List Mgmt. 2024 Draft Thread

[_Mike_]

FYI

Will add a 2024 NAB Draft & Trade tracker thread, stickied.

Tag me when we have a confirmed trade/draft and I will update the thread accordingly

 

[Deadly Darcy]

I’ll get to sorting the Bulldogs Phantom out so we can start this weekend

Still after some more interested parties, don’t want to overwhelm anyone with too many teams

I’m just hoping now that Richmond with all their picks that they’re not taking both Hotton and Hannaford

I'll take a team if you need numbers. I'm no expert but I'm pretty across this draft

 

[_Cerberus_]

I'm still not 100% on Hannaford. My concern is, he was doing good, without being great, for most of his career. His disposal, mark and goal numbers were nothing big. Though his tackle numbers were great. There was questions about his general consistency and impact. Don't think he was originally invited to the combine. Then suddenly he explodes with a red hot final few weeks.

So the question is, what is the real Hannaford? The one for most of his under 18s career, or the one who went boom across the final few weeks? Club will need to make sure it wasn't a flash in the pan. If we are confident that he can reproduce that at AFL level, I will trust the clubs instincts.

I am hoping we can land at minimum, two mids. And perhaps a small forward/genuine half forward, and a defender who can play on smaller types with our picks. Am open to us trading next years picks into this year if needed.

The only thing I hate about our picks 17 and 25, is watching them drop back pick by pick, and wondering which slider will reach us, only to see them taken right before us.

 

[DiamondDogs8]

Anyone have thoughts on Tom Gross? I’ve noticed there aren’t a whole lot of pure mids around our first two picks

 

[Generation West]

Because they take a while to develop & there are enough concerns over what we have. Plus we’ve never really shown that much of an interest to find a mature age one or trade for one. Buss, Jones, Collins, Adams & sudden recent interest in Barrass aside, and that is going back a while now. We’ve never really had any goodepth there anyway.

Keath - cooked, may be delisted?
Gardner - I don’t mind him as much as plenty of others wouldn’t mind seeing what Pratt can do with him though, 2024 was a write off with injuries.
Jones - 34, some concerns about form but I think it was overblown. But he can’t do it all on his own.
Lobb - about 10 games there, we are really hoping it wasn’t a flash in the pan for 2025.
Buss - untried as yet, need to be hopeful though. But can’t be relied on to hit the ground & never look back.
Croft - I think we want/wanted to try & turn him into a defender, but everything appears to point towards forward & maybe ruck. Have to hope his run of injuries turn around like Darcy too.
JOD - good prospect, but already some concussion worries.
Khamis - some players take time, but hard to see him being more than a depth option

Last couple at least more of a 2nd/3rd tall type, but I mean someone that can play on the big boys. Old fashioned full back role.

Of course if we plan on addressing this with a ready-made option which appears to be the norm these days, then fair enough. I do agree a genuine small forward option is also a need as Arty & Clarke may not come on and need a genuine goal-kicker type.

If not, I’d be thinking more like either 2 mids with one a half forward/mid goal kicker type, even if they are a medium sized marking forward which we don’t really have currently.

You just named 7 x KPD, plus Keath who will almost certainly be delisted. Buss and Buku are more suited to third tall defender, but Buss should graduate to the key post. JOD needs more development as a KPD (I don't think third tall suits him). That is plenty.

 

[Dav1d]

Anyone have thoughts on Tom Gross? I’ve noticed there aren’t a whole lot of pure mids around our first two picks

Seems to get to a lot of the right spots and isn’t too bad disposing of it. A bit indecisive with the ball though
Gross & Dattoli both look good but something is just off about them, at least to me

 

[iambrilliant]

Not a draft expert so go easy on me but here’s my wishful draft from what I’ve read on here/highlights I’ve watched

17- berry/hotton

25 - hannaford

35 - Angus Clarke

48- uquhart

 

[bobs head soup]

Just tried to work out what our picks look like after father/son, academies and the picks used to match bids.

The obvious ones are Ashcroft (Brisbane), Kako (Essendon), Lombard (GC) before 17 and then Marshall (Brisbane) in the early 20s

Any other likely matched bids?

Looking at the picks those clubs have to match bids (and barring any further pick trades), our 17, 25, 35 & 48, should become 20, 29, 35 & 42.

 

[Mojorisin]

Just tried to work out what our picks look like after father/son, academies and the picks used to match bids.

The obvious ones are Ashcroft (Brisbane), Kako (Essendon), Lombard (GC) before 17 and then Marshall (Brisbane) in the early 20s

Any other likely matched bids?

Looking at the picks those clubs have to match bids (and barring any further pick trades), our 17, 25, 35 & 48, should become 20, 29, 35 & 42.

I expect we bid on Marshall at 17

 

[bobs head soup]

I expect we bid on Marshall at 17

Fair enough. That'd push 20 back to 21, everything else unchanged.

 

[Ash1337]

Hotton looks clear to get to dogs first pick as long as pick 14 is not traded to a Victorian team as the non-Victorian teams prefer country players. Could always trade up to 14 to make sure.

Hoping for Moraes the 2nd and Oliver 3rd.

 

[Pencil case]

Hotton looks clear to get to dogs first pick as long as pick 14 is not traded to a Victorian team as the non-Victorian teams prefer country players. Could always trade up to 14 to make sure.

Hoping for Moraes the 2nd and Oliver 3rd.

Not sold on Hotton

 

[Mofra]

Anyone have thoughts on Tom Gross? I’ve noticed there aren’t a whole lot of pure mids around our first two picks

I just think he's got all the tools but "stops and props" too often when he gets the ball. Good luck to the kid but I hope we look at someone else.

 

[Mofra]

Hotton looks clear to get to dogs first pick as long as pick 14 is not traded to a Victorian team as the non-Victorian teams prefer country players. Could always trade up to 14 to make sure.

Hoping for Moraes the 2nd and Oliver 3rd.

I'm worried that Moraes hasn't developed this year as we would hope.

I'm warming to the idea of Hynes with our first. He's a bit boom/bust but an explosive 190cm kid who has midfield scope but will start forward seems perfect for us.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

I'm worried that Moraes hasn't developed this year as we would hope.

I'm warming to the idea of Hynes with our first. He's a bit boom/bust but an explosive 190cm kid who has midfield scope but will start forward seems perfect for us.

Looks pretty good from the footage I’ve seen. Reminds me a little of Cripps.

Older draftee, turns 19 in Feb. Possible concerns not a lot of room for development?

Is his draft range in the teens?

 

[Bonti 5416]

I'm worried that Moraes hasn't developed this year as we would hope.

I'm warming to the idea of Hynes with our first. He's a bit boom/bust but an explosive 190cm kid who has midfield scope but will start forward seems perfect for us.

190cm mid/fwd….Thats Matt Kennedy, maybe not explosive but he fills that spot along with Bont. Better fit for the roll than Macrae for half the money.

High half forwards in the Dylan Moore, Brent Daniels mold the most pressing need. Endurance, pace and footy IQ. Joe Berry would be ideal, can’t see him getting past Richmond at 14. Would love to see us trade future first for 14, could be gettable with Richmond having 8 first round picks.

Hannaford seems more likely.

 

[Mofra]

Looks pretty good from the footage I’ve seen. Reminds me a little of Cripps.

Older draftee, turns 19 in Feb. Possible concerns not a lot of room for development?

Is his draft range in the teens?

I've seen him in the teens or early 20s.

More than many drafts there is a big variance on how some people/clubs view the kids.
I've seen Xavier Lindsay all over the shop, and Sid Draper projects anywhere from pick 1 to outside the top 10 (I suspect Adelaide take him at pick 4 though).

I'm massive on Harvey Langford too. Probably goes around pick 5 but he may well end up the best player in the draft. Has that real "follow me" aspect to his game like Bont/Cripps.

 

[Ash1337]

190cm mid/fwd….Thats Matt Kennedy, maybe not explosive but he fills that spot along with Bont. Better fit for the roll than Macrae for half the money.

High half forwards in the Dylan Moore, Brent Daniels mold the most pressing need. Endurance, pace and footy IQ. Joe Berry would be ideal, can’t see him getting past Richmond at 14. Would love to see us trade future first for 14, could be gettable with Richmond having 8 first round picks.

Hannaford seems more likely.

Tigers don't have 14 anymore so that's not a problem.

 

[Dogman 1]

Kevin Sheehan put out a bit of a list today, can't remember their names but 2 Irish boys sound ok.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

I’d like us to get involved in Richmond trading out some of their 1st’s this year.

Our F1 for 10 or 11. Possibly throw in F3 (currently 48) if needed to get 10.

I still think getting as many high end picks this season is important for our list balance.

Picks 10/11, 17, 25 and 35 is a pretty good hand.

 

[JohnnySteel]

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I still think getting as many high end picks this season is important for our list balance.

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Agreed - getting a mix of Travaglia, Berry, Hotton, Hannaford, Clarke, Hynes, Davis would be massive for us.


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[dogwatch]

Agreed - getting a mix of Travaglia, Berry, Hotton, Hannaford, Clarke, Hynes, Davis would be massive for us.


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Hey JS, any chance you can adjust the settings on your phone or whatever? All your posts are coming up with lots of metadata etc which makes them borderline unreadable. That's a shame as you are a sensible poster.

Hmmm ... Is anyone else having this problem or is it just me?

I can send a screenshot if it isn't showing up like that on your own device.

 

[Dav1d]

IMHO if Hotton hadn’t done his ACL he would be one of the most dangerous midfielders in this draft year. A lot of accumulating type midfielders but Hotton creates opportunities with his touches

 

[Dav1d]

Hey JS, any chance you can adjust the settings on your phone or whatever? All your posts are coming up with lots of metadata etc which makes them borderline unreadable. That's a shame as you are a sensible poster.

Hmmm ... Is anyone else having this problem or is it just me?

I can send a screenshot if it isn't showing up like that on your own device.

It reads okay when you reply to it but yeah I see that to and I also use Bigfooty through iPhone

 

[TiAn_]

Alright, we have a couple of early picks now, time to fire up YouTube.

 

[Mojorisin]

I'm warming to the idea of Hynes with our first. He's a bit boom/bust but an explosive 190cm kid who has midfield scope but will start forward seems perfect for us.

I wouldn't go near Hynes with a first. I think he has a really high floor but has almost peaked physically, I think he ends up like Brodie Kemp style dependable third tall.