List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

[King Corey]

Edit: will update if ppl happy for this to sticky

Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.

• Mac Andrew
• Hunter Clark
• Zac Fisher
• Sam Flanders
• Mitch Georgiades
• Liam Henry
• Dougal Howard
• Lewis Melican
• Jack Silvagni
• Dylan Stephens
• Adam Tomlinson

 

[The Nostradamus]

What if we don't draft Watson?

Personally, I would only have Hansen jnr and Ginnivan in the same category type of forward. One has not played a game at AFL level after being selected in the mid season draft.

Plus I could see Watson and Ginnivan forming a deadly forward combo

And you are right if we draft someone other than watto then at least we still have a decent small forward

 

[glenn2479]

We have some incredible building blocks if we can get this next draft/trade period right. TT/LDU/Sheez/Wardlaw is an elite midfield. We need Goldy for at least 1 more year and we desperately need to get game time into Goater/Bergman. I don’t see any role for McDonald in our best team and Corr is borderline best 22 for mine. I’d rather keep McKay than lose him. He is an 800k a year player every day of the week in a balanced and settled team which we are not. Our forward line is a major problem for mine. Larkey needs space to work and there is no cohesion in our forward half. We are too slow and PC plays as a marking forward.The ball gets waltzed out of there far too easily and teams can kick out and get it to the wing with their eyes closed. Speed in the front half and the half back line is the modern game and we are playing catch up right now.

 

[shinboner magic]

What if we don't draft Watson?

Personally, I would only have Hansen jnr and Ginnivan in the same category type of forward. One has not played a game at AFL level after being selected in the mid season draft.

Should be a trade period after the draft - to fill any needs

 

[DesertRoo]

Should be a trade period after the draft - to fill any needs

During the draft.
You should be able to trade picks for players on draft night.

It would make the whole thing much more spectacular and a hell of a lot more interesting.

 

[jaspers_barber]

Wasn’t the whole idea of Clark leaving to get away from ratten?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Wasn’t the whole idea of Clark leaving to get away from ratten?

Clark didn’t want to go
Their list manager was open to it (this was after ratten was sacked) if they got a decent deal

As a result clark then would have been happy to go play for us under clarko and his best mate LDU but no deal struck as saints weren’t happy with a second rounder

 

[roos 10]

Clark didn’t want to go
Their list manager was open to it (this was after ratten was sacked) if they got a decent deal

Clark did want to go

 

[The Nostradamus]

Clark did want to go

Saints initiated then he was happy

 

[justroyal]

Clark did want to go

Spot on.
Weren’t Brady’s last words ‘we’ll try again next year’?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Spot on.
Weren’t Brady’s last words ‘we’ll try again next year’?

Yeah I should have said the word initially

It was club (saints list mgmt) initiated then he was happy to go as he knew where he stood (disposable for the right price)

 

[Sphynx]

Spot on.
Weren’t Brady’s last words ‘we’ll try again next year’?

It would need to be for pick 70 or a PSD pick based on yesterday.

He turns 25 next year.

He's Farren Ray with a haircut imo.

 

[justroyal]

It would need to be for pick 70 or a PSD pick based on yesterday.

He turns 25 next year.

He's Farren Ray with a haircut imo.

He is out of contract right? I couldn’t imagine they would have much bargaining power?

 

[BatesyNMFC]

Saints initiated then he was happy

He did want to leave

 

[DesertRoo]

It would need to be for pick 70 or a PSD pick based on yesterday.

He turns 25 next year.

He's Farren Ray with a haircut imo.

He wasn’t good yesterday, coming back from injury he looked like he’d lost a yard of pace, nice footskills when in the open thou.
He reminds me a lot of Perez from our list, they’re either going to come along with a rate of knots in the next twelve months or pact it in.
History isn’t on their side.

 

[chubbspeterson]

What if we don't draft Watson?

Personally, I would only have Hansen jnr and Ginnivan in the same category type of forward. One has not played a game at AFL level after being selected in the mid season draft.

I'm personally not interested even if we don't draft Watson, I don't like the campaigner, clearly having too much fun off the field and it's telling he's not in the Pies side. I'd like to back in who we have at that spot or put Sheezel there whilst he builds his body and fitness.

 

[shintemaster]

I'm personally not interested even if we don't draft Watson, I don't like the campaigner, clearly having too much fun off the field and it's telling he's not in the Pies side. I'd like to back in who we have at that spot or put Sheezel there whilst he builds his body and fitness.

Just talking about it as a hypothetical by type, leave aside whether we like or want Ginnivan - the point is that we have a severe need for speed at the drop and forward pressure.

 

[Nylex]

Clark didn’t want to go
Their list manager was open to it (this was after ratten was sacked) if they got a decent deal

As a result clark then would have been happy to go play for us under clarko and his best mate LDU but no deal struck as saints weren’t happy with a second rounder

If it makes LDU happy, let’s get him. We are very lucky to have LDU on our side

 

[Danni_Benson]

Ginnivan will be an astute pick up if we get him

Bobby hill has taken his spot and ain’t giving it back

Brady could also be watching Highmore as others mentioned or even ash Johnson out of contract

Or Ben Patton small defender out of contract

One of the real issues for us is would a Ginnivan, and others, want to come to North??!!

 

[The Nostradamus]

One of the real issues for us is would a Ginnivan, and others, want to come to North??!!

im sure he'd rather play senior footy than be stuck in the vfl

players leave for a combination of 4 things (money, opportunity, go home factor, success)

we provide money and opportunity and when we target interstate players we hit the go home factor

 

[BatesyNMFC]

im sure he'd rather play senior footy than be stuck in the vfl

players leave for a combination of 4 things (money, opportunity, go home factor, success)

we provide money and opportunity and when we target interstate players we hit the go home factor

Ginnivan chat is outrageous

 

[Eggs11]

Funny how when Ginnivan got busted with substances, channel 7 let him so obviously dodge the question as to whether he’d done it before, coz there was a guy who looked quite similar at a festival in south west VIC and it was widely known that …. anyway, kind of surprised that there was nothing else mentioned.

I would be totally up for a night out with him, Sleevo, TT, Charlie Sheen and Denis Rodman.

 

[giantroo]

AFL 2023: GWS Giants star Harry Himmelberg in talks to stay at club on new contract as rivals circle
www.dailytelegraph.com.au

He’s one of the most in-demand free agents this season but Harry Himmelberg says discussions are moving in the right direction to keep him at the Giants.

Himmelberg has played 144 games for GWS since being taken in the first round of the 2015 draft.

Reports have suggested that Sydney is chasing the versatile big man, while Collingwood and Essendon have also been linked.

But with the Giants currently on a six-game winning streak, the good times are rolling for the men in orange and Himmelberg admits it would be nice if it continued.

“Things are progressing well,” Himmelberg said. “We’re getting to the stage where we want to get to now.

“I let my manager cover most of that stuff, I like to try and stay out of that to focus on footy.

“But I’m happy where I am at the moment. We’ll see where it goes.”

Himmelberg was a standout once again for the Giants in their win against Gold Coast on Sunday.

A permanent place in the backline has brought the best out of Himmelberg. Picture: Getty Images.

He finished with 26 disposals, 12 marks and 10 intercept possessions as GWS’ steadfast defence only conceded three goals after half time.


The 27-year-old’s flexibility to play forward or back has long been considered one of his greatest strengths, but having a set role as part of a defence that has become the best in the competition is a challenge he is relishing.

“It’s definitely easier with a little bit of consistency in your role,” Himmelberg said.

“I don’t mind switching wherever the team needs me, but the continuity really helps and working on the back of your teammates is important in modern footy.

“[Intercept marking] is part of our system and getting to know each other and our positioning. That’s what you want to be doing, turning the footy over, not letting the opposition get marks on you. I’ve had to work pretty hard on that this year.

“We’ve also got a bit of continuity now as far as the same back six that’s rolling through every week. Going into finals, that’s exactly what you need.”

Himmelberg (C) played an important role in the Giants’ sixth-straight win on Sunday. Picture: Phil Hillyard.

Himmelberg was also relieved to be a part of the team that finally broke the Giants’ losing streak in Canberra.

He relocated to the town from Wagga Wagga after finishing school to further his career. A stint at Eastlake while working as a cabinet maker meant Manuka Oval quickly became somewhat of a second home.

Nine losses in a row might have strained that relationship but he hopes it’s the first win of many.

“I always have family come up to these games so it was good to treat them to a win this time,” Himmelberg said.

“We didn’t speak about it too much during the week internally but it’s hard to miss in the media that we’d lost so many in a row here.

“The boys have always loved coming here and we always get a really good crowd … we probably owed it to them to get the job done.”

It‘s undeniable the momentum that is building around the Giants. The win against the Suns propelled them into seventh and puts them in control of their own finals destiny.

Himmelberg knows that with the depth of players in the squad, this is just the beginning.

​

“We’ve got young guys as well who are starting to come out of their own and play consistent footy,” he said.

“That is what you need if you want to make that tilt towards a premiership. We’ve got 22 guys each week who are happy to play their role in the system.
“It’s been really exciting this year and the sky is the limit for us.”

​

 

[Merlin007]

AFL 2023: GWS Giants star Harry Himmelberg in talks to stay at club on new contract as rivals circle
www.dailytelegraph.com.au

He’s one of the most in-demand free agents this season but Harry Himmelberg says discussions are moving in the right direction to keep him at the Giants.

Himmelberg has played 144 games for GWS since being taken in the first round of the 2015 draft.

Reports have suggested that Sydney is chasing the versatile big man, while Collingwood and Essendon have also been linked.

But with the Giants currently on a six-game winning streak, the good times are rolling for the men in orange and Himmelberg admits it would be nice if it continued.

“Things are progressing well,” Himmelberg said. “We’re getting to the stage where we want to get to now.

“I let my manager cover most of that stuff, I like to try and stay out of that to focus on footy.

“But I’m happy where I am at the moment. We’ll see where it goes.”

Himmelberg was a standout once again for the Giants in their win against Gold Coast on Sunday.

A permanent place in the backline has brought the best out of Himmelberg. Picture: Getty Images.

He finished with 26 disposals, 12 marks and 10 intercept possessions as GWS’ steadfast defence only conceded three goals after half time.


The 27-year-old’s flexibility to play forward or back has long been considered one of his greatest strengths, but having a set role as part of a defence that has become the best in the competition is a challenge he is relishing.

“It’s definitely easier with a little bit of consistency in your role,” Himmelberg said.

“I don’t mind switching wherever the team needs me, but the continuity really helps and working on the back of your teammates is important in modern footy.

“[Intercept marking] is part of our system and getting to know each other and our positioning. That’s what you want to be doing, turning the footy over, not letting the opposition get marks on you. I’ve had to work pretty hard on that this year.

“We’ve also got a bit of continuity now as far as the same back six that’s rolling through every week. Going into finals, that’s exactly what you need.”

Himmelberg (C) played an important role in the Giants’ sixth-straight win on Sunday. Picture: Phil Hillyard.

Himmelberg was also relieved to be a part of the team that finally broke the Giants’ losing streak in Canberra.

He relocated to the town from Wagga Wagga after finishing school to further his career. A stint at Eastlake while working as a cabinet maker meant Manuka Oval quickly became somewhat of a second home.

Nine losses in a row might have strained that relationship but he hopes it’s the first win of many.

“I always have family come up to these games so it was good to treat them to a win this time,” Himmelberg said.

“We didn’t speak about it too much during the week internally but it’s hard to miss in the media that we’d lost so many in a row here.

“The boys have always loved coming here and we always get a really good crowd … we probably owed it to them to get the job done.”

It‘s undeniable the momentum that is building around the Giants. The win against the Suns propelled them into seventh and puts them in control of their own finals destiny.

Himmelberg knows that with the depth of players in the squad, this is just the beginning.

​

“We’ve got young guys as well who are starting to come out of their own and play consistent footy,” he said.

“That is what you need if you want to make that tilt towards a premiership. We’ve got 22 guys each week who are happy to play their role in the system.
“It’s been really exciting this year and the sky is the limit for us.”

​

McKay's manager is playing this pretty well - wait until the other chess pieces are off the board, and anyone who needs a KPD only has Ben to turn to

 

[JGreezy]

Himmelberg staying would surely help to get more of a market for McKay.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Just talking about it as a hypothetical by type, leave aside whether we like or want Ginnivan - the point is that we have a severe need for speed at the drop and forward pressure.

Yeah our forward 50 pressure is real bad. We need that lightning quick pressure player like a Brent Daniels at GWS type.