would come on Henry.

Wouldn't West Coast be into him? They could get him in the PSD for free.