2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[stavro#4]

If i was Essendon, i'd do that trade. One pick eaten, one first rounder in the draft , one second rounder in the draft.

The second first round pick moves into the early 20s

 

[HeavenlySources]

Interesting takes from two who follow the draft and u-18 level closely a lot of the 'top' prospects from Cal's phantom form guide are sitting mid 30-40s

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

The guy who led us for intercept marks last year (and has been top 2 with Wilkie for the past three years) will be playing for Hawthorn next year, so I'd say so

All-Australian full-back? was Wilkes, sorry S.May is a full-back type still. Wilkes is great, not a full-back, maybe that don't matter now?

 

[jumperfan]

the doc's said paddy was right to go and he wasn't anymore susceptible, which any idiot could see was total BS, he'd get a love tap and be out for 3 weeks.. hard to trust docs after that debacle

If we'd done that we'd have been absolutely raked over the coals. The fact that Sydney were allowed to have him on their list at all was ridiculous.

 

[akaifu]

Anyone have any insights to the chance of Cole slipping into the rookie draft and the saints being able to automatically list him with our last rookie selection?

Unlikely imo. Someone will bid on him beyond pick 40

 

[akaifu]

Know alot of fans want mids in this draft, but with Hayes & Membrey likely? to leave, do we need more forward depth now.
Or do Caminiti & Keeler suffice, alongside King & Sharman.
For down back, our interest in Laverde & Tomlinson seems to have ebated, so do we need to draft a kid.
Armstrong & Tauru tested well at the combine & are seen as possible top ten's.
Would picking them at 7 & 8, be such a bad thing, best available & all.

You forgot to mention our saviour Zaine Cordy

 

[JediSaint]

Don't tease me.

Melbourne could definitely go for Armstrong if it's a pure need pick - depends on what the Dees want to do. Top 5 is usually a best available pick rather than a list needs pick, so it would be a big call to pick Armstrong at 5.

Also if they're in the mix for Pick 11 from Freo it seems more likely they'll go for a mid at 5 and Armstrong at 11

Seems Dees are in a mess and seems their mid stocks want out.
With talk Oliver going this year or Petracca next year.

Dees will draft a mid.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

You forgot to mention our saviour Zaine Cordy

He replaced Howard 2023, all was good. Then

 

[akaifu]

He replaced Howard 2023, all was good. Then

Led us to 8-3 as our spearhead full forward

 

[JediSaint]

Im saying that if GWS are willing to trade 9 for 15 and 16, why wouldn't essendon do it before draft night and then trade them both for future firsts.

15 and 16 would therefore be gone before a bid is made.

They are chasing a top ten pick in this draft.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Just on Smillie ... I posted a month or so back that a person I know who has close links with the Coates League told me that he has a bit of a FIGJAM rep and there were a few ?? around his work rate.

He is a bit of a classic man child in that his bigger body has meant he could easily impose himself on some of these smaller kids at a Coates League level but then he struggled to do the same against more quality line ups in the Champs ... all of a sudden there were a lot more others that were just prepared to work harder for longer at that higher level of football .... or maybe he was .. under weather?

As we know the mental side of the game is paramount for any kid to make it in the big league .... you might be better skilled and bigger bodied but if you aren't prepared to work hard enough for long enough or just don't have the mental fortitude to fight on and keep up then .... you are going to get left behind pretty quickly

I don't know Smillie and I haven't seen enough of him live but there seems to be some ??s around his mental attitude ..... is he a classic case of a big fish in a small pond at youth levels?

Because he is about get thrown into a lot larger pond with a lot larger fish ...and if you don't have the hunger, the attitude and the ability to really really crack in .... you are gunna get devoured

Is it true that RTB interviewed him personally?

Very interesting if so .... maybe he DE-FIGJAMMED him

 

[JediSaint]

If we need fatten our draft hand to
1. Pick up Hoffman, Peckett, Cole
2. Sweeten the deal with ESS #9

Couldn’t we trade F2 to either GWS or GC as they have a loaded draft haul and both need points for next year to pick up their academy kids.

 

[JediSaint]

Just on Smillie ... I posted a month or so back that a person I know who has close links with the Coates League told me that he has a bit of a FIGJAM rep and there were a few ?? around his work rate.

He is a bit of a classic man child in that his bigger body has meant he could easily impose himself on some of these smaller kids at a Coates League level but then he struggled to do the same against more quality line ups in the Champs ... all of a sudden there were a lot more others that were just prepared to work harder for longer at that higher level of football .... or maybe he was .. under weather?

As we know the mental side of the game is paramount for any kid to make it in the big league .... you might be better skilled and bigger bodied but if you aren't prepared to work hard enough for long enough or just don't have the mental fortitude to fight on and keep up then .... you are going to get left behind pretty quickly

I don't know Smillie and I haven't seen enough of him live but there seems to be some ??s around his mental attitude ..... is he a classic case of a big fish in a small pond at youth levels?

Because he is about get thrown into a lot larger pond with a lot larger fish ...and if you don't have the hunger, the attitude and the ability to really really crack in .... you are gunna get devoured

Is it true that RTB interviewed him personally?

Very interesting if so .... maybe he DE-FIGJAMMED him

There was mention on Smille on just this in an article after the nationals.
He couldn’t use his size like he normally can and went missing in the games. As you’re saying his mental side of the game might still need to be developed.

 

[austinnn]

Rumours from the weekend are that North absolutely love Tauru.

I reckon they trade down to 6.

1. Fos Richmond
2. Lalor Richmond
3. Jagga Eagles
4. Draper crows
5. Langford/Armstrong Dees
6. Tauru North
7. Smillie Saints.

I can see Tigers going for FOS, but reckon they'll take Jagga over Lalor, and I can see Eagles taking Lalor, if they don't and the Dees are still at pick 5, they'll pick Lalor over a tall, they can't afford to rely on Oliver or Petracca going forward.

Think you might be on the money otherwise.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

There was mention on Smille on just this in an article after the nationals.
He couldn’t use his size like he normally can and went missing in the games. As you’re saying his mental side of the game might still need to be developed.

Just trying to reason why he struggled in the Championships .... doesn't look like he plays with crazy manic energy and bounce from stoppage to stoppage ..... its like once the pressure and speed of the game ramps and becomes super competitive (like you probably get in the Champ games compared to Coates League or AFL games compared to VFL) then he struggles.

There is no rest in todays football ... mids always have to be on the move ... lots of repeat sprints .... lots of stoppage to stoppage to stoppage .... you just can't switch off mentally and rely on your body size and skills

Is it harder to develop physical skills or mental skills?

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

Clubs, particularly Saint Kilda, will be spooked by Trainor’s concussion, he could experience Arie levels of sliding

Arie's a moron, heard info recently I wont mention, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it purely from off field stuff, also he's slow and doesn't defend. Sorry to put a dampener on the arie train but im tempering expectations. I guess both their issues are above their shoulders

 

[Sarcoidevo]

I can see Tigers going for FOS, but reckon they'll take Jagga over Lalor, and I can see Eagles taking Lalor, if they don't and the Dees are still at pick 5, they'll pick Lalor over a tall, they can't afford to rely on Oliver or Petracca going forward.

Think you might be on the money otherwise.

I think I am leaning towards Stav's thinking

FOS is the best player (injuries didn't see him at his best this year) but he ticks all boxes

If Tigers get 2 as well I reckon they go a bigger body ... Lalor gives off Dusty vibes who is fresh in the mind of Richmond ... POD to FOS .... also Langford could be considered and word is they like him ... I think they would go Laor but if they don't get pick 2 and stay with pick 6 then Langford comes into play at that pick

West Coast at pick 3 ... its Jagga here for me ....... apparently good friends with Harley Reid and he is a POD to him ... they would compliment each other nicely ... Lalor is probably too much like Harley so they may want a different type

Draper goes to Adelaide though WC might consider him

North look locked into Tauru by all accounts so the idea of dropping back for pick 6 and another decent pick for pick 2 makes sense ... unless of course Melbourne grab Tauru at 5 ... so a little risk there

Melbourne .... who the fk knows .... probably mid but could be tall ... hopefully tall which leaves us whatever mids are left

Langford / Smillie / Reid / Lindsay / Travaglia and whoever else

I doubt FOS / Lalor / Jagga / Draper fall to us

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Arie's a moron, heard info recently I wont mention, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it purely from off field stuff, also he's slow and doesn't defend. Sorry to put a dampener on the arie train but im tempering expectations. I guess both their issues are above their shoulders

Some kids just can't be saved from themselves

 

[MightySaintas]

Plenty of morons on afl lists and playing great footy

 

[Saintbloke]

Just on Smillie ... I posted a month or so back that a person I know who has close links with the Coates League told me that he has a bit of a FIGJAM rep and there were a few ?? around his work rate.

He is a bit of a classic man child in that his bigger body has meant he could easily impose himself on some of these smaller kids at a Coates League level but then he struggled to do the same against more quality line ups in the Champs ... all of a sudden there were a lot more others that were just prepared to work harder for longer at that higher level of football .... or maybe he was .. under weather?

As we know the mental side of the game is paramount for any kid to make it in the big league .... you might be better skilled and bigger bodied but if you aren't prepared to work hard enough for long enough or just don't have the mental fortitude to fight on and keep up then .... you are going to get left behind pretty quickly

I don't know Smillie and I haven't seen enough of him live but there seems to be some ??s around his mental attitude ..... is he a classic case of a big fish in a small pond at youth levels?

Because he is about get thrown into a lot larger pond with a lot larger fish ...and if you don't have the hunger, the attitude and the ability to really really crack in .... you are gunna get devoured

Is it true that RTB interviewed him personally?

Very interesting if so .... maybe he DE-FIGJAMMED him

The AFL ranks are full of FIGJAMs young and old, and always have been, so nothing new here...move on

 

[triggering bro]

Just on Smillie ... I posted a month or so back that a person I know who has close links with the Coates League told me that he has a bit of a FIGJAM rep and there were a few ?? around his work rate.

He is a bit of a classic man child in that his bigger body has meant he could easily impose himself on some of these smaller kids at a Coates League level but then he struggled to do the same against more quality line ups in the Champs ... all of a sudden there were a lot more others that were just prepared to work harder for longer at that higher level of football .... or maybe he was .. under weather?

As we know the mental side of the game is paramount for any kid to make it in the big league .... you might be better skilled and bigger bodied but if you aren't prepared to work hard enough for long enough or just don't have the mental fortitude to fight on and keep up then .... you are going to get left behind pretty quickly

I don't know Smillie and I haven't seen enough of him live but there seems to be some ??s around his mental attitude ..... is he a classic case of a big fish in a small pond at youth levels?

Because he is about get thrown into a lot larger pond with a lot larger fish ...and if you don't have the hunger, the attitude and the ability to really really crack in .... you are gunna get devoured

Is it true that RTB interviewed him personally?

Very interesting if so .... maybe he DE-FIGJAMMED him

Interesting. I listened to his interview yesterday and he was extremely articulate and showed a lot of self reflection on his shortcomings and need for constant improvement. Granted it came across as it was drafted by his manager. If anything, he came across as having an extremely entitled upbringing, but that’s not his fault.

 

[stavro#4]

I can see Tigers going for FOS, but reckon they'll take Jagga over Lalor, and I can see Eagles taking Lalor, if they don't and the Dees are still at pick 5, they'll pick Lalor over a tall, they can't afford to rely on Oliver or Petracca going forward.

Think you might be on the money otherwise.

I think I am leaning towards Stav's thinking

FOS is the best player (injuries didn't see him at his best this year) but he ticks all boxes

If Tigers get 2 as well I reckon they go a bigger body ... Lalor gives off Dusty vibes who is fresh in the mind of Richmond ... POD to FOS .... also Langford could be considered and word is they like him ... I think they would go Laor but if they don't get pick 2 and stay with pick 6 then Langford comes into play at that pick

West Coast at pick 3 ... its Jagga here for me ....... apparently good friends with Harley Reid and he is a POD to him ... they would compliment each other nicely ... Lalor is probably too much like Harley so they may want a different type

Draper goes to Adelaide though WC might consider him

North look locked into Tauru by all accounts so the idea of dropping back for pick 6 and another decent pick for pick 2 makes sense ... unless of course Melbourne grab Tauru at 5 ... so a little risk there

Melbourne .... who the fk knows .... probably mid but could be tall ... hopefully tall which leaves us whatever mids are left

Langford / Smillie / Reid / Lindsay / Travaglia and whoever else

I doubt FOS / Lalor / Jagga / Draper fall to us

According to Cal & The Age.

Tigers top 2 is FOS and Lalor and they want both.

 

[sufficientintent]

Seems Dees are in a mess and seems their mid stocks want out.
With talk Oliver going this year or Petracca next year.

Dees will draft a mid.

Trac Oliver Viney Windsor Tholstrup will all be on the Dees list next year. Trent Rivers will play midfield time. If they don't trade Oliver this year they are prime to draft a key forward, and then trade Oliver/Trac next year for a king's ransom and start the rebuild with mids.

They could really go either way at this stage. I suspect if they get back into the first round with pick 9 or pick 11, then they will draft a mid at 5 and KPF at 11

 

[sufficientintent]

According to Cal & The Age.

Tigers top 2 is FOS and Lalor and they want both.

It's a good top 2, but you've gotta feel for Jagga Smith.

Running around in the Richmond VFL team getting leather poisoning every week and still not even in the conversation for them

 

[stavro#4]

It's a good top 2, but you've gotta feel for Jagga Smith.

Running around in the Richmond VFL team getting leather poisoning every week and still not even in the conversation for them

Probably to do with hurt factor.

What FOS did in the second quarter of the Sandy VFL game was burnt into my head.