Buddy wasn't average. Was he prime Buddy, no. Was he still one of the best KPFs in the league, yes.
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We also won a flag in 2012 where our leading goalkicker was Jetta, 14th in the league. Goodes was next, outside the top 20.
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I think it is hard to predict because it can be quite tight at the top.
Last season there was one win between 2nd and 6th. Melbourne was 2nd with 64 points. And Brisbane was 6th with 60 points.
Last season there was one win between 2nd and 6th. Melbourne was 2nd with 64 points. And Brisbane was 6th with 60 points.
If only we'd had a player last year who kicked 20 something behinds in a row, I'd be feeling much more confident.
Damn.
That’s cold.
Mhm.
Rookie mistake.
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Your a hard task master, he was only 13 goals off the Coleman medallist. At his age is alot better then average, in my book that's a great return.
Heeney might pass him as our leading goalkicker, but Reid certainly won't.
Fair points. There's no doubting he is an all-time great. I hope his marking improves in likely his last season as he relies less on the athleticism.
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I'll be disappointed if we finish bottom half of the 8 (unless we go on to make a prelim anyway). I'll be unpleasantly surprised if we don't play finals.
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I agree. Top 4 is a minimum pass mark based upon last season's results. I want a ruthless Sydney team. I think this list has the capability to become ruthless. It has the talent. It has shown it can get to a grand final. It has shown it can play and win epic games against quality opposition(eg Richmond and Geelong games). Sydney, if you look at the age and games experience of the majority of the best 22, has not hit it's peak yet. Adding a touch of hardness, and reducing the amount of times we give up multiple goals will hopefully improve our consistency. No more drop offs in games.
Sydney will get better in the next few years. Definitely. Hopefully get top 4 and go one better this year. It is a tough competition to win let alone make top 4. I think the internal rate of improvement is massive in a lot of players including Gulden, Warner, Rowbottom, McDonald, McCartins, Stephens, McInerney especially let alone others.
Easy to say. harder to do.
After making a grand final unexpectedly, with a relatively young team compared to those around us, I'd be pretty disappointed if we don't make Top 4 and push again. And I'm usually one of the more pessimistic ones on here. It'll depend on the likes of Buddy, Rampe, one of the rucks, having decent years. They don't need to be in prime form, but good enough. Improvement from Logan, Buddy still kicking around 35-40, continued improvement from our younger mids, a mix of mids and smaller types kicking goals, being competitive in the ruck, Rampe (or Gould) still being able to take a good forward, all will be factors, but achievable.
Look at this list of 20-25 year olds. None of them should have hit their peaks, some of them won't for years. All of them should be even better in 2023, than what they've shown before. Maybe there's question marks on whether Wicks can get back to form, or whether McAndrew, Gould can perform at the level, though there's promising signs. Even the likes of Sheather were exciting when fit. Haven't even really seen what Sheldrick, Warner jnr, Magor (the draftee that excites me most), Konstanty will do.
Look at this list of 20-25 year olds. None of them should have hit their peaks, some of them won't for years. All of them should be even better in 2023, than what they've shown before. Maybe there's question marks on whether Wicks can get back to form, or whether McAndrew, Gould can perform at the level, though there's promising signs. Even the likes of Sheather were exciting when fit. Haven't even really seen what Sheldrick, Warner jnr, Magor (the draftee that excites me most), Konstanty will do.
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Oh my comment was me being positive lol. Evidently that didn't come through to everyone.
History shows that the year post-GF drubbing can be a rough one for teams and they don't play finals. If we can defy that and make top 8, even if it's in the bottom half of the eight, then I think that's a pretty good result. Anything more and I think it'd be a very good result.
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Tbf, we made top 4 again the year after a grand final drubbing.
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No i highly doubt Reid will become our number one goal kicker, i fully expect alot of players to go past him this year purely on the fact I don't expect him to play as many games as he did last year and for team balance the times he does he isn't that sole focus.
Would LOVE if we could get a fwd line of Heeney, Hayward, Papley and Logan all up around the 40 mark at the end of the year and have a bunch of 20 goal mids like Warner, Parker already are especially if Errol ups his time at cbas but still hitting the scoreboard as usual. Then have guys like Mills & Rowbottom & Stephens jump from 10, 8 and 4 respectively and then we are talking!!
We have one of the hardest draws in 2023 it does effect things considerably where you finish at the end of 23 rounds.
Our double ups are teams that consistently give us trouble and have improved in the off season.
Fremantle, Geelong, Gold Coast, GWS, Melbourne, Richmond
Thats some of the toughest double ups in terms of matchups we can have.
Our double ups are teams that consistently give us trouble and have improved in the off season.
Fremantle, Geelong, Gold Coast, GWS, Melbourne, Richmond
Thats some of the toughest double ups in terms of matchups we can have.
We did that team of course was vastly more experienced than the 2022 one.
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Way too much pessimism in this thread. Top 4 should be the expectation on everyone's mind. * history and * statistics. We're young and mentally tough. Also we have this seasons Brownlow medalist on the list which is a huge boost
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That's exactly what I thought you meant. I just don't feel as positive about it as you. Making finals is a bare pass mark. I expect more. I feel like the competition is definitely hot but we have every reason to demand that we finish top 4 and dream of a flag.
We beat the Dees 3 times, GWS twice, beat Freo, Tigers, Cats once.
If we hadn't lost to Gold Coast, it'd have been 9-1 against these teams in 2022.
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