2nds 2023 VFL thread

[Lazza16]

I'm hearing that Northern Bullants and Coburg might be dropping out next season, so that will be a watch.

Both stalwarts of the VFA...sad that the AFL 2s have demoted them to the lower leagues. Preston Bullants have had some special Lions playing for them.....Harold Martin, Peter Weightman, Bobby knockem over Ireland, Dicky Telford,, Leigh Carlson and numerous magpie names such as Laurie Hill n Bob Heard.

 

[DERRINALPHIL]

I didn't watch the game but Fort had much better stats than Grundy.

How did it look?

 

[knaf]

I didn't watch the game but Fort had much better stats than Grundy.

How did it look?

Impressions only as I was more focused on Lions players. I did wonder how the Dees were using Grundy as he appeared to be playing forward ruck with only some centre square ball ups.

I had been wondering if the Lions would consider making an offer on Grundy if Dees and Pies were both still committed to paying some of his salary. He did some good things but overall his game put me off the idea. Better to stick with Big O and Fort.

so my impression was that Fort did enough when pitted directly against Grundy to whole his own, maybe slightly shaded. Fort strong around the ground against all opponents. Recall Smith against Grundy a few times, beaten but not disgraced. Fullerton had some good contests in the ruck but as far as I can recall against the other Dee ruck.

as I said impressions only, others may have different views.

 

[Miller1971]

Not all about being good enough, it’s more how healthy the senior list if you play or not. Plus doesn’t feel like a team when heap of individuals playing for themselves which is what happens when they trying to get back into senior AFL side which is probably fair enough.

But it is clearly second best competition in country now behind AFL.

It will significantly below SANFL standard, not sure what you have been watching?

 

[Miller1971]

Reville going well

do they take him as a mature ager as a straight swap for B.Coleman? If there were a couple of injuries to the AFL side and someone had to come in, I know who I'd want!

 

[Nathan Barley]

do they take him as a mature ager as a straight swap for B.Coleman? If there were a couple of injuries to the AFL side and someone had to come in, I know who I'd want!

Neither?

 

[MSB ROYS]

VFL Mini-Match, R22: Casey v Brisbane

Extended highlights of the Demons and Lions VFL clash in round twenty-two

www.afl.com.au

 

[Denno]

I feel quite strongly that we need a national reserves comp so that the standalone Vic clubs can play in their own comp. Too many historic clubs dying. The VFL is hopelessly compromised by AFL clubs having a completely different set of priorities to clubs like the Borough, Williamstown, etc. The AFL killed the VFA so it's their responsibility to maintain the Victorian competition.

100% this.

Where were we before this? Reserves. Where will we end up? Reserves.

In the meantime the AFL has destroyed things, not to mention the flow-on effect to local footy (player payments skyrocketing) too, as a result. AFL has a lot to answer for.

Would have loved to have seen where the VFA ended up without AFL involvement. No doubt there would have been some consolidation, but surely not to the same extent.

All academic now I guess.

 

[Still Me]

It will significantly below SANFL standard, not sure what you have been watching?

The Top 5 or 6 sides would beat same top sides in SANFL easily.

 

[Still Me]

do they take him as a mature ager as a straight swap for B.Coleman? If there were a couple of injuries to the AFL side and someone had to come in, I know who I'd want!

Brisbane not taking Reville anytime soon. Been playing as top up for 5 years so had plenty of time to look at him you would think

 

[Miller1971]

The Top 5 or 6 sides would beat same top sides in SANFL easily.

Don't agree at all. Glenelg I think would be top of either ladder. Don't think anyone is beating anyone easily at that level of footy, but Glenelg as good as any VFL team and Sturt a seriously good side also.

 

[Mr Ripper]

 

[Section 5]

Have our boys played at night this year.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Have our boys played at night this year.

Frankston game was at night

 

[MSB ROYS]

At least Saturday night is better than Friday night or Sunday late afternoon. Still would have preferred the game in the afternoon.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Frankston game was at night

Bet they weren't encouraged to catch the train back to the city!

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Bet they weren't encouraged to catch the train back to the city!

Hopefully they play a bit better this Saturday night compared to the Frankston night game.

 

[Crusha]

Two questions re this weeks Qualifying Final:

1. Why is the Lions website not acknowledging the game ....... "Next Games" listed are Sundays AFLW game, the following weeks AFLW game, Saturday weeks AFL Qual. Final, and then the next AFLW match. (P*ss poor, if you ask me)

2. What might be the composition of our side ...... (potentially more than the usual no. of emergencies may be held out with a view to the following weeks AFL Final) ...... GC will not have that issue ...... more likely they will stronger than normal if there any players eligible to drop back from their recent AFL team.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

2. What might be the composition of our side ...... (potentially more than the usual no. of emergencies may be held out with a view to the following weeks AFL Final) ...... GC will not have that issue ...... more likely they will stronger than normal if there any players eligible to drop back from their recent AFL team.

The flipside is that with their senior team eliminated, there will be an eligibility requirement for Suns players to have played a minimum of... 3? 6? games in the VFL during the season to be able to play a VFL final, which might restrict their available players a bit. Should still be strong favourites though.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Two questions re this weeks Qualifying Final:

1. Why is the Lions website not acknowledging the game ....... "Next Games" listed are Sundays AFLW game, the following weeks AFLW game, Saturday weeks AFL Qual. Final, and then the next AFLW match. (P*ss poor, if you ask me)

Because long-standing fifth-floor ideology is 'the seconds don't matter'.

2. What might be the composition of our side ...... (potentially more than the usual no. of emergencies may be held out with a view to the following weeks AFL Final) ...... GC will not have that issue ...... more likely they will stronger than normal if there any players eligible to drop back from their recent AFL team.

Last year's eligibilty rules were: minimum 6 VFL games, but no more than 12 AFL games. Unaware if that's changed. (Of course, it's open slather if the seniors are playing the same weekend).

Suspect any players under consideration for the firsts (Prior etc) may have their minutes managed.

 

[twhowler]

Because long-standing fifth-floor ideology is 'the seconds don't matter'.



Last year's eligibilty rules were: minimum 6 VFL games, but no more than 12 AFL games. Unaware if that's changed. (Of course, it's open slather if the seniors are playing the same weekend).

Suspect any players under consideration for the firsts (Prior etc) may have their minutes managed.

Yeah interesting one for any players on the fringe.

I think Lyons needs to be match fit but if he gets injured on the weekend then neale pings a hammy then what a disaster

maybe the best 26 stay out of it and just do a solid training session on the saturday?

Getting ahead of myself but i am trying to remember where i heard it - that if we win next weekend we will not be taking a slab of time off. full training sessions, hit out on the weekend off etc. A lesson from the Geelong prelim in 2020. This weekend will be different as AFLPA has a mandated break for all clubs so at least we are in the same boat as everyone else and no excuse for looking flat

 

[Grasshopper17]

i am trying to remember where i heard it - that if we win next weekend we will not be taking a slab of time off. full training sessions, hit out on the weekend off etc. A lesson from the Geelong prelim in 2020.

Reckon you heard this, or words to that effect, in Fages' presser after the St Kilda game.

 

[Still Me]

Yeah interesting one for any players on the fringe.

I think Lyons needs to be match fit but if he gets injured on the weekend then neale pings a hammy then what a disaster

maybe the best 26 stay out of it and just do a solid training session on the saturday?

Getting ahead of myself but i am trying to remember where i heard it - that if we win next weekend we will not be taking a slab of time off. full training sessions, hit out on the weekend off etc. A lesson from the Geelong prelim in 2020. This weekend will be different as AFLPA has a mandated break for all clubs so at least we are in the same boat as everyone else and no excuse for looking flat

I think last year they used a 28 man squad for seniors so they pulled 5 players from VFL side leading into their final with Southport from memory.

Would not be surprised if they do similar thing, although it is a 7 day break before seniors game , but if they resting seniors then might rest entire 28 man squad.

 

[M Malice]

Team for the QF on Saturday night at Metricon >

Jaxon Prior, Darcy Gardiner

27

Darcy Gardiner

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

2.1

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.0

1star

, Bruce Reville.
Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

, Tom Fullarton, Tahj Abberley.

Henry Smith, Rhys Mathieson

36

Rhys Mathieson

Age

28

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

18.4

5star

K

9.4

4star

HB

9.0

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

, James Tunstill.
Shadeau Brain, Jarryd Lyons

17

Jarryd Lyons

Age

33

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.5

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

8.7

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

21.7

5star

K

14.7

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.1

5star

CL

4.7

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.8

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

1.6

4star

, Harry Sharp.

Blake Coleman, Nakia Cockatoo

12

Nakia Cockatoo

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.1

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.1

5star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.6

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.2

3star

, Kai Lohmann.
Darryl McDowell-White, Darcy Fort

32

Darcy Fort

Age

32

Ht

204cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

2.9

3star

CL

2.9

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

9.2

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

3.2

2star

CL

3.6

4star

HO

21.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

CL

2.2

4star

HO

15.6

5star

, Wylie Buzza

13

Wylie Buzza

Age

29

Ht

199cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.1

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.8

4star

.

Kalin Lane, Kyle Dunkley

48

Kyle Dunkley

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.8

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

9.6

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

, Riley Greene, Wilson Barry, Jack Manly.
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Emergencies- Bailey Gordon, Joel Budarick, Jackson Hille, Lockie Rayner, Zac Derksen, Owen Collins.

 

[McIvor]

Good to see Kailin Lane back and Riley Greene retain his place.