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Mid-season trading would largely favour Victorian teams. I’m stunned they haven’t approved it (yet).


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Its not so much they haven't approved it as they need another year to embed down how much the Vics can milk it for.
 

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GWS have announced TAB as a partner.

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so? the whole sport is taking massive money from gambling so all clubs are directly and indirectly .
 
Where do people draw the line, cancel the maccas sponsorship due to obesity?

People go bankrupt buying property, cancel real estate and banking sponsors ?
 
Whilst I agree with you caesar88 we shouldn't be the ones saying anything Qatar as a sponsor
I don't like our Qatar sponsorship either but I think the degrees of separation make them a little different.

We're sponsored by Qatar Airways, an airline that is owned by the Qatar government. We're not sponsored by the Qatar government. When we promote Qatar Airways we're promoting plane food, plane suites, departure lounges etc. We're not telling people to visit Doha or touting what a good bloke the Emir is. Yes it ends up putting money into a government with a terrible human rights record, but so does every trip someone makes on a Qatar or Emirates plane, or every day-to-day activity that is run by Saudi oil.

TAB is gambling. It's their entire purpose as an organisation. How are GWS even going to promote their sponsor without directly promoting the concept of gambling?
 
I don't like our Qatar sponsorship either but I think the degrees of separation make them a little different.

We're sponsored by Qatar Airways, an airline that is owned by the Qatar government. We're not sponsored by the Qatar government. When we promote Qatar Airways we're promoting plane food, plane suites, departure lounges etc. We're not telling people to visit Doha or touting what a good bloke the Emir is. Yes it ends up putting money into a government with a terrible human rights record, but so does every trip someone makes on a Qatar or Emirates plane, or every day-to-day activity that is run by Saudi oil.

TAB is gambling. It's their entire purpose as an organisation. How are GWS even going to promote their sponsor without directly promoting the concept of gambling?
I use the TAB as do many people i know
 

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I don't like our Qatar sponsorship either but I think the degrees of separation make them a little different.

We're sponsored by Qatar Airways, an airline that is owned by the Qatar government. We're not sponsored by the Qatar government. When we promote Qatar Airways we're promoting plane food, plane suites, departure lounges etc. We're not telling people to visit Doha or touting what a good bloke the Emir is. Yes it ends up putting money into a government with a terrible human rights record, but so does every trip someone makes on a Qatar or Emirates plane, or every day-to-day activity that is run by Saudi oil.

TAB is gambling. It's their entire purpose as an organisation. How are GWS even going to promote their sponsor without directly promoting the concept of gambling?

I don't think its reasonable to say that there's a degree of separation. In fact, there is no genuine separation between Qatar Airways and the Qatari Government.

Its fully government owned and the executives are directly appointed by the Al Thani family. So we are effectively sponsored by the Qatari government.

And given that every Qatar Airways flight from Australia goes to Doha ..... advertising Qatar Airways is telling people to visit Doha!

I love the Swans - but I'll never be comfortable with the Qatar Airways sponsorship.
 
I don't think its reasonable to say that there's a degree of separation. In fact, there is no genuine separation between Qatar Airways and the Qatari Government.

Its fully government owned and the executives are directly appointed by the Al Thani family. So we are effectively sponsored by the Qatari government.

And given that every Qatar Airways flight from Australia goes to Doha ..... advertising Qatar Airways is telling people to visit Doha!

I love the Swans - but I'll never be comfortable with the Qatar Airways sponsorship.
I think the degree of separation lies in what we're promoting. It's an airline, we're promoting it. TAB are a betting company, GWS are promoting it. Huge difference IMO. If you want to get into the details of whose money ends up in whose pockets, then we're all culpable, so there's no point.
 
I don't think its reasonable to say that there's a degree of separation. In fact, there is no genuine separation between Qatar Airways and the Qatari Government.

Its fully government owned and the executives are directly appointed by the Al Thani family. So we are effectively sponsored by the Qatari government.

And given that every Qatar Airways flight from Australia goes to Doha ..... advertising Qatar Airways is telling people to visit Doha!

I love the Swans - but I'll never be comfortable with the Qatar Airways sponsorship.
Sunglasses Hiding GIF by Soul Train

I'm flying to Athens with Qatar via Doha in a couple of weeks......
If it's any excuse, I won the flights at a Swans game!
 
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Let's be real capitalism is a morality s**t show. Anyone that can afford to sponsor us is a scum bag

Would prefer distance from gambling and Qatar
Yep it really is a shit show and in Utopia we would only have saintly sponsors and those that have passed the clean test, but we don't live in Utopia and all clubs need sponsorship dollars.
Doesn't make it right, just makes it life.
 
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