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Great update, always such a handy resource. Just a note, you've got Campbell as no. 10 instead of 16.
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Some updates on Sam, Mills and Stretch:
Luckless tall to return to training, Mills gets a boost
Sam Reid will start pre-season training on Monday after being re-listed by the Swans on Wednesdaywww.afl.com.au
Most interesting thing was McAndrew had surgery recently on his wrist. Would love to when the Op was. If it was in November for an injury picked up in season, I would be pissed off.
he's a tad taller, but i rekon Snell has bee npicked with a view to doing Rampes role, 3rd tall type.
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Looking at Rusty's list there has confirmed an inkling I had but hadn't really studied. Especially with Mills out, there is very little experience in depth in "non-tall" positions. Jordon with 60 odd games, Sheldrick and Roberts with a few games each. Which is fine in that a few younger players will probably get a chance if they earn it, but something to consider.
I initially missed that you had said "in depth" and was thinking "whaaaat?" but in fact you are exactly correct. Unless we get hit dreadfully by injury we will be OK by shuffling the magnets and using the three you mention plus Fox. But I believe next year's draft will be a focus on mids. Who knows about trades. I suspect we won't be big players there after this year's effort.
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I think this is an opportunity. Getting games into players like Sheldrick, Roberts, Corey, Konstanty etc will definitely improve the list. If any of those get succussive games then someone with more experience will be depth. That is life.
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Fox's attempt at Round 1 team predictions - Bombers’ overhaul; Crows’ big gamble as nine draft bolters unleashed: Predicted Rd 1 teams
B: Dane Rampe, Tom McCartin, Harry Cunningham
HB: Jake Lloyd, Joel Hamling, Nick Blakey
C: Errol Gulden, Chad Warner, Justin McInerney
HF: Braeden Campbell, Hayden McLean, Isaac Heeney
F: Tom Papley, Joel Amartey, Logan McDonald
FOLL: Brodie Grundy, Luke Parker, James Rowbottom
I/C: Taylor Adams, Ollie Florent, Will Hayward, James Jordon, Angus Sheldrick (sub)
Missing: Callum Mills
B: Dane Rampe, Tom McCartin, Harry Cunningham
HB: Jake Lloyd, Joel Hamling, Nick Blakey
C: Errol Gulden, Chad Warner, Justin McInerney
HF: Braeden Campbell, Hayden McLean, Isaac Heeney
F: Tom Papley, Joel Amartey, Logan McDonald
FOLL: Brodie Grundy, Luke Parker, James Rowbottom
I/C: Taylor Adams, Ollie Florent, Will Hayward, James Jordon, Angus Sheldrick (sub)
Missing: Callum Mills
First day of preseason. I'm excited to finally see all of our new recruits in action
Fair.
I don't think we got Jordon, best 23 in a Top 4 team, to play VFL. Having said that, I still think Fox should be in there unless we see Florent as progressing in a more defensive role. Depends on the opponent too. If they've got multiple small/medium types (like the Dees will in Round 0), we probably should play Fox. Similarly, we seem to really want a pressure/defensive forward at all costs, so unless we see someone else performing that, Wicks is likely.
However the maths doesn't add up, and given our reluctance to drop Hayward, don't really know who makes way for either of Fox or Wicks.
And I think Melican gets the nod over Hamling if fit, it'll be his spot to lose given his good form when fit late on this season.
Preseason will be very competitive in every area.
Hamling vs Melican vs Francis (pick 1).
Cunningham vs a taller setup (Fox?).
Jordon vs Gulden vs McInerney vs Warner vs Campbell (pick 4?).
Buller vs Amartey.
Wicks vs a taller setup.
Sheldrick and Roberts pushing hard.
Intraclub will be something!
I think Jordon is probably on the bench or as sub because of versatility. Need a winger, he's solid. Need an inside mid, he's solid. He loses out to others in direct competition, but is more versatile than say JMac or Campbell as far as the midfield/wing goes. Obviously they can play HB/HF so are versatile elsewhere.
I think Cunningham is a lock, as there are very few clubs without a small fwd to lock down on. It then becomes a question of who takes the best medium forward we may need to lock down on. Fox is the best option, but for some opponents we might think Florent will do for flexibility. Also depends which Fox is playing. If he's in form, you have him in no question. If questionable, and this was partly due to being thrown around this year, you may not (as much as it pains me).
I think we've shown we want Wicks (or Clarke who is N/A) in the side regardless of any other forward makeup. It'll just depend whether we think a Sheldrick, Campbell etc can mostly fill the role and get some time elsewhere (e.g. Sheldrick midfield, late in quarters).
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Sheldrick might push Wicks out of the side. The addition of Adams and Jordon despite the loss of Stephens and Mills will create pressure and competition for spots in the midfield. Stephens wasn't a lock. I think Sheldrick can be. Roberts will be pushing too. Something has to give. Wicks is good at his job but he is not as talented as Sheldrick. Nor as powerful.
I think it will probably take another injury (beyond Mills) to break the impasse on the inside.
Adams almost certainly will take Mills' place initially, Parker will continue a high rate of stoppage attendances. Warner and Rowbottom will have the edge on the up-and-comers.
Unless Gulden and Warner are moved more to the outside it's hard to see where Sheldrick or Roberts fit in the normal course of things.
When Mills comes back it will get even more congested.
I'm not at all sure that Sheldrick or Roberts have the agility or acceleration to perform that role more than occasionally or as a stop gap. I suspect Konstanty would get the gig first as long as he progresses.
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I reckon Sheldrick is ahead of both Wicks and Konstanty.Konstanty has done nothing yet. Wicks is vanilla small small forward. Sheldrick has more weapons.
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Gus does have a bit of breakaway speed.
I think the league is pressing significantly towards having a big group of hard-running, quick, powerful HF flankers and forward pockets - it's an area that I think we're a little lacking in. Guys who can get up and back the ground but also be really creative and damaging with the extra space afforded by 6-6-6 and man-on-the-mark rules encouraging more daring ball movemenet.
We tend to rest midfielders in our forward line like Rowbottom, Parker, Warner, even Sheldrick when he was fit but I think we saw when McInerney shifted to HF at the end of the year he had a significant impact upon the functioning of the forward line. I think we need to get Papley back to the forward line full-time, we need Konstanty to take a BIG step up this off-season, and I'd be settling McInerney forward from now on - not on the wing. I've said it already but I'd be seriously considering Hayward into defence because I feel his pace isn't quite there to take advantage of what I've listed above given Heeney is also up there. And I think he'd be really good in defence as an intercepting presence.
We tend to rest midfielders in our forward line like Rowbottom, Parker, Warner, even Sheldrick when he was fit but I think we saw when McInerney shifted to HF at the end of the year he had a significant impact upon the functioning of the forward line. I think we need to get Papley back to the forward line full-time, we need Konstanty to take a BIG step up this off-season, and I'd be settling McInerney forward from now on - not on the wing. I've said it already but I'd be seriously considering Hayward into defence because I feel his pace isn't quite there to take advantage of what I've listed above given Heeney is also up there. And I think he'd be really good in defence as an intercepting presence.
Leaving aside the Hayward to defence question the rest of your proposition has a lot of merit. Interesting to see what, if any, changes to the game plan (and troops) we see. We have people like Corey available. HHK was the type you propose.
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I don't think we have anyone who can bring forward pressure like Wicks and I feel like it's something we need more of, not less of. Collingwood won a flag with four natural small forwards and we want to essentially go in with only one (Papley) just because the other (Wicks) isn't a glamorous option. Doesn't sound promising to me...
Yeh I tend to want to replace Wicks because I'm not convinced by his skill level - but until such time as Konstanty or someone else takes the spot by force of performance, we have to have him in the side IMO.
Yep. Unless we have resting mids and/or others like Campbell who can and will do what Wicks does, rather than them having different weapons so to speak, then Wicks is in the 22.
Brisbane lost by a point and had two. Dee's have two. GWS have three. Blues have two. Two is enough if they are good enough and there's a decent resting mid or two.
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Brisbane had three - Rayner, Cameron & McCarthy. Four if you include Ah Chee. Carlton had three - Fogarty, Cottrell, Motlop. Even Brisbane were lucky to only lose by under a goal to the Pies considering they had about 10 less scoring shots, a disparity that was aided by the fact Collingwood had 14 more inside 50s, a disparity that was aided by Collingwood's superior forward pressure.
If you take Wicks out, where's the forward pressure gonna come from for us? I look at everyone else and they're all bitsa types. They can lay a tackle or put body on an opponent here and there but that manic chase, tackle, pressure isn't built into their game. I feel like we'd be very easy to repel from our forward 50 against.
