Training 2023 Preseason + training discussion

[Dale147]

Training notes

 

[Mags98]

Training notes

christ Liam Ryan really? what a rag

 

[Bigger]

Liam Henry pictured with Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

27

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

written on it. Couldn't really get more wrong. Wrong in a factual sense. Wrong in a culturally insensitive sense. Wrong in a lazy, stupid, pos sense.

 

[Wobbly Punt]

Just swung past the ARC on the way back to the office. Not much going on outside. What was going on does have a little interest though.

Walters was doing straight line run throughs of about 50m at about 50% pace. Looked comfortable in his gait so the idea he might be Rd 1 ready looks real. Achilles suck though as Longmuir said in his presser. He was striding out well though so that's something.

Also working with the small rehab crew were Freddy and Wagner. When I was there they were running around doing low intensity leading and 30m kick to kick and both were moving well in that. Freddy was kicking only off his left which indicates they're not ready to test the quad too much but he wasn't limping and went well above 50% effort a few times when leading to Wagner's kicks.

Wagner was also moving freely and thumping some of his passes to Freddy. Can't be far away. He was the most aggressive mover of the 3. He was turning, pivoting and kicking all very freely and, to me, he looked uninjured.

Finally, Tabs was doing 1 on 1 work with the coaches in the sandbank goal square. 1 coach padded up, the other kicked to the "contest". Looked like they were concentrating on getting his marking hands up to scratch again as he pushing off his man and getting to the ball and then resisting the contact to take the mark. He then went to the jumping pad (not Nic Nat who's injured again) and went to hanger practise. His hands aren't close to match ready yet and he dropped too many you'd expect him to take but we know he has the good mitts so I don't think its an issue, especially seeing he is clearly working towards getting them there.

1 small thing, not from this session but from others, they do a lot of drills where the ball gets kicked to a to a big target at HF for wing etc and that big is asked to deliberately drop the mark to provide crumbing. I know they do it so the mids can practise reading the bounce etc and the big can work on following up and it is about clearing the ball from a spilled contest. However, I just don't like the idea of practising failing at a skill and being asked to drop the mark. Maybe its just me.

 

[Sully90]

1 small thing, not from this session but from others, they do a lot of drills where the ball gets kicked to a to a big target at HF for wing etc and that big is asked to deliberately drop the mark to provide crumbing. I know they do it so the mids can practise reading the bounce etc and the big can work on following up and it is about clearing the ball from a spilled contest. However, I just don't like the idea of practising failing at a skill and being asked to drop the mark. Maybe its just me.

Nah it's smart. Instead of mastering the correct way to do it, you master the wrong way, then on game day just do the opposite. Simples.

 

[arsesmart]

However, I just don't like the idea of practising failing at a skill and being asked to drop the mark. Maybe its just me.

Does it count as failing when you succeed at doing what you set out to do?

 

[Superkoops]

Just swung past the ARC on the way back to the office. Not much going on outside. What was going on does have a little interest though.

Walters was doing straight line run throughs of about 50m at about 50% pace. Looked comfortable in his gait so the idea he might be Rd 1 ready looks real. Achilles suck though as Longmuir said in his presser. He was striding out well though so that's something.

Also working with the small rehab crew were Freddy and Wagner. When I was there they were running around doing low intensity leading and 30m kick to kick and both were moving well in that. Freddy was kicking only off his left which indicates they're not ready to test the quad too much but he wasn't limping and went well above 50% effort a few times when leading to Wagner's kicks.

Wagner was also moving freely and thumping some of his passes to Freddy. Can't be far away. He was the most aggressive mover of the 3. He was turning, pivoting and kicking all very freely and, to me, he looked uninjured.

Finally, Tabs was doing 1 on 1 work with the coaches in the sandbank goal square. 1 coach padded up, the other kicked to the "contest". Looked like they were concentrating on getting his marking hands up to scratch again as he pushing off his man and getting to the ball and then resisting the contact to take the mark. He then went to the jumping pad (not Nic Nat who's injured again) and went to hanger practise. His hands aren't close to match ready yet and he dropped too many you'd expect him to take but we know he has the good mitts so I don't think its an issue, especially seeing he is clearly working towards getting them there.

1 small thing, not from this session but from others, they do a lot of drills where the ball gets kicked to a to a big target at HF for wing etc and that big is asked to deliberately drop the mark to provide crumbing. I know they do it so the mids can practise reading the bounce etc and the big can work on following up and it is about clearing the ball from a spilled contest. However, I just don't like the idea of practising failing at a skill and being asked to drop the mark. Maybe its just me.

Legend - thanks for answering my query as well on another thread re: Wagner. Sounds like he is close to resuming full training. He’s not in the mix for the early rounds but there is plenty of time for him to be ready off HBF/wing once WAFL season is up and running.

 

[Wobbly Punt]

Does it count as failing when you succeed at doing what you set out to do?

Interesting. We're in the "If a tree falls in the forest and noone is there to hear it..." realm there. I like it. We need to meet up at training one day and discuss it. I'll bring the mushrooms and CBD oil.

 

[Wobbly Punt]

Legend - thanks for answering my query as well on another thread re: Wagner. Sounds like he is close to resuming full training. He’s not in the mix for the early rounds but there is plenty of time for him to be ready off HBF/wing once WAFL season is up and running.

No worries at all SK. I'd be surprised if he's not in the full gear this week or next. No game against Port obviously but he's close I'd reckon. If we stay injury free-ish he might be a good sneaky bet for the Sandover?

 

[NYRB]

Any idea on what sort of crowd we can expect at Freo Oval on a Thursday afternoon for a 4pm match?

Would 8k be a bit unrealistic?

 

[Joao]

Any idea on what sort of crowd we can expect at Freo Oval on a Thursday afternoon for a 4pm match?

Would 8k be a bit unrealistic?

200,000 maybe.

 

[NYRB]

200,000 maybe.

I wasn’t joking around. I’d be sort of interested to know.

 

[mattis117]

Any idea on what sort of crowd we can expect at Freo Oval on a Thursday afternoon for a 4pm match?

Would 8k be a bit unrealistic?

If it were a Saturday afternoon you might get 8k. 4pm on a Thursday I think would be half that. But you never really know!

 

[NYRB]

If it were a Saturday afternoon you might get 8k. 4pm on a Thursday I think would be half that. But you never really know!

Freo fans are pretty parochial. Even if it had been on a Thursday evening at a reasonable hour Eg 7pm, would have got a decent crowd for sure .

 

[Boomer93]

Just wanted to add to that previous discussion on second year key forwards.

Cam McCarthy kicked 35 goals in 20 games in his second year

 

[arsesmart]

Freo fans are pretty parochial. Even if it had been on a Thursday evening at a reasonable hour Eg 7pm, would have got a decent crowd for sure .

The early start gives you a chance to then head into Freo for a meal and maybe a quiet one or four afterwards.

 

[wakojako]

200,000 maybe.

With a million more well on the way?

 

[NYRB]

The early start gives you a chance to then head into Freo for a meal and maybe a quiet one or four afterwards.

I must admit I dont hang around Freo on late evenings that much . I did some work though on the Esplanade on New Years Eve/New Years Day there.

 

[theGav56]

Interesting. We're in the "If a tree falls in the forest and noone is there to hear it..." realm there. I like it. We need to meet up at training one day and discuss it. I'll bring the mushrooms and CBD oil.

...and then sit on an ant nest. Carlos Castaneda style.

 

[Nothing]

Interesting. We're in the "If a tree falls in the forest and noone is there to hear it..." realm there. I like it. We need to meet up at training one day and discuss it. I'll bring the mushrooms and CBD oil.

What time?

 

[Joao]

I wasn’t joking around. I’d be sort of interested to know.

Sorry, I have NFI and thought I could score some cheap laughs.

 

[GingerDocker]

Sorry, I have NFI and thought I could score some cheap laughs.

The life of an aspiring BF resident comedian is a well worn, but rocky road.

 

[Dayts]

Any idea on what sort of crowd we can expect at Freo Oval on a Thursday afternoon for a 4pm match?

Would 8k be a bit unrealistic?

I wouldn’t be expecting much.
It’s a 410 start on a Thursday, and it’s gonna be 37 odd degrees.
Would suggest if you are gonna go, go early and try get a seat in the shade on the west side..
Have to be pretty keen to sit out on the eastern concrete steps looking into the sun and dealing with the heat.

 

[NYRB]

I wouldn’t be expecting much.
It’s a 410 start on a Thursday, and it’s gonna be 37 odd degrees.
Would suggest if you are gonna go, go early and try get a seat in the shade on the west side..
Have to be pretty keen to sit out on the eastern concrete steps looking into the sun and dealing with the heat.

Yep saw the forecast and I said to myself, Id prefer to watch it on Kayo then attend there.

 

[Wobbly Punt]

What time?

If you're really in touch with the questions being asked and the energy of the encounter, you'll get there on time. You'll just know.