Thanks gents, that sounds about right. Though l thought he was an UFA?
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Nope he’s RFA first year hitting free agency
Arguably our most important player, he’ll get a big contract and deservedly so.
Four West Australians will be part of the 2023 AFL Academy induction camp in Melbourne this weekend.
Daniel Curtin (Claremont), Mitchell Edwards (Peel Thunder),Riley Hardeman (Swan Districts), and Koltyn Tholstrup (Subiaco), have been invited to the Academy, which features a selection of the most talented 17-year-old footballers across the country.
The 30 players selected in this year's Academy program will be eligible in the 2023 AFL Draft.
Players will participate in high performance and personal development programs throughout the 2023 season. Program content will be delivered through a mixture of face-to-face and online modules.
The program has been established to best prepare players for entry into elite football programs.
This week’s induction camp will see players engage in a range of football and education sessions.
The camp will begin with a training session at The Hangar, the home of Essendon Football Club, from midday on Friday, December 16.
This will be followed by an education session and team-bonding activity.
Daniel Curtin (Claremont), Mitchell Edwards (Peel Thunder),Riley Hardeman (Swan Districts), and Koltyn Tholstrup (Subiaco), have been invited to the Academy, which features a selection of the most talented 17-year-old footballers across the country.
The 30 players selected in this year's Academy program will be eligible in the 2023 AFL Draft.
Players will participate in high performance and personal development programs throughout the 2023 season. Program content will be delivered through a mixture of face-to-face and online modules.
The program has been established to best prepare players for entry into elite football programs.
This week’s induction camp will see players engage in a range of football and education sessions.
The camp will begin with a training session at The Hangar, the home of Essendon Football Club, from midday on Friday, December 16.
This will be followed by an education session and team-bonding activity.
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I'd trade Ben McKay for Harry McKay. I think that's about it actually, can't think of anyone else.
Gonna take me a while to recover from this epic burn.
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Really hope that Caddy ends up being 195+. He would compliment our forward line perfectly with his strong hands and physicality.
Daniel Curtin would also be perfect to set at CHB for the next 15 years. We wouldn’t have to rush him either with McKay & Logue down there.
This is my dream for the draft. We'd have the perfect future spine and uf comben comes on its a bonus
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l am beginning to think that North will get all players who contracts are about to expire , out of the way first and then see what is left in the kitty to offer Ben and l hope they dont skimp on the first offer like they have done in the past...seeing as they have just signed LDU till 2025..
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That would be a terrible tactic - doing all the other contracts first. All those blokes who are OOC end of 23 will either earn themselves a new moderate contract on the back of a good season, or they'll be chopped. None of them are getting poached. Give McKay what he is owed and the others will fall into place.
Our last 15 drafts (with Goldy added at the top because he was 16 drafts ago). * = still on the senior list
Players traded in or supplemental drafts (e.g. Edwards) not included.
Players traded in or supplemental drafts (e.g. Edwards) not included.
Player | Year | Position | Games | Delist/trade/retire |
* Todd Goldstein | 2007 | 37 | 295 | - |
* Jack Ziebell | 2008 | 9 | 258 | - |
Sam Wright | 2008 | 27 | 136 | 2019 |
Liam Anthony | 2008 | 43 | 58 | 2014 |
Nathan O'Keefe | 2008 | 59 | 2 | 2010 |
Warren Benjamin | 2008 | 71 | - | 2010 |
Marcus White | 2008 | R9 | 2 | 2011 |
Luke Delany | 2008 | R25 | 26 | 2013 |
Ben Speight | 2008 | R40 | 10 | 2012 |
Alan Obst | 2008 | R54 | 5 | 2009 |
Conor Meredith | 2008 | R68 | - | 2010 |
* Ben Cunnington | 2009 | 5 | 229 | - |
Ryan Bastinac | 2009 | 21 | 121 | 2015 |
Aaron Black | 2009 | 25 | 50 | 2015 |
Jamie MacMillan | 2009 | 37 | 157 | 2020 |
Ayden Kennedy | 2009 | 41 | - | 2013 |
Brayden Norris | 2009 | 53 | - | 2010 |
Majak Daw | 2009 | R9 | 50 | 2015 |
Matthew Scott | 2009 | R25 | - | 2010 |
Shaun Atley | 2010 | 17 | 234 | 2021 |
Keiran Harper | 2010 | 27 | 40 | 2014 |
Cameron Delaney | 2010 | 69 | 6 | 2013 |
Ben Mabon | 2010 | 71 | - | 2013 |
Cameron Pedersen | 2010 | R17 | 16 | 2012 |
Aaron Mullett | 2010 | R34 | 85 | 2017 |
Brad McKenzie | 2011 | 18 | 14 | 2016 |
Tom Curran | 2011 | 40 | - | 2014 |
Max Warren | 2011 | R10 | 1 | 2014 |
Brad Mangan | 2011 | R28 | - | 2012 |
Malcom Lynch | 2011 | R46 | - | 2012 |
Sam Gibson | 2011 | R63 | 130 | 2017 |
Gavin Urquhart | 2011 | R77 | - | 2012 |
Taylor Garner | 2012 | 15 | 49 | 2021 |
Ben Jacobs | 2012 | 37 | 64 | 2020 |
Mason Wood | 2012 | 43 | 65 | 2020 |
Mitchell Wilkins | 2012 | 47 | - | 2013 |
Dan Currie | 2012 | 56 | 4 | 2015 |
Taylor Hine | 2012 | 61 | 14 | 2014 |
Tim McGenniss | 2012 | R10 | - | 2013 |
Ben Speight | 2012 | R24 | - | 2013 |
Cameron Richardson | 2012 | R34 | - | 2013 |
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Player | Year | Position | Games | Delist/trade/retire |
* Luke McDonald | 2013 | 8 | 159 | - |
Trent Dumont | 2013 | 30 | 113 | 2021 |
Ben Brown | 2013 | 47 | 130 | 2020 |
Joel Tippett | 2013 | R8 | 9 | 2015 |
* Kayne Turner | 2013 | R25 | 111 | - |
Sam Durdin | 2014 | 16 | 21 | 2020 |
Daniel Nielson | 2014 | 25 | 7 | 2018 |
Ed Vickers-Willis | 2014 | 36 | 21 | 2020 |
Braydon Preuss | 2014 | R15 | 8 | 2018 |
Will Fordham | 2014 | R33 | - | 2017 |
Max Warren | 2014 | R50 | - | 2015 |
Robbie Nahas | 2014 | R63 | 34 | 2016 |
* Ben McKay | 2015 | 21 | 52 | - |
Ryan Clarke | 2015 | 31 | 40 | 2018 |
Mitch Hibberd | 2015 | 33 | 4 | 2018 |
Corey Wagner | 2015 | 43 | 8 | 2017 |
Dec Mountford | 2015 | 60 | 12 | 2018 |
Farren Ray | 2015 | R15 | 4 | 2017 |
Majak Daw | 2015 | R33 | 50 | - |
* Jy Simpkin | 2016 | 12 | 116 | - |
Dec Watson | 2016 | 34 | - | 2019 |
Josh Williams | 2016 | 36 | 2 | 2018 |
* Nick Larkey | 2016 | 73 | 71 | - |
* Cam Zurhaar | 2016 | R11 | 83 | - |
Oscar Junker | 2016 | R28 | - | 2018 |
Matt Taylor | 2016 | R43 | - | 2017 |
* Luke Davies-Uniacke | 2017 | 4 | 71 | - |
Will Walker | 2017 | 23 | 4 | - |
Kyron Hayden | 2017 | 62 | 17 | - |
* Tristan Xerri | 2017 | 72 | 24 | - |
Billy Hartung | 2017 | 77 | 13 | 2018 |
Tom Murphy | 2017 | R4 | 6 | 2020 |
Gordon Narrier | 2017 | R20 | - | 2018 |
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Player | Year | Position | Games | Delist/trade/retire |
* Tarryn Thomas | 2018 | 8 | 57 | - |
* Curtis Taylor | 2018 | 46 | 52 | - |
* Bailey Scott | 2018 | 49 | 55 | - |
Joel Crocker | 2018 | 69 | - | 2020 |
Tom McKenzie | 2018 | R10 | - | 2020 |
Kyron Hayden | 2018 | R27 (re) | 17 | 2022 |
Tom Wilkinson | 2018 | 0 | - | 2019 |
* Charlie Comben | 2019 | 31 | 2 | - |
* Jack Mahoney | 2019 | 34 | 42 | - |
* Flynn Perez | 2019 | 35 | 19 | - |
* Will Philips | 2020 | 3 | 16 | - |
* Tom Powell | 2020 | 13 | 31 | - |
* Charlie Lazzaro | 2020 | 36 | 24 | - |
* Phoenix Spicer | 2020 | 42 | 6 | - |
* Eddie Ford | 2020 | 56 | 8 | - |
Patrick Walker | 2020 | R2 | - | 2022 |
Connor Menadue | 2020 | R18 | 7 | 2021 |
Jason Horne-Francis | 2021 | 1 | 17 | 2022 |
* Josh Goater | 2021 | 22 | 1 | - |
* Paul Curtis | 2021 | 35 | 10 | - |
* Miller Bergman | 2021 | 38 | 1 | - |
* Jackson Archer | 2021 | 59 | 3 | - |
* Harry Sheezel | 2022 | 2 | - | - |
* George Wardlaw | 2022 | 3 | - | - |
* Brayden George | 2022 | 26 | - | - |
* Cooper Harvey | 2022 | 56 | - | - |
* Blake Drury | 2022 | R1 | - | - |
* Hamish Free | 2022 | R19 | - | - |
* Daniel Howe | 2022 | R33 | - | - |
* Kayne Turner | 2022 | R39 | 111 | - |
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Pick 3-6 (ours) - Lachie Ash from GWS (56 games already, OOC this year, extremely durable and will play the rebounding back for the next 12 years). Move The Goat into a full-time midfielder.
Pick 7-12 (PA) - Daniel Curtin, Archer Reid or Nick Watson
Pick 7-12 (PA) - Daniel Curtin, Archer Reid or Nick Watson
That’s paying overs for Ash. He hasn’t shown anywhere near enough to justify that sort of draft capital.
God damn there are a lot of stinkers in that bunch. We have torched so many picks between 20-40 over the years.
2014-15-16-17 really ruined our list.
2014 - Durdin (16) Neilson (25) EVW (36)
2015 - Clarke (31), Hibberd (33) Wagner (43)
2016 - Watson (34), Williams (36)
2017 - Walker (23)
Picks Torched for no return across 4 seasons: 16, 23, 25, 31, 34, 36, 36, 43.
There should’ve been at least 1-2 200 game players in that lot.
Absolutely abysmal drafting, made even worse when you look at who was available at some of those picks.
You'd think that if you had a monkey pressing random buttons to select the picks then they would have done a better job.
Its almost impressively bad.
Still a bit to play out with 2019 & 2020
too. At this stage none of Mahony, Comben, Perez or Lazzaro are sure bets to be long term players.
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Yeah I agree somewhat, on the surface it looks like that, but the reality is that his trajectory is nearly identical to LDU, Rozee, De Goey, Cerra, & Gaff.
Maybe the PA death-ride pick would make more sense to us (~8 to 12) but Ash would have to want out and specifically nominate us. Even then GWS would probably want a swap of future 2nd & 3rds..
He’s got so much upside, 56 games of experience already, quick, smart, durable, leadership and silky skills. He’s already had a 35 touch game in his second season and I reckon he would thrive under Clarko.
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I’m very confident Comben will have a 150+ game career. He’s got the required skill set to thrive as a KPF.
The other three have legitimate question marks.
Perez due to his knee, and the other two due to a lack of discernible elite traits.
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