Game Day 2024 AFL Fantasy Round ZERO Discussion

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[Shaunn]

What a game of changing fortunes... early on it was Zilliams lock, McCluggage a huge possibility and Coleman looking good. Zilliams didn't do enough for me in the second half, the Scottish suitcase disappeared and Coleman gets injured.

Takeaways from this game (for me) were Dunkley scoring consistently over four quarters, and Hewett also looking consistent. I was looking at Bailey, but 81 doesn't cut it and Lohmann getting 28 from half a game puts him out of my squad.

Good finish to the game as an unbiased spectator, but zero changes to my team from the game.

Not sure how Williams didn't do enough lol, first game back in a long time and 2nd half was very contested with very little chip kicking which would of done alot for him, can only go up from here baring injury.

He's basically 20+ points below his price minimum.

 

[Balsam]

Not sure how Williams didn't do enough lol, first game back in a long time and 2nd half was very contested with very little chip kicking which would of done alot for him, can only go up from here baring injury.

He's basically 20+ points below his price minimum.

If you were already structured with Williams in your side, I can see that he didn't kick himself out. On the flipside, if your team didn't have him, he didn't do enough to cause a restructure.

I didn't have him, so won't be restructuring to bring him in based on what I saw.

 

[Shaunn]

If you were already structured with Williams in your side, I can see that he didn't kick himself out. On the flipside, if your team didn't have him, he didn't do enough to cause a restructure.

I didn't have him, so won't be restructuring to bring him in based on what I saw.

I did have him but i still would of changed based on that, can/will score 100's and at that price and his % ownership he might hurt you if you go against where as even if he goes 10-15 points over (which wont happen) picking him won't do any harm at all.

But if you're happy with the backline then i can understand.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If you were already structured with Williams in your side, I can see that he didn't kick himself out. On the flipside, if your team didn't have him, he didn't do enough to cause a restructure.

I didn't have him, so won't be restructuring to bring him in based on what I saw.

Just remember ...last week was Zilliams 1st hitout in a year .....managed minutes in the VFL

This game, the plan would have been to again manage his minutes ....but due to Doc's injury, he had to play the game out

He's only going to get better week by week ....I'll carry him at D6, knowing I have best 18 ....and he's my only R2 bye player ....by R3 I should reap the benefits of his seagulism

 

[Phar Ace]

Is the extra 100k for Massimo worth it at D6 over Coffield? I'm toying with it

Probably not

 

[Phar Ace]

Just remember ...last week was Zilliams 1st hitout in a year .....managed minutes in the VFL

This game, the plan would have been to again manage his minutes ....but due to Doc's injury, he had to play the game out

He's only going to get better week by week ....I'll carry him at D6, knowing I have best 18 ....and he's my only R2 bye player ....by R3 I should reap the benefits of his seagulism

This is why you roll with ZWilliams - carry him to a lower BE for his future value

 

[Exambolor]

Just remember ...last week was Zilliams 1st hitout in a year .....managed minutes in the VFL

This game, the plan would have been to again manage his minutes ....but due to Doc's injury, he had to play the game out

He's only going to get better week by week ....I'll carry him at D6, knowing I have best 18 ....and he's my only R2 bye player ....by R3 I should reap the benefits of his seagulism

Yeah I reckon I’m fine taking a punt on Zilliams. Shown enough of the cheapie merchant role. Plus we have a lot of DEF rookies to use as cover for R2 (could easily chuck on a Gibcus, Reid, Howes, Pink etc)

 

[4tune8]

This is why you roll with ZWilliams - carry him to a lower BE for his future value

Something I didn't realise is that Fantasy pricing uses a 5 game rolling average to calculate BE's (according to stats guru Jaiden Popowski) So any of these round 0 players that score well above their starting BE's are going to have that score roll through. Heeney is a good example with his 121 having an effect up until his his bye in round 5 and according to the guru, the biggest effect.

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[Exambolor]

Today will be the big big watches.

If Naicos goes large tonight…. It’d be pretty ballsy to leave him out, I have a potential plan in place to bring him in without destroying my structure

Same with Flanders, if he hasn’t been Dimma’d and does well, although I’m less confident with him considering they want to roll with Touk, Rowell and Anderson as the main three

 

[4tune8]

Today will be the big big watches.

If Naicos goes large tonight…. It’d be pretty ballsy to leave him out

Same with Flanders, if he hasn’t been Dimma’d and does well, although I’m less confident with him considering they want to roll with Touk, Rowell and Anderson as the main three

Yep, Sexton another along with Campbell (Tigers rookie) Short, Harvey Taylor, Dean, Green even Himey

 

[wahooo]

Something I didn't realise is that Fantasy pricing uses a 5 game rolling average to calculate BE's (according to stats guru Jaiden Popowski) So any of these round 0 players that score well above their starting BE's are going to have that score roll through. Heeney is a good example with his 121 having an effect up until his his bye in round 5 and according to the guru, the biggest effect.

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I was considering starting Jackson. Thinking was that he should score well for the month or so that Darcy misses. Heeney is also a similar prospect in that he should go alright for a month or so until the mids are bolstered with Adams and maybe Mills back.

In the past I've been guilty of skipping someone like Heeney because it's only a few weeks that they'll maintain the role for etc, and I often find myself missing those points and cash gen. Going to be less stubborn this year and have a bit of fun.

The choice was easy, Jackson or Heeney? I'm taking the guy who's cheaper and has a 121 in his rolling average. Even if Heeney dishes up an 80 in round one and Jackson looks the real deal with a 110, I can swap them with minimal fuss due to the additional price rise that Heeney will get.

 

[Exambolor]

Yep, Sexton another along with Campbell (Tigers rookie) Short, Harvey Taylor, Dean, Green even Himey

Yeah I’m hoping another low price FWD rookie pops up, as my potential Naicos plan is dropping one of my $600k forwards, fielding Wilson and then bumping Massimo up to him

Would leave me with a DEF of….

Naicos
Sheeze
Young
Clark
Zilliams
Reid


And my MID which is crucial to this plan (it’s looking stacked)

Dawson
Parish
Libba
Butters
Duke
Martin
Kerch
Sanders

Would leave me with potentially 6 C/VC options including English

FWD’s would look a bit lighter though.

But we’ll find out for certain come the end of tonight.


Heeney is the hard one though… you’d bring him in for the Breakeven but man it’s tough.

 

[4tune8]

Yeah I’m hoping another low price FWD rookie pops up, as my potential Naicos plan is dropping one of my $600k forwards, fielding Wilson and then bumping Massimo up to him

Would leave me with a DEF of….

Naicos
Sheeze
Young
Clark
Zilliams
Reid


And my MID which is crucial to this plan (it’s looking stacked)

Dawson
Parish
Libba
Butters
Duke
Martin
Kerch
Sanders

Would leave me with potentially 6 C/VC options including English

FWD’s would look a bit lighter though.

But we’ll find out for certain come the end of tonight.


Heeney is the hard one though… you’d bring him in for the Breakeven but man it’s tough.

Assume you'd lose one of the mids to fund Heeney? Guess it depends also on which mid rookie comes onto the field and which forward rookie comes off. But yes, those lines are very strong.

 

[4tune8]

I was considering starting Jackson. Thinking was that he should score well for the month or so that Darcy misses. Heeney is also a similar prospect in that he should go alright for a month or so until the mids are bolstered with Adams and maybe Mills back.

In the past I've been guilty of skipping someone like Heeney because it's only a few weeks that they'll maintain the role for etc, and I often find myself missing those points and cash gen. Going to be less stubborn this year and have a bit of fun.

The choice was easy, Jackson or Heeney? I'm taking the guy who's cheaper and has a 121 in his rolling average. Even if Heeney dishes up an 80 in round one and Jackson looks the real deal with a 110, I can swap them with minimal fuss due to the additional price rise that Heeney will get.

I'll be taking a punt on both, Jackson is now underpriced for his role and Heeney was already underpriced, his role has just made him more underpriced.

 

[Hillsy13]

What are people’s thoughts on cam Mackenzie? Wasn’t gonna start him but have enough spare cash to get sharp up to him. Let’s me put Lazaro on bench with Reid my only forward rookie. He probably scores more and generates more cash than sharp?


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[Zevon]

Those that are going Heeney & Jackson… are you also starting Fisher? I’m looking at doing that but just wondering how many others are hitting that heavy in a line that we’ve pretty much written off as being worthy of spending big on all pre season.

 

[Sixpence]

My D4-D8 is Yeo, Williams, Coffield, Zeid, Howes. Not overly happy with that as I think it's going to be the same for everyone else. Not a lot of great alternate options.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Those that are going Heeney & Jackson… are you also starting Fisher? I’m looking at doing that but just wondering how many others are hitting that heavy in a line that we’ve pretty much written off as being worthy of spending big on all pre season.

Grundy and Xerri ruck combo and ive also skimped in the midfield, think there's too much value there too ignore. Parish is my M1 but even he may become Butters

 

[Zevon]

My D4-D8 is Yeo, Williams, Coffield, Zeid, Howes. Not overly happy with that as I think it's going to be the same for everyone else. Not a lot of great alternate options.

Yeah identical to me and no doubt stacks of others as well. Don’t think there’s anything wrong with that though. Plenty of opportunities for unique picks elsewhere, plus having an ultra unique team to start the year is overrated anyway.

Grundy and Xerri ruck combo and ive also skimped in the midfield, think there's too much value there too ignore. Parish is my M1 but even he may become Butters

Very similar strategy here at this stage, right down to the price range for M1. Was Butters for a long time. Currently Serong but also strongly considering Parish.

 

[Tex Danger]

I was considering starting Jackson. Thinking was that he should score well for the month or so that Darcy misses. Heeney is also a similar prospect in that he should go alright for a month or so until the mids are bolstered with Adams and maybe Mills back.

In the past I've been guilty of skipping someone like Heeney because it's only a few weeks that they'll maintain the role for etc, and I often find myself missing those points and cash gen. Going to be less stubborn this year and have a bit of fun.

The choice was easy, Jackson or Heeney? I'm taking the guy who's cheaper and has a 121 in his rolling average. Even if Heeney dishes up an 80 in round one and Jackson looks the real deal with a 110, I can swap them with minimal fuss due to the additional price rise that Heeney will get.

Both?

 

[4tune8]

Heeney, Jordon in the same fwd six? With Sexton? A bit uncomfortable for byes isn’t it?

Guess it depends on who you have for cover and whether there's loop options as well. I have Jordon, Roberts, Heeney, Grundy and Daicos in round 5 (for now) Jordon and Roberts won't cost many points.

With those 5 out I'll be fielding 9 rookies, 3 MP's and 10 keepers. The 9 rookies are pretty solid so I'm hoping that the 5 that count wont be too far off the mark

 

[amazingjoshy]

Grundy and Xerri ruck combo and ive also skimped in the midfield, think there's too much value there too ignore. Parish is my M1 but even he may become Butters

I've bloody done it again

 

[Tex Danger]

Those that are going Heeney & Jackson… are you also starting Fisher? I’m looking at doing that but just wondering how many others are hitting that heavy in a line that we’ve pretty much written off as being worthy of spending big on all pre season.

Grundy and Xerri ruck combo and ive also skimped in the midfield, think there's too much value there too ignore. Parish is my M1 but even he may become Butters

This looks like how I’ll be shaping up although I feel like I want Gawn so there are options to make that work too. Either way it’s thin AF mids for me

Hard to get my head around the plan with Gawns sub par score. On the 1 hand it means his price won’t move as much pre bye and maybe just the cash gen of xerri will be the best playbut on the other hand in a hard match up his scoring for 3/4 quarters was good enough and I can still see him going 108-110 and being a great pick

 

[Zevon]

I've bloody done it again

Just need tigs2010 to have him in his team and then punt him for somebody else now. It’ll go from “hamstring tightness, may miss a week” to “grade 3 hamstring tear, 6 to 8” in a flash. Poor old Parish won’t know what hit him.

 

[mezaire]

Heeney, Jordon in the same fwd six? With Sexton? A bit uncomfortable for byes isn’t it?

Agreed.

I also have Gawn, Grundy, Howes, Roberts and Windsor.

As much as I like Heeney, other players on the same bye as him present better value