List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread II - Goldy&Bucket➡️✅/'24 EoFR & #44➡️Stephens&#25✅/#21&#25➡️Fisher&#17✅/'24 EoFR➡️#18✅

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order, aka Future Picks

Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

 

[ferball]

Jy's gotta be the most popular bloke in the league. I reckon Oliver's the fourth or fifth BEST mate I've heard that he has

He's the first player I heard Jy was mates with, years ago. Grew up together near Shep, meth capital of the known universe.

 

[Dan]

I don't know about the off field stuff regarding Oliver but I do know that a player of his calibre isn't coming to our club.

A player like him coming to North is a bit like choosing to go to Pakistan for your holiday.

Not happening.

 

[ferball]

No to Oliver unless cheap. He isn't the missing piece, speed is.

See my previous post.


(JUst joking. 100% agree with you on our need for speed.)

 

[The Nostradamus]

Bottom line.

Oliver is on the gear and is out of control.

Do. Not. Touch.

Yeah you wait for him to spiral for another year then get him on the cheap

 

[Shermanator]

Bottom line.

Oliver is on the gear and is out of control.

Do. Not. Touch.

 

[ferball]

Its ******* hilarious that we could get him and still get a couple first round draft picks this year. Our draft hand really is something else.

We could actually afford to burn some draft capital on him if he's partying too much, on the chance that when he comes good he'll rip it apart again but we'd have to be careful it wasn't too much we still want picks 2,3 and something under 20 this year.

Also how does this go?

If he has behaviour issues do we get him right or does he go off the (or on) rails and take Tarryn with him?

We potentially have a lot to lose that we've already invested time and effort into.

 

[Ohhh Errol]

His disposal has been pox for years now.

I'm not saying he's overrated or doesn't deserve the awards he's won. I'm venting my frustration that he hasn't taken that step from elite to goat. That's unfair on the individual now that I type it out, as that final step to goat is exponentially hard to achieve.

I wouldn't take Oliver for picks. I would trade him for a gun player to fill holes elsewhere other than midfield. The way the collective midfield stood up in Oliver's absence can't be ignored.

This, before today's article;

I'm starting to get a bit worried about our midfield depth. Depending on what decisions Harmes and Brayshaw make regarding their future, we might be going from clearly far too many inside mids on the list to absolutely zero back ups.

I am neutral on Oliver myself. That last game he just blindly dumped the ball into the F50 still upsets me.

Then there was the bombing inside 50 come finals especially against Colling where Oliver was one of the biggest culprits and has been for majority of his career. It's cost us games and finals.

Oliver is signed until he's 33, you reckon he's close to requesting a trade?

Quotes from dees board.

Harmes is out, brayshaw may not play on, so trade Oliver???

 

[ferball]

Are people seriously turning their noses up at Oliver

Before people throw shade about his extra curricular activities, who do you think he hits the town with regularly?

Something up noses by the looks of things.

Nothing wrong with partying if it doesn't mess up your footy performance or your teammates performance. But if it does then it will * us up big time.

So that's the risk with this situation.

 

[Makeshift Park]

We could actually afford to burn some draft capital on him if he's partying too much, on the chance that when he comes good he'll rip it apart again but we'd have to be careful it wasn't too much we still want picks 2,3 and something under 20 this year.

Also how does this go?

If he has behaviour issues do we get him right or does he go off the (or on) rails and take Tarryn with him?

We potentially have a lot to lose that we've already invested time and effort into.

Honestly mate, I got no answers on this one.

He's one of the best players in the comp. I'd drop 3 on him in a heartbeat if there wasn't good reasons to believe he was in a bad way.
Who know if he's got strikes already

In Viney I trust, I guess.

 

[The Dingrel]

A premiership team right in the middle of their window looking to trade out arguably their best player screams alarms bells.

Considering all the red flags and the big long term contract any trade would have to weigh heavily in the oppositions favour.

Also the info getting leaked about Oliver criticising Melbourne’s medical staff, not showing up to end of season club events and not being professional just about makes his position at Melbourne untenable. Why would someone at Melbourne release that info and potentially decrease his value? His manager would never release that info as it as the potential to cost his client hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Something doesn’t add up here imo.

Purely spitballing here but perhaps salary cap issues with Melbourne? Potentially trying to offload him to balance the books but want to paint it as if he is the issue?

Similarities to how we traded out BBB. Doesn't look the type but could he have possibly had a strike or two. Dunno if that was my mind reading into a previous post showing a "bag" could also explain his mysterious hamstring injury.

 

[Ohhh Errol]

From their board

 

[dus]

Get him cheap picks wise; and take on his salary. Give them 14 and a F2. Yep no worries.

Anything regarding top 5 picks, let it go through to the keeper.

Something about bullet dodged springs to mind.

 

[Shinboner roo]

Great didn't sleep last night after Johnny Holmes Ralph with his 573 money shots in movies to his name posted a clear click bait article then reneged it this morning, now I'm in a fit at Clayton Oliver

13

Clayton Oliver

Age

26

Ht

189cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

picking to come to North in his prime after we finished 17th 18th 18th 17th and with more holes in the list then swiss cheese, plus costing us pick 2 or 3 in the deal. Well looks like no sleep again tonight, I hate Bigfooty.

 

[The Dingrel]

We could actually afford to burn some draft capital on him if he's partying too much, on the chance that when he comes good he'll rip it apart again but we'd have to be careful it wasn't too much we still want picks 2,3 and something under 20 this year.

Also how does this go?

If he has behaviour issues do we get him right or does he go off the (or on) rails and take Tarryn with him?

We potentially have a lot to lose that we've already invested time and effort into.

That's a good point re Tarryn, v hard to bring someone into the club with behavior issues and slot him straight into the team when Tarryn has been stood down for his misdemeanors. Sure wasn't on our watch but its bordering on double standards.

 

[justroyal]

A lot of you guys would be make fantastic girlfriends.

No, better yet. You’d be a perfect fit down at *

‘BUT I CAN FIX HIM!’

 

[Ohhh Errol]

Great didn't sleep last night after Johnny Holmes Ralph with his 573 money shots in movies to his name posted a clear click bait article then reneged it this morning, now I'm in a fit at Clayton Oliver picking to come to North in his prime after we finished 17th 18th 18th 17th and with more holes in the list then swiss cheese, plus costing us pick 2 or 3 in the deal. Well looks like no sleep again tonight, I hate Bigfooty.

It was a nice article to wake up to though..."aahhhh, the age clause.... how did I miss the age clause"...

Hey Ralph, if i wanted a roller-coaster i'd go to the show.

 

[Shermanator]

Great didn't sleep last night after Johnny Holmes Ralph with his 573 money shots in movies to his name posted a clear click bait article then reneged it this morning, now I'm in a fit at Clayton Oliver picking to come to North in his prime after we finished 17th 18th 18th 17th and with more holes in the list then swiss cheese, plus costing us pick 2 or 3 in the deal. Well looks like no sleep again tonight, I hate Bigfooty.

I lol’d

 

[ferball]

A lot of you guys would be make fantastic girlfriends.

No, better yet. You’d be a perfect fit down at *

‘BUT I CAN FIX HIM!’

I could fix him real good but we'd probably want him back on earth at some stage...

 

[Event Horizon]

Crikey a few of you must be like lambs to the slaughter when you buy a house or car.

Oliver getting shopped is the equivalent of painting over the mould. Or winding back the odometer.

Before someone protests "but Clarko" - as much as I believe in him, this is the coach who flamed out with Scully, Garlett and Patton himself.

Clayton Oliver

13

Clayton Oliver

Age

26

Ht

189cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

- do not touch.

Scully, Garlett and Patton cost them SFA, and given the state of their list were definitely worth a gamble.

Oliver is a completely different scenario. But luckily we won’t have to make that decision. No way he chooses us


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[Mighty Storm]

We can't afford to stuff this rebuild up,if there's one club that can't take the risk it's us

 

[krakouers]

Final straw for Goodwin was him rocking up 30 mins late to his exit interview, doing plenty, straight off an all nighter - is the rumor.

Ah to be 26 again

 

[krakouers]

A lot of you guys would be make fantastic girlfriends.

No, better yet. You’d be a perfect fit down at *

‘BUT I CAN FIX HIM!’

 

[tazaa]

Reid and Oliver and all these names being thrown around.
Would I love them at North? Yes.
But at the price they will cost? F*** no.

You take 2, 3 and 4 or 5 to the draft, get three guns in and call it a day.
Why limit our draft value on one player? Makes no sense.

If North is smart it will roll all its future picks into engineering future 1st round picks that it trades for from other clubs and keeps the cycle of having at minimum two 1st rounders every year. Similar to GWS when its talent leaves and they get a top up and go to the draft with two 1st rounders each year.
Except we use picks as our assets.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Adam Cooney's new mega trade!
Melbourne: Give Clayton Oliver, Get pick 2
North Melbourne: Give pick 2, Get Sam Taylor
GWS: Give Sam Taylor, Get Clayton Oliver

Spoiler

please actually let this be true...

Honestly can't see GWS giving up Sam Taylor.

 

[big_e]

From their board

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I didn't believe it but now there's a screenshot of a message, BF rules comply me to take it to the bank. Or something like that.