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True. That is why we spent top picks on Llane Spaandermann, Cameron Wood, Mitch Clark (looked best as ruck at AFL level) and Matthew Leuenberger eith top picks between 2003-2006. Very good strategy and we were richly rewarded.
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True. That is why we spent top picks on Llane Spaandermann, Cameron Wood, Mitch Clark (looked best as ruck at AFL level) and Matthew Leuenberger eith top picks between 2003-2006. Very good strategy and we were richly rewarded.

Don't worry, it all worked out when we picked Billy Longer over Toby Greene in 2011!
 

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True. That is why we spent top picks on Llane Spaandermann, Cameron Wood, Mitch Clark (looked best as ruck at AFL level) and Matthew Leuenberger eith top picks between 2003-2006. Very good strategy and we were richly rewarded.
What have we said re. talking about He Who Must Not Be Named on here?! 😡
 
I'm still holding a candle for Himmelberg. Would be a perfect fit for us as a third tall at either end.

In the draft I think we should target a similar player, even more so if we don't pull that trade off. Patton from SA fits the brief from the description and his likely draft position. Who knows if he will develop of course. I just love the idea of a that sort of third tall in defence.
 
If Doedee signs with the Crom surely McGovern isn’t the answer
For context.


DO STAY, DOEDEE

Adelaide remains confident of re-signing free agent Tom Doedee in the face of interest from Brisbane Lions.

Doedee is recovering from a second knee reconstruction which is likely to cap the scope of the deal due to the obvious risks associated with another unfortunate serious knee injury.

The Lions had been linked to Doedee due to the need to add another intercepting defender to partner Harris Andrews and much-improved stopper Jack Payne.

But the Crows are planning on keeping Doedee as the club closely monitors the defender’s recovery from his latest knee reco.

Carlton’s Mitch McGovern could emerge as a secondary target for Brisbane as a third defender but McGovern has enjoyed a strong second half of the season at Carlton.

McGovern is out of contract at season’s end and is looking at a considerable pay cut to stay at the Blues.
 

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Hard to argue with what may happen with a lot of the below players still OOC and what may happen.

Personally I wouldn’t be giving Zorko another year though & not sure if Coleman and Michael deserve another year? Also, I’d keep Harry personally but for 2 years? Rookie candidate maybe?


Blake Coleman

The brother of dashing half back Keidean Coleman, Blake Coleman is yet to make his AFL debut.

The small forward was Brisbane’s first pick (No. 24) in the 2020 Draft and will probably get another contract as he turns 21 this month.

Verdict: One-year deal

Carter Michael

Signed a one-year deal at the end of last season after breaking through for his first senior game in 2022.

Hasn’t featured in 2023 but could earn another deal as Brisbane’s backline ages.

Verdict: One-year deal or delist

Conor McKenna

Has played 19 games in 2023 since joining Brisbane in the pre-season.

At 27 easily deserves another deal and it will likely be for multiple years.

Verdict: Two-year deal

Daniel Rich

The 275-gamer pulled himself out of Brisbane’s line-up earlier in the season and hasn’t resurfaced at senior level.

2023 will likely be his last but he could earn the right to go on again for one final campaign.

Verdict: Retire

Darragh Joyce

The former Saint has played five games in 2023 after joining the club in the pre-season.

Offers good key defensive depth in a position that’s hard to come by.

Should get another one-year deal.

Verdict: One-year deal

Dayne Zorko

At 34 is coming to the end of his career but is still easily in Brisbane’s best team.

Unless he opts to retire Zorko should be offered a deal to stick around for at least one more season.

Verdict: One-year deal

Deven Robertson

At 22, Robertson is ready to emerge at senior level but has only featured nine times in 2023.

Hailing from Western Australia, Robertson is a likely trade candidate and it wouldn’t shock to see him playing for West Coast in 2024.

Verdict: Requests a trade

Harry Sharp

The 20-year-old has made 10 appearances since making his debut in 2021.

Brisbane surely view Sharp as a future member of their best 22 and you could see that happening as soon as next season.

Verdict: Two-year deal

Kai Lohmann

The only remaining first-round pick from the 2021 draft that’s yet to re-sign.

Brisbane would love to keep the small forward but the GWV Rebels product could leave the club in search of more opportunities.

Verdict: Two-year deal but Lohmann may opt to head elsewhere

Marcus Adams

The hulking defender is on the club’s inactive list as he battles concussion issues.

At 30, it wouldn’t shock to see Adams sadly walk away from the game if his battles haven’t eased by season’s end.

Verdict: Retire

Nakia Cockatoo

The former Cat hasn’t played in 2023 after featuring eight times in 2022.

Was delisted at the end of last season before being selected in the rookie draft.

Has tricks but at 26, his time could be up at the club.

Verdict: Delist

Rhys Mathieson

Another 26-year-old that hasn’t played in 2023, Mathieson continually dominates at VFL-level but is down the pecking order for the senior side.

You get the feeling he’ll be cut but could offer midfield depth at another club.

Verdict: Delist

Ryan Lester

The 30-year-old defender has played 12 games in 2023 and has been serviceable.

Should get another deal given his status as a best 22 player.

Verdict: One-year deal

Tom Fullarton

The forward/ruck hasn’t played in 2023 but has 19 career games to his name.

Has shown signs at Brisbane but could opt to move to another club for more opportunity.

Verdict: Requests a trade
 
Hard to argue with what may happen with a lot of the below players still OOC and what may happen.

Personally I wouldn’t be giving Zorko another year though & not sure if Coleman and Michael deserve another year? Also, I’d keep Harry personally but for 2 years? Rookie candidate maybe?


Blake Coleman

The brother of dashing half back Keidean Coleman, Blake Coleman is yet to make his AFL debut.

The small forward was Brisbane’s first pick (No. 24) in the 2020 Draft and will probably get another contract as he turns 21 this month.

Verdict: One-year deal

Carter Michael

Signed a one-year deal at the end of last season after breaking through for his first senior game in 2022.

Hasn’t featured in 2023 but could earn another deal as Brisbane’s backline ages.

Verdict: One-year deal or delist

Conor McKenna

Has played 19 games in 2023 since joining Brisbane in the pre-season.

At 27 easily deserves another deal and it will likely be for multiple years.

Verdict: Two-year deal

Daniel Rich

The 275-gamer pulled himself out of Brisbane’s line-up earlier in the season and hasn’t resurfaced at senior level.

2023 will likely be his last but he could earn the right to go on again for one final campaign.

Verdict: Retire

Darragh Joyce

The former Saint has played five games in 2023 after joining the club in the pre-season.

Offers good key defensive depth in a position that’s hard to come by.

Should get another one-year deal.

Verdict: One-year deal

Dayne Zorko

At 34 is coming to the end of his career but is still easily in Brisbane’s best team.

Unless he opts to retire Zorko should be offered a deal to stick around for at least one more season.

Verdict: One-year deal

Deven Robertson

At 22, Robertson is ready to emerge at senior level but has only featured nine times in 2023.

Hailing from Western Australia, Robertson is a likely trade candidate and it wouldn’t shock to see him playing for West Coast in 2024.

Verdict: Requests a trade

Harry Sharp

The 20-year-old has made 10 appearances since making his debut in 2021.

Brisbane surely view Sharp as a future member of their best 22 and you could see that happening as soon as next season.

Verdict: Two-year deal

Kai Lohmann

The only remaining first-round pick from the 2021 draft that’s yet to re-sign.

Brisbane would love to keep the small forward but the GWV Rebels product could leave the club in search of more opportunities.

Verdict: Two-year deal but Lohmann may opt to head elsewhere

Marcus Adams

The hulking defender is on the club’s inactive list as he battles concussion issues.

At 30, it wouldn’t shock to see Adams sadly walk away from the game if his battles haven’t eased by season’s end.

Verdict: Retire

Nakia Cockatoo

The former Cat hasn’t played in 2023 after featuring eight times in 2022.

Was delisted at the end of last season before being selected in the rookie draft.

Has tricks but at 26, his time could be up at the club.

Verdict: Delist

Rhys Mathieson

Another 26-year-old that hasn’t played in 2023, Mathieson continually dominates at VFL-level but is down the pecking order for the senior side.

You get the feeling he’ll be cut but could offer midfield depth at another club.

Verdict: Delist

Ryan Lester

The 30-year-old defender has played 12 games in 2023 and has been serviceable.

Should get another deal given his status as a best 22 player.

Verdict: One-year deal

Tom Fullarton

The forward/ruck hasn’t played in 2023 but has 19 career games to his name.

Has shown signs at Brisbane but could opt to move to another club for more opportunity.

Verdict: Requests a trade

Based on comments made by the recruitment/drafting team, and other articles, I don’t think we’ll see that much list turnover. Don’t see that many delistings coming as listed here. Only see Zorks, Rich and Adams (list spot already taken) retiring, with one other delisting/retirement (Gunston) bar a surprise trade. Dev probably signs until free agency (2 years), McKenna for 3.

Where’d you get this list?
 
Based on comments made by the recruitment/drafting team, and other articles, I don’t think we’ll see that much list turnover. Don’t see that many delistings coming as listed here. Only see Zorks, Rich and Adams (list spot already taken) retiring, with one other delisting/retirement (Gunston) bar a surprise trade. Dev probably signs until free agency (2 years), McKenna for 3.

Where’d you get this list?
Obviously nothing taken as gospel from an SEN article, it was more just highlighting where our OOC players were at and what might happen, but here you go.

 

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I’ll preface by saying I think Payne is a tremendous player and has improved out of sight this year. He has allowed Andrews to play a more attacking role and has improved our structure no end.

But…

I get very nervous with these long term deals. There are only a few players in the comp I would be willing to give a 6 year deal to (yes I know it was a 5 year extension).
 
I’ll preface by saying I think Payne is a tremendous player and has improved out of sight this year. He has allowed Andrews to play a more attacking role and has improved our structure no end.

But…

I get very nervous with these long term deals. There are only a few players in the comp I would be willing to give a 6 year deal to (yes I know it was a 5 year extension).

Given his lack of rep, his low number of games played, and being an ex-academy boy, I strongly suspect this is a case of length over $$$ given we were unlikely to be bidding against a large number of other clubs. That tends to make long contract lengths a lot more manageable.
 

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