List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[botts]

Howard to Gold Coast rumour on SEN just now.

Straight swop for Ben king

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Bulldogs, Lions sniff around luckless Saint Nick Coffield​

A second club – the Western Bulldogs – has expressed interest in hard-luck St Kilda defender Nick Coffield, one of a number of Saints whose future is in limbo.

Brisbane also inquired about the out-of-contract Coffield, the No.8 pick in the 2017 draft who has not played at AFL level since 2021 due to an ACL setback and then persistent calf issues.

The 23-year-old made it back for four VFL games late in the season, averaging 23 disposals, six marks and eight rebound 50s, and is one of a number of out-of-contract players on the Bulldogs’ radar, including promising Lion Kai Lohmann.

Rivals believe fellow Saints Hunter Clark and the contracted Jack Billings (2025) and Dougal Howard (2024) are also attainable. St Kilda are keen to invest in the draft, but none of this group is likely to score them a high-end selection.

Billings – who coach Ross Lyon views as a forward only – has mild interest elsewhere and would ideally like to move on after playing only three senior games this season, but key defender Howard seems more likely to stay.

Zak Jones, Jimmy Webster, Daniel McKenzie, Liam Stocker and Ryan Byrnes are also without a deal beyond this year. Restricted free agent Jade Gresham’s future is also uncertain, particularly given it is highly unlikely the Saints would receive first-round compensation for him.

Gresham has been linked to Essendon for some time, and The Age confirmed on Monday they are in the hunt for the talented forward. He is keen to play for a big club, according to sources familiar with his intentions.

Essendon may be a big club, but a shite one.
According to Twomey?, Gresham is already on a large contract. Unless Essendon cough up, over that price,
I think we match & keep him.
And Coffield at 23y.o, will bite us on the ass, if we let him go. He will replace Webster in the short-term.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Howard to Gold Coast rumour on SEN just now.

Pick 4 come on down!

 

[stavro#4]

Howard to Gold Coast rumour on SEN just now.

By a caller or by a legit person in the industry?

 

[botts]

Pick 4 come on down!

I actually wonder what it would take to get that. Maybe Howard and next years first?

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Howard to Gold Coast rumour on SEN just now.

3rd round pick & Elijah Hollands in return.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

If we could off load Seb Ross would be good= 50% DE in the final, been wanting too, for awhile.

 

[botts]

If we could off load Seb Ross would be good= 50% DE in the final, been wanting too, for awhile.

We can’t

 

[Sun Ra]

By a caller or by a legit person in the industry?

Text message. There was a segment where Wheatley and his resident trade expert (Cal ?) were going thru text
messages on trade whispers.

 

[stavro#4]

Text message. There was a segment where Wheatley and his resident trade expert (Cal ?) were going thru text
messages on trade whispers.

Oh


Worth adding though.

That last year the point to trading Clark was to get us high enough to grab a legitimate midfielder of high quality.

In a hypothetical GC trade. We would have to give them enough currency + Howard to get pick 4 and allow them to draft their academy kids.

But it would give us access to Mckercher or potentially Duursma and still allow us to keep our pick which based on previous posters is where the key defenders would fall

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

If we get pick 4?
I'd be picking Connor O'Sullivan, more than promising KPP, & very much needed if we offload Howard, alongside Adams.
Although McKercher seems too good a midfielder to pass on there.

 

[gringo2011]

Howard to Gold Coast rumour on SEN just now.

Seems weird one. Collins, Mac Andrew and a few others in development.

If they do want him we should look at a trade for Hollands and Sharp or even Moyle if we want a ruckman. Moyle is one of the best young VFL rucks going around.

 

[gringo2011]

Essendon may be a big club, but a shite one.
According to Twomey?, Gresham is already on a large contract. Unless Essendon cough up, over that price,
I think we match & keep him.
And Coffield at 23y.o, will bite us on the ass, if we let him go. He will replace Webster in the short-term.

Coff is worth keeping but he's not an accountable medium defender. He's an interceptor and distributor. Probably more Battle's replacement. Paton would be the obvious Webster replacement.

 

[St Significant]

So does that mean Highmore might be saved by the possible departures of Howard & Coffield? Or are his papers stamped? I hope to see him break into our 22 next year.

 

[EconomicDecline]

If we get pick 4?
I'd be picking Connor O'Sullivan, more than promising KPP, & very much needed if we offload Howard, alongside Adams.
Although McKercher seems too good a midfielder to pass on there.

We aren't getting pick 4. 100% it's Melbourne's if they want it.

 

[moirae42]

So Gresham, Clark, Billings, Coffield, Howard all on the table.

I would rather keep Coffield out of that group.

That's what, three second round picks for the remainder? At best.

Who needs a bunch of second rounders to secure their academy kids? Is that still how it works?

 

[Gavinmitchell11]

Gold Coast happy to deal with Saints (good prior relations) in relation to pick 4 if we satisfy their requirement for points - should be manageable with outgoing players (including possibly Coffield).

West Coast will draft Harley Reid but if North don’t draft their WA boy The saints will at pick 4 and then will trade him for Reid along with next years first + other pick swaps in their favour. As west coast require multiple picks for their rebuild.

Saints get Harley Reid.

 

[gringo2011]

3rd round pick & Elijah Hollands in return.

They want their later picks for points. Better to do a SOS special and load up on players.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Gold Coast happy to deal with Saints (good prior relations) in relation to pick 4 if we satisfy their requirement for points - should be manageable with outgoing players (including possibly Coffield).

West Coast will draft Harley Reid but if North don’t draft their WA boy The saints will at pick 4 and then will trade him for Reid along with next years first + other pick swaps in their favour. As west coast require multiple picks for their rebuild.

Saints get Harley Reid.

That's kind of crap. Coffield and 2 first round draft picks and later picks for 1 player.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

We aren't getting pick 4. 100% it's Melbourne's if they want it.

they already have pick 5

 

[EconomicDecline]

they already have pick 5

And. With Melbourne where they are now. Do you think they would rather

5, 15, 24, 34 or

4, 5

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

They want their later picks for points. Better to do a SOS special and load up on players.

Howard & later picks then for Hollands, as he was pick 7 in his draft year. Should play better back in Vic.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Gold Coast happy to deal with Saints (good prior relations) in relation to pick 4 if we satisfy their requirement for points - should be manageable with outgoing players (including possibly Coffield).

West Coast will draft Harley Reid but if North don’t draft their WA boy The saints will at pick 4 and then will trade him for Reid along with next years first + other pick swaps in their favour. As west coast require multiple picks for their rebuild.

Saints get Harley Reid.

Unfortunately this isn't the NBA or NFL so draft night trading of players can't take place.

North will take Curtin if WC don't.

If we snagged #4 we'd be hoping that Sanders is available (& not gifted to Norf) or somehow McKercher sneaks through (Maybe Norf take Watson instead of another pure mid).

 

[SaintsSeptember]

If i was West Coast i'd be asking North for their first pick, and a future second in exchange for Pick 1.
Takes the whole Harley Reid thing out of the picture.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

So Gresham, Clark, Billings, Coffield, Howard all on the table.

I would rather keep Coffield out of that group.

That's what, three second round picks for the remainder? At best.

Who needs a bunch of second rounders to secure their academy kids? Is that still how it works?

Agree, Coffield was pick 8 & only 23 y.o, & missed two seasons through injury. Mad not to keep him, & especially as he has proved to be our best interceptor at times. If they want his type?, give em Paton.