List Mgmt. 2024 Draft Thread

[Rubber Hips]

Gees Cadman is a bloody goody player

 

[THE_GUN]

would love to see comparisons to Dunkley , Oliver , Bont and cripps athletic and physical stats at the same age
im just no good finding these things

 

[THE_GUN]

Gees Cadman is a bloody goody player

5 years later we will get him as a free agent

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

3.2 for 20m sprint is slow.

Comprehension not your strong suit?

 

[TigerTime88]

Comprehension not your strong suit?

If you are that slow over the first 20 then it's pointless.

"Hang on guys I just need a run up at this stoppage"

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

If you are that slow over the first 20 then it's pointless.

"Hang on guys I just need a run up at this stoppage"

It's pointless if you're reliant on pace to burst away from a stoppage which Langford is not. He reads the ball better than most and knows how to find space and work around his initial lack of burst. He is an elite runner on the spread.

Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

 

[Lord of the Wings]

… you have no idea

You’re got no farken idea either

 

[Ctl]

The issue for Langford isn't that he's neccesarily slow, it's that we already have Taranto, Hopper, Ross, Prestia, Mcauliffe. Unless we are happy to trade out a couple of them we need to draft mids with speed and a point of difference

 

[_RT_]

While I understand the desire to have speed, it doesn't always mean that the player will be a good player. Take a look at the 20m sprint winners since 2000

2000	2.82	Luke Livingston
2001	2.83	Nathan Street & Mark Dubyna
2002	2.83	Jared Brennan
2003	2.85	Michael Pettigrew
2004	2.79	Danyle Pearce
2005	2.83	Matt Laidlaw
2006	2.83	Nathan Krakouer
2007*	2.83	David Gourdis
2008	2.80	Ashley Smith
2009	2.88	Ayden Kennedy
2010	2.75	Joel Wilkinson
2011	2.86	Shannon Taylor & Ahmed Saad
2012	2.81	Adam Saad
201 3	2.78	Jonathon Marsh
2014	2.81	Marvin Baynham
2015	2.88	Alex Morgan & [PLAYERCARD]Kurt Mutimer[/PLAYERCARD]
2016	2.87	Jacob Allison
2017	2.87	Jack Petruccelle
2018	2.904	Tom McKenzie
2019	2.867	Sam Philp
2020	best was a wind-aided 2.779 by Reef McInnes
2021	2.845	Harvey Harrison
2022	2.81	Edward Allan
2023	2.871	Aiden O'Driscoll

Not many of them that would be rated as top talents

 

[TigerTime88]

While I understand the desire to have speed, it doesn't always mean that the player will be a good player. Take a look at the 20m sprint winners since 2000

2000	2.82	Luke Livingston
2001	2.83	Nathan Street & Mark Dubyna
2002	2.83	Jared Brennan
2003	2.85	Michael Pettigrew
2004	2.79	Danyle Pearce
2005	2.83	Matt Laidlaw
2006	2.83	Nathan Krakouer
2007*	2.83	David Gourdis
2008	2.80	Ashley Smith
2009	2.88	Ayden Kennedy
2010	2.75	Joel Wilkinson
2011	2.86	Shannon Taylor & Ahmed Saad
2012	2.81	Adam Saad
201 3	2.78	Jonathon Marsh
2014	2.81	Marvin Baynham
2015	2.88	Alex Morgan & Kurt Mutimer
2016	2.87	Jacob Allison
2017	2.87	Jack Petruccelle
2018	2.904	Tom McKenzie
2019	2.867	Sam Philp
2020	best was a wind-aided 2.779 by Reef McInnes
2021	2.845	Harvey Harrison
2022	2.81	Edward Allan
2023	2.871	Aiden O'Driscoll

Not many of them that would be rated as top talents

It's not necessarily about being stupid quick, but not being on the other end. A better list would be guys who made it that ran north of 3.2.

Game gets quicker at AFL level and watching the game right now the finals get quicker again. If you're that slow then you'll get caught, be rushed ect more often. Personally I would we draft others with such a high pick who are in the similar ranked but have a touch more speed.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

It always took Usain Bolt at least 20m to wind up

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

It's not necessarily about being stupid quick, but not being on the other end. A better list would be guys who made it that ran north of 3.2.

Game gets quicker at AFL level and watching the game right now the finals get quicker again. If you're that slow then you'll get caught, be rushed ect more often. Personally I would we draft others with such a high pick who are in the similar ranked but have a touch more speed.

Two best midfielders in the game. Cripps 3.23 and Bontempelli 3.2. Can we move on now.

 

[THE_GUN]

Neil Erasmus is a player that is a similar size and position to Langford that was drafted with pick #10 just after Gibcus
getting a sh!t load of football and killing it at WAFL but struggles due to pace at AFL level

Things just happen so much faster and the speed required to cover ground quickly is what can make or break a player
Not all players with ball winning ability but lack of pace become a Cripps/Dunkley/Bont

there are alot of Brodie's drafted top 10

 

[richoatthedisco]

Geez, Bont looked slow last night.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Can anyone supply me with some quality Jack Ough videos?

 

[_RT_]

It's not necessarily about being stupid quick, but not being on the other end. A better list would be guys who made it that ran north of 3.2.

Game gets quicker at AFL level and watching the game right now the finals get quicker again. If you're that slow then you'll get caught, be rushed ect more often. Personally I would we draft others with such a high pick who are in the similar ranked but have a touch more speed.

For me, speed isn't as important as the ability to find/win the footy, power & agility around the contest and the ability to run harder and longer than the opposition when it comes to midfielders/flankers. Those things were the cornerstone of our premierships. So for me what I want us to focus on are players who can do that and there are plenty of options in the draft this year that fit that bill.

I've seen many posters saying that we need speed, which we do, but we shouldn't be focusing on speedy types, we need to be bringing in a group that compliment each others strengths.

I mentioned yesterday that I wouldn't be shocked to find that our top 3 ranked players at the draft are Langford O'Sullivan & Smith (not in that order) because all 3 of them fit that description above and they compliment each other with the differences in the way they play the game. To me landing those 3 would be the perfect outcome from the draft.

 

[docko911]

For me, speed isn't as important as the ability to find/win the footy, power & agility around the contest and the ability to run harder and longer than the opposition when it comes to midfielders/flankers. Those things were the cornerstone of our premierships. So for me what I want us to focus on are players who can do that and there are plenty of options in the draft this year that fit that bill.

I've seen many posters saying that we need speed, which we do, but we shouldn't be focusing on speedy types, we need to be bringing in a group that compliment each others strengths.

I mentioned yesterday that I wouldn't be shocked to find that our top 3 ranked players at the draft are Langford O'Sullivan & Smith (not in that order) because all 3 of them fit that description above and they compliment each other with the differences in the way they play the game. To me landing those 3 would be the perfect outcome from the draft.

It would make sense for us to go after pick 3 if we wanted those 3. Of course we would probably need to keep 6 unless we know Langford won’t get picked up higher than 9/10.

 

[blaisee]

Full time Falcons v Rebels

Jack Ough 32 disposals 14 kicks 18 handballs 4 marks 1 tackle 7 I50s 2 FF 2 FA
Xavier Ivisic 24 disposals 18 kicks 6 handballs 4 marks 3 tackles 8 I50s 2 R50s 1 FF 2 FA
Jonty Faull 15 disposals 15 kicks 4 marks 2 tackles 1 hitouts 3 I50 4.2
Lachie Jacques 14 disposals 12 kicks 2 handballs 3 marks 3 tackles 3 I50 3 R50
Ollie Hannaford 15 disposals 12 kicks 3 handballs 3 marks 3 I50 1 R50 6 goals

Thought Hannaford stood out today , little bit of mongrel good pace smart forward

Also a fan of ough thought he was the ruckman for a while , he is massive , just kept getting clearances

 

[THE_GUN]

It would make sense for us to go after pick 3 if we wanted those 3. Of course we would probably need to keep 6 unless we know Langford won’t get picked up higher than 9/10.

Only way we get #3 is if it involves Baker +#9
Pick #2 imo from north would be easier to obtain as they are a eager seller to get to #6 but thats not a pick i would be selling to move up

 

[Sol23]

But that is at junior level, how's he goung to go in the midfield with 4 blokes bigger and stronger than him?

Stupid comment

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Stupid comment

Not really, he's short for a mid and will get battered like small mids do.
We won't be taking him at pick one champ.

 

[Bojangles17]

How many 18 year old mids do we want? Especially, given that no. 1 next draft is a mid as well.

Put 6 x top 25 on our list , if 3-4 look like being guns we ll be right , don’t you worry about that

 

[guruisatiger]

Can anyone supply me with some quality Jack Ough videos?

Try pawn hub

 

[tigs2010]

Can anyone supply me with some quality Jack Ough videos?

Home videos count?

 

[TiggerDK]

Including baker in a draft pick upgrade trade is pretty much giving baker away for nothing.
Would much rather get pick 18 or something and get an extra 18 year old in this deep draft.
Who can be sure that pick 3 will end up better than pick 9? Plenty of history to show it doesn’t always end up that way.