Autopsy 2023 Round 9 – Collingwood vs GWS Giants, Sunday, May 14, 4.40PM AEST, MCG

[MelbourneGWS]

Not that it matters much, but at least we scored higher than our lowest ever score against Collingwood of 54 in 2012

 

[domologue]

Fair point. Need to be more competitive. This isn’t a good look. The list isn’t this bad either

Maybe it is though O_O


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[BarryAglett]

That was hard to watch from start to finish...

 

[Section226]

Peatling again with the blind handpass to a 3:1 Pies advantage.

Has to be Riccardi'd.

Sent him to the 2's.

 

[JoshGiant23]

Lots of Giants players just handpass/kick so it's no longer their problem.

No awareness of the pressure their team mate is under.

Sometimes they just need to run/hold on to it and not go for precision pass.

So many turnovers because they confuse aspiration with ability.

When we try and run and hold its HtB

 

[sydney_gws]

They hype up these high draft picks just for them to look average. Makes you wonder what they saw in them

We where put off by all the Vic Metro players talking going home after 2 years.
Cadman still has time to improve, hopefully grow a bit. Look at Jonathan Browns stats in 1st year if you want to get hope.

 

[Drummond]

Another terrific kick in from Whitfield. 4 and a half more years of this to look forward to.

Would they consider trading him and retaining a fair portion of his salary? He is cooked. Might be worth playing him HFF because he’s a liability down back now.

 

[Land of the Giants]

Cadman still has time to improve, hopefully grow a bit. Look at Jonathan Browns stats in 1st year if you want to get hope.

God, that is the longest of long bows.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

God, that is the longest of long bows.

This is only Cadman’s 5th game of his career, so too early to say he’s a failure as a number 1 draft pick.

 

[domologue]

Nah, Cadman’s not the issue.

KPF takes time to come on. Might be a spell in the 2s. Derkson, TFG, Ward for Cadman, Lloyd, Peatling.

And that’s just the forward line


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[sydney_gws]

God, that is the longest of long bows.

As I understand it, players get about a 10 week off season, as well as 3 weeks off over Christmas. Surely that means they won't miss living in melbourne. They can still spend about 11 weeks a year there, assuming a 2 week overseas holiday.
At least Toby can recover better Ward will be fresh for a winnable game next week vs StKilda.

 

[sydney_gws]

Nah, Cadman’s not the issue.

KPF takes time to come on. Might be a spell in the 2s. Derkson, TFG, Ward for Cadman, Lloyd, Peatling.

And that’s just the forward line


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I think they wanted certain players to play on the MCG in front of family and friends this week.

 

[Section226]

As ridiculous as this probably sounds, and it's post-match frustration, Whitfield needs to be dropped to the 2s for at least a month.

Might encourage him to get some passion (and form) back into his game.

At the moment, he is basically giving the opposition points, playing like someone who is far too comfortable with his position.

Definitely trade him out end of year.

 

[Gigantic]

Fahey in for Whitfield just makes too much damn sense.

 

[Hendo_21]

Didn't get to watch this week because of other stuff man looks really rough, to lay so few tackles is just not good enough, I've been talking about it for a few weeks but Cadman needs a spell in the 2s, he's not ready yet and that's fine but we have other options that we can go to who are in good form so we should, Derksen absolutely deserves a chance. Just a stinker all around.

 

[DowJone23]

As ridiculous as this probably sounds, and it's post-match frustration, Whitfield needs to be dropped to the 2s for at least a month.

Might encourage him to get some passion (and form) back into his game.

At the moment, he is basically giving the opposition points, playing like someone who is far too comfortable with his position.

Definitely trade him out end of year.l we

As ridiculous as this probably sounds, and it's post-match frustration, Whitfield needs to be dropped to the 2s for at least a month.

Might encourage him to get some passion (and form) back into his game.

At the moment, he is basically giving the opposition points, playing like someone who is far too comfortable with his position.

Definitely trade him out end of year.

agreed.

As ridiculous as this probably sounds, and it's post-match frustration, Whitfield needs to be dropped to the 2s for at least a month.

Might encourage him to get some passion (and form) back into his game.

At the moment, he is basically giving the opposition points, playing like someone who is far too comfortable with his position.

Definitely trade him out end of year.

Agreed. Thinks he’s above the team and takes his position for granted. Need to drop him and other high paid players that aren’t performing. It’s all about setting the standard and putting culture above anything else

 

[sydney_gws]

As ridiculous as this probably sounds, and it's post-match frustration, Whitfield needs to be dropped to the 2s for at least a month.

Might encourage him to get some passion (and form) back into his game.

At the moment, he is basically giving the opposition points, playing like someone who is far too comfortable with his position.

Definitely trade him out end of year.

Unfortunately that reflects the big contract bring a mistake, management doesn't want to do that.
I think Fahey in, I guess they are hoping Whitfield comes good somehow.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Collingwood as usual just can’t help their nature - pulling Cadman’s shorts in public

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/collingwoods-cheeky-tactics-prevail-over-giants-at-mcg-in-thrashing/news-story/ebeb34a714875dffb499d267c2c62f41?amp

 

[Cmarsh]

How long are we persisting with Daniel Lloyd

38

Daniel Lloyd

Age

32

Ht

187cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.1

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

4star

G

0.5

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

6.2

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

for? Offering very little.

 

[Section226]

Unfortunately that reflects the big contract bring a mistake, management doesn't want to do that.

Totally agree with you.

He won't be dropped because the upper echelons of the GWS wouldn't allow it.

They'd be made to look stupid.

But he should be dropped purely based on form and attitude.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Totally agree with you.

He won't be dropped because the upper echelons of the GWS wouldn't allow it.

They'd be made to look stupid.

But he should be dropped purely based on form and attitude.

I can understand Toby on such a big contract and signing him until 2026, but Whitfield till 2027? Good luck to him and his agent, but our club should have negotiated better or walked away and traded for draft picks.

 

[Land of the Giants]

Collingwood as usual just can’t help their nature - pulling Cadman’s shorts in public

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/collingwoods-cheeky-tactics-prevail-over-giants-at-mcg-in-thrashing/news-story/ebeb34a714875dffb499d267c2c62f41?amp

One for his highlights reel.

 

[Section226]

Good luck to him and his agent, but our club should have negotiated better or walked away and traded for draft picks.

On a tangent, but relevant....

I think the club has lost HH based on results alone.

I'm still interested, though in what GWS will offer him - contract length and $$, as they've dug themselves a damn big hole based on precedence.

 

[Giant Gutsache]

The 23 Giants managed just 29 tackles today. Taranto alone had 12 for the Tigers on Friday night.
Really was a disappointing effort from the Giants for the one showing at the MCG this year.
There seemed to be a real lack of spirit.

 

[Adam Giant]

Would they consider trading him and retaining a fair portion of his salary? He is cooked. Might be worth playing him HFF because he’s a liability down back now.

Not sure any other team is silly enough to take him.