Training 2023 Mens Preseason Thread

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citizen-erased said:
And offers a bit more HF compared to the other two.
Perkins as a forward is a no from me. Rest him there, but prime role should be onball.
Setterfield has shown he has one trick. Fortunately we need him for that, so no surprise.

I'd be keen to see a glimpse of the future with a couple of rotations that sees draper tapping down to Hobbs, perkins and Caldwell, with Duz and Martin on the wings.
Suspect setterfield, merrett, parish and shiel will be the top 4 mids for us though.
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I think Perkins can be DeGoey style minus the dickhead factor. Very damaging forward or the middle. I want to see how he adapts to the midfield as so far what I have watched has been just average compared to what he has done forward which has had some X factor about it. He has the scope to improve his midfield craft for sure.
 
Keystone agony said:
Based off photos only of todays match sim it appears Setterfield and Perkins over Hobbs for the onball time at this stage it appears

Definitly leaves him a little vunerable for round 1 i feel
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Seems like caldwell has been the one whose been pushed out to become a forward, strange after he found his feet in the 2nd half of the year as a mid.
 
andleanback said:
Seems like caldwell has been the one whose been pushed out to become a forward, strange after he found his feet in the 2nd half of the year as a mid.
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I think thats partially due to being non contact and also hes quite a good half fwd i like him there. As ive said several times before his score involvments are elite considering his stage of development and that hes not played much high half fwd before being a typical onball junior and then having stages on a wing at GWS as his body was light
 

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It would be nice if Perkins keeps on keeping on. His power through core means we may be able to stop messing around with Stringer and Tippa in the middle (2nd half of 2021). I still like the idea of giving them both a few centre bounces a game and a 5 min run in the middle to give them a chance to get their hands on the ball, but Setterfield and Perkins feeding to Merrett and Parish sounds good to me. Hobbs is depth at worst so will certainly play 10+ games as injuries occur. Caldwell is obviously going to be defensively minded. It is becoming a nice engine room supported by quality on the wings.
 
I'm all for Setterfield playing from round 1 if his job is to be a defensive and physical presence on ball.

Increased opportunities on ball for Hobbs, Caldwell and even Perkins all sounds good.

But what gives? I suppose McGrath is one.

But that's 7 specialist midfielders with Parish, Merrett and Shiel.

Then we've got to fit in some small forwards. Snelling and Menzie played in teams in 2023 due to injury. Durham, Langford and Martin would seem to be the wingmen.

Tippa is back.

I don't see much changing in terms of personnel or the roles played.
 
From what I saw yesterday at training, I think Hobbs starts the season in the VFL which I do not mind at all. Parish, Merrett, Shiel, Setterfield and Martin were all very very good yesterday, plus there is Caldwell and Perkins to rotate through there. I just can't see Hobbs knocking anyone of them out yet.
 

AFL news: Latest news and notes from Essendon intra-club​

A Bombers midfield star looks in the best condition of his career but has an ex-Blue reject overtaken him in the pecking order? All the intel from Essendon training here.



Essendon has taken no risks with star forwards Jake Stringer and Peter Wright who sat out the club’s intra-club game on Wednesday.
Stringer (back) and Wright (calf) remain on light duties after missing main training last week.
The Bombers are taking a cautious approach with the pair in the hope the duo will be available for the practice matches in late February and early March.
It has been an interrupted campaign for the marking targets who represent the two most dangerous goal kickers at the club for 2023.

TRACK WATCH​

MARTIN REVELATION
Essendon star forward Nic Martin has emerged as a genuine onball option for new coach Brad Scott after an impressive debut in the centre square on Wednesday.

On a day when Zach Merrett dominated and Alwyn Davey Jnr firmed for a Round 1 berth, Martin showed he was ready to add another dimension to his game this season after sparkling in the clinches in the second half of an intra-club game.

Martin enjoyed an outstanding season on a forward flank and wing for the Bombers last year to kick 19 majors including a bag of five on debut against Geelong.

But the bargain supplemental selection period pick-up made a strong statement that he could yet become a damaging onballer, giving new coach Scott another inside midfield option in 2023.

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Martin showed composure evading tackles in traffic, clean hands and pushed hard forward to create headaches for the opposition.
He only attended three centre bounces for the year in 2022, but Scott has already shown he is ready to change things up at Tullamarine.
The move could be part of a midfield revamp at Essendon in the new season with new recruit Will Setterfield was also excellent playing on the same side as Merrett and Darcy Parish in the ‘A’ side.

Setterfield was played on a wing at Carlton but could be set for a Will Brodie-style boom year at Essendon, helping give the Bombers extra defensive coverage at the stoppage after ranking 13th for defending clearances last year, according to Champion Data.

Importantly, Martin and Setterfield, who was traded from Carlton in exchange for a fourth-round draft pick, will give Essendon some extra size in the centre square, with Jye Caldwell and Jake Stringer slated to play forward, and Nik Cox down back.
Setterfield is on track to play Hawthorn in Round 1, while superstar midfielder Merrett has been the stand-out of the summer for Essendon this preseason.

Nic Martin impressed in a new role. Picture: Michael Klein

Nic Martin impressed in a new role. Picture: Michael Klein
Zach Merrett had been a standout. Picture: Michael Klein

Zach Merrett had been a standout. Picture: Michael Klein

BIG BALDWIN
Fringe forward Kaine Baldwin has produced one of the most encouraging performances of his time at Essendon to put his hand up for Round 1 consideration.

Without Peter Wright, Sam Weideman or Stringer on Wednesday, Baldwin took his opportunity to show Scott he can provide a strong aerial contest.
Baldwin was clearly the most threatening key forward and took a swathe of marks including a brilliant contested grab flying three back in the second term.

It is a make-or-break year for the big man who was considered one of the best junior talents in the country before he suffered two knee reconstructions.
Stringer (back) trained away from the main group and ran more than 10km as part of a plan to rejoin teammates next week.

Wright (calf) was also on a modified program while Weideman (quad) ran laps alongside Cox.
Alwyn Davey during the Bombers’ intra club Picture: Michael Klein

Alwyn Davey during the Bombers’ intra club Picture: Michael Klein

BOLTER

Father-son pick-up Alwyn Davey Jnr already looks like he has one of the most lethal kicks in the team.
The small forward landed a couple of beautifully-weighted passes on his teammates’ chests heading inside-50m to bolster his claims for an early game this season.

The smooth-moving goalkicker has shown he has special talent in his first season and could help fill a key void deep in attack.
But the Bombers are aware the eye-catching small forward has a lot of work to do to build his fitness base and body strength to deal with the regular rigours of the AFL.
Midfielder-forward Ben Hobbs came off in the second term after spending some time in the middle alongside Arche Perkins.

Sam Draper celebrates a goal. Picture: Michael Klein

Sam Draper celebrates a goal. Picture: Michael Klein

HIGHLIGHT REEL
Ruckman Sam Draper spent a big chunk of the game in a key forward role but kicked an electric running goal from the centre bounce late.
Defenders Mason Redman and Jordan Ridley were excellent on Wednesday, helping the team overcome a scrappy start.

Dylan Shiel, who looks in the best physical condition of his career, was also prominent after starting the game in the ‘B’ team’s onball setup.
 
Comment from my training guy was the skill level was as good as he could remember and he has been watching us train for over 20 years.
Good to hear as Saturday they looked a bit plain skill wise but it was very windy and several showers passed over during training.
 

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ghostdog said:
Cheers for the training report! The paragraph on Parish's defensive work offers an interesting insight. Hopefully it translates to match sim this week.

Did you happen to watch Bryan's work?
...or Duz?
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Sorry it is a bit late. Bryan did not do the full training.
Was not really following all of what Duz was doing (which is code for not paying enough attention)
 
ant555 said:
Sorry it is a bit late. Bryan did not do the full training.
Was not really following all of what Duz was doing (which is code for not paying enough attention)
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Harrison Jones watch please.
 
Chambo said:
From what I saw yesterday at training, I think Hobbs starts the season in the VFL which I do not mind at all. Parish, Merrett, Shiel, Setterfield and Martin were all very very good yesterday, plus there is Caldwell and Perkins to rotate through there. I just can't see Hobbs knocking anyone of them out yet.
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Depends some of those guys are better elsewhere than what Hobbs is
 
ant555 said:
Stringer ran more than 10km . Surely not :p
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I know this is sarcastic/tongue in cheek.

But I honestly don't know how 10kms is lauded in the media.

An everyday person with only a moderate level of fitness could shuffle 10kms in an hour.

So in a training session he did an hour of running at most. I am impressed.
 
nonamehack said:
I know this is sarcastic/tongue in cheek.

But I honestly don't know how 10kms is lauded in the media.

An everyday person with only a moderate level of fitness could shuffle 10kms in an hour.

So in a training session he did an hour of running at most. I am impressed.
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Who lauded it?

Its good to see these comments. I was going to say it would be an indication of him returning to the group soon before reading thats what is said

Alot of the time there looking for the players to be covering that 8+km targets in certain sessions over preseason. Basically to reflect match play
 
ant555 said:
I think Perkins can be DeGoey style minus the dickhead factor. Very damaging forward or the middle. I want to see how he adapts to the midfield as so far what I have watched has been just average compared to what he has done forward which has had some X factor about it. He has the scope to improve his midfield craft for sure.
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Agree on the proving himself in the midfield, but im less sold on him as a forward. Goes very long patches without doing much. Probably not helped playing for us.

Would rather we're rolling with wright, weid, jones, stringer, tippa, davey and guelf.
 
citizen-erased said:
Agree on the proving himself in the midfield, but im less sold on him as a forward. Goes very long patches without doing much. Probably not helped playing for us.

Would rather we're rolling with wright, weid, jones, stringer, tippa, davey and guelf.
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Thats fine but then you have 8 spots for

Zerrett
Parish
Shiel
Setterfield
Caldwell
Perkins
Hobbs
Martin
Langford
Durham
Heppell
Draper

So which 4 are missing from your side?
 
Martin showing he can play in the guts is excellent, but I still want the hard-running dudes who can take a mark to rotate between half-forward and the wing. I'm thinking Martin, Langford and Durham rotating between the wing and half forward. Also, Davey plays half-forward as an extra zippy deliverer of well-weighted passes .. and when he has his time on the bench, Merrett and Parish rotate through there.

Langford and Martin add extra size, but Perkins and Setterfield are enough size at centre bounce. Martin and Langford can add that size to stoppages on their wing.

ant555 said:
Stringer ran more than 10km . Surely not :p
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There wasn't a time given though. Was it over 2 hours?
 
fishardansin said:
Martin showing he can play in the guts is excellent, but I still want the hard-running dudes who can take a mark to rotate between half-forward and the wing. I'm thinking Martin, Langford and Durham rotating between the wing and half forward. Also, Davey plays half-forward as an extra zippy deliverer of well-weighted passes .. and when he has his time on the bench, Merrett and Parish rotate through there.

Langford and Martin add extra size, but Perkins and Setterfield are enough size at centre bounce. Martin and Langford can add that size to stoppages on their wing.



There wasn't a time given though. Was it over 2 hours?
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When playing 2 teams there is really room for 6-8 guys to atleast go through the middle

They didnt want Caldwell in there yet. The rest had a go and Snelling/Martin/Lang added to make up that group of 4 for each side at times

Not saying they wont consider him at all in there. He had some time last year in there. Just dont expect that above as a direction of change necessarily
 
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