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List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread

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Mod notice after Mr Bob did a lot of annoying work in moving days of posts out of here. As we are heading into offseason, this thread is for 2023 list management only. Getting upset on previous trades can be taken to the vent thread. Lets keep this thread on track in the part of the year it's actually relevant
 
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We're going to need a tall forward ready to be at least depth in 2025. Taberner and Corbett should be gone by then. Can't expect much from Keuk. Jackson, Amiss, and Treacy are likely to be in the 22 but if one of them gets injured and we want to keep the same structure then we can only bring in a ruck like Knoble or Reidy.
 

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If a future third is on the table for Henry we should definitely walk him to the psd.

future third is nothing and Colon can sweat on his player going somewhere he doesn’t want to go…
They’ll get more than a F3. Of course the saints first offer will be a low ball.
 
We're going to need a tall forward ready to be at least depth in 2025. Taberner and Corbett should be gone by then. Can't expect much from Keuk. Jackson, Amiss, and Treacy are likely to be in the 22 but if one of them gets injured and we want to keep the same structure then we can only bring in a ruck like Knoble or Reidy.
Would love to draft luker kentfield with a late pick. Still growing showed enough at league level to say he’s good enough
 
We're going to need a tall forward ready to be at least depth in 2025. Taberner and Corbett should be gone by then. Can't expect much from Keuk. Jackson, Amiss, and Treacy are likely to be in the 22 but if one of them gets injured and we want to keep the same structure then we can only bring in a ruck like Knoble or Reidy.
We will, but it won't be someone like Lord I wouldn't think. Some state league battler or a draftee from next year.
If a future third is on the table for Henry we should definitely walk him to the psd.

future third is nothing and Colon can sweat on his player going somewhere he doesn’t want to go…
If they are starting at F3, we're definitely getting at least a second.
 
What do you honestly think he’s worth? Hardly played till after the bye… out of contract? F2 is probably about right. But why would the saints start negotiations with that?
I still think he is worth Pick 20. Especially in this terrible draft. A future Second you would expect to be likely 30-35 next year. Its gross under's and Henry would be no chance to get to Saints via PSD.
 
What do you honestly think he’s worth? Hardly played till after the bye… out of contract? F2 is probably about right. But why would the saints start negotiations with that?
Where would you have to pick in this draft or next to be confident you'd get a better player? I don't know the answer to that but I'm sure the recruiters have an idea and I am also sure it would be far closer to 13 than it is 45.
 

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I still think he is worth Pick 20. Especially in this terrible draft. A future Second you would expect to be likely 30-35 next year. Its gross under's and Henry would be no chance to get to Saints via PSD.
If freo get any kind of pick before 30, I they should take it and run.

He’s played 5 good games of footy.

Didn’t finish top 10 in the BNF don’t think freo could ask for anything more then a pick 30 plus
 
I'm not convinced we will get much for Henry. We have shown a weak backbone in the Jackson and Acres trades. We would still be considered a joke and pushover over east, especially with some old VFL fossil like SOS as list manager.
 
If freo get any kind of pick before 30, I they should take it and run.

He’s played 5 good games of footy.

Didn’t finish top 10 in the BNF don’t think freo could ask for anything more then a pick 30 plus
I get that but in this draft where do you think he would actually go? We have all heard that it sounds like a terrible draft so my guess would be he would be picked top 20 based on what he has shown on the field and in development this year. I would accept the Future Second if we actually have someone in mind to trade in next year like Logan McDonald.
 
I'm not convinced we will get much for Henry. We have shown a weak backbone in the Jackson and Acres trades. We would still be considered a joke and pushover over east, especially with some old VFL fossil like SOS as list manager.
This is the test case. We haven't backed ourselves into a corner like Acres and don't have the PSD threat of the Eagles like Jackson. Plus I feel Jackson wouldn't have wanted us to bone the Dees.

There is no reason not to get a good deal for this one, so if we don't, I fully endorse slandering Bell and Walls (or whomever is responsible).
 
This is the test case. We haven't backed ourselves into a corner like Acres and don't have the PSD threat of the Eagles like Jackson. Plus I feel Jackson wouldn't have wanted us to bone the Dees.

There is no reason not to get a good deal for this one, so if we don't, I fully endorse slandering Bell and Walls (or whomever is responsible).
Agreed. We barely made a contract offer to Acres for whatever reason. Whereas we had a decent offer on the table for Henry. Very different. Closer to the Logue situation except Logue worth a little more than Henry but North had genuine PSD threat in play.

You could argue from my perspective that 15-20 is pipe dream stuff and many of us here think that is the going rate. It sits somewhere in between but we genuinely don’t have an interest in picks 30 plus.
 

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The F3 isn't even something that has been tabled. While it smacks as a bit of a softening gambit, it's done via the press so it's grist for the rumor mill hububb and hoping to add weight to the Sts side of things. The reaction from some of the pundits on Trade Radio is that it's a ridiculous offer, so it might sway things the other way.

It's still up to Young to drive this I reckon. It's pretty insulting to Henry, from a club that is saying they supposedly value him.
 
Agreed. We barely made a contract offer to Acres for whatever reason. Whereas we had a decent offer on the table for Henry. Very different. Closer to the Logue situation except Logue worth a little more than Henry but North had genuine PSD threat in play.

You could argue from my perspective that 15-20 is pipe dream stuff and many of us here think that is the going rate. It sits somewhere in between but we genuinely don’t have an interest in picks 30 plus.
probably don’t have any interest in a pick 30 plus. But that’s all freo might get. F2 could be very handy next year. Clubs like Brisbane will need plenty of points.
 
If a future third is on the table for Henry we should definitely walk him to the psd.

future third is nothing and Colon can sweat on his player going somewhere he doesn’t want to go…

Yep, agreed. I'd take a future 2nd, but anything less it's better for us to just hold the line and pretend to shop him around.

It's time to stand up to Young and his bullshit.
 
Agreed. We barely made a contract offer to Acres for whatever reason. Whereas we had a decent offer on the table for Henry. Very different. Closer to the Logue situation except Logue worth a little more than Henry but North had genuine PSD threat in play.

You could argue from my perspective that 15-20 is pipe dream stuff and many of us here think that is the going rate. It sits somewhere in between but we genuinely don’t have an interest in picks 30 plus.
Logue is actually a very good comparison. Both picked at the same spot in the draft, Logue traded after 5 years, Henry has been in the system 4 years.

Logue - 64 Games (44 Games at the end of 4th year)
Henry - 43 Games (16 games in 2023)

Henry has shown enough in the back half of this year to be valuable. Logue was out of contract and going to the Wooden Spooners so zero leverage. Henry can't get to the Saints through the PSD as Freo could take him so we have a small piece of leverage.

I recon a similar pick to Logue in a Future pick is fair. In this years draft it could be pick 25, F3 is worthless these days unless you aree chasing points.
 
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