Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[Brant]

Yeah I know he is but what I’m saying if we want a player then sometimes we do what we have to get a players like we did Wingard and JOM.

No, I'm not saying we'd never want to lose Nash. I mean it's insane that Footscab would try to trade us for:
a. An inside midfielder at Nash's age, &,
b. A Free Agent.

 

[wizzard400]

The Dee’s starting picking up guns once there was some A Grade youngsters to work with.

May, Lever etc etc turned up to Melbourne when they were battling.

If the pieces are in place you can sell the dream, and of course if the cash is available you should be able to attract A Grade talent.

Not really. Lever joined Melbourne after they finished 9th and May joined them after they made a prelim.

 

[HedgeFund]

That is why we are keen on trading a first in. I hear Geelong already interested in Worpel. Hawks would drive a hard bargain, if at all, but a Geelong first and second might be on the table. Or swap him for Holmes and forget about Smith?

Geelong won’t be swapping Holmes for Worpel

 

[MasterSamurai]

Geelong won’t be swapping Holmes for Worpel

Rather keep worpel than swap for Holmes.

 

[Dewnior]

Rather keep worpel than swap for Holmes.

Cue the little Mexican girl

 

[The hands of stone]

Rather keep worpel than swap for Holmes.

Holmes is a priority for the Cats. Will move and retire others to keep him

 

[The Seaword]

The rebuild is moving along quickly. Just waiting for players to have game experience.

Mackenzie game last week against the cat was his best so far.

I think the point is valid though, we aren’t seeing large qty of “elite” glimpses in this group. Our 97-98 rebuild happened fairly quickly, had good players but did lead to total dis function in 02/03/04. Not many rising star noms either at the moment which isn’t the be all and end all but another indication.

You could even say we are behind versus the 97/98 rebuild as we don’t have the famous “spine” coming through that group had.

This is going to take a lot longer than most people think. We need more elite talent coming in the draft which helps attract all those elite free agents we think we are in the market for. Why would Sam Taylor leave a club vying for premierships to finish bottom 5 repeatedly?

 

[earthworms]

I think the point is valid though, we aren’t seeing large qty of “elite” glimpses in this group. Our 97-98 rebuild happened fairly quickly, had good players but did lead to total dis function in 02/03/04. Not many rising star noms either at the moment which isn’t the be all and end all but another indication.

You could even say we are behind versus the 97/98 rebuild as we don’t have the famous “spine” coming through that group had.

This is going to take a lot longer than most people think. We need more elite talent coming in the draft which helps attract all those elite free agents we think we are in the market for. Why would Sam Taylor leave a club vying for premierships to finish bottom 5 repeatedly?

Agreed, we need to hit the draft hard one more time and get a top 3 pick this year. Our highest pick so far has been 5 and the top 3 are where you find your jamarras, JHFs, Walshes, Daicoses who are elite players.

 

[tl92]

I think the point is valid though, we aren’t seeing large qty of “elite” glimpses in this group. Our 97-98 rebuild happened fairly quickly, had good players but did lead to total dis function in 02/03/04. Not many rising star noms either at the moment which isn’t the be all and end all but another indication.

You could even say we are behind versus the 97/98 rebuild as we don’t have the famous “spine” coming through that group had.

This is going to take a lot longer than most people think. We need more elite talent coming in the draft which helps attract all those elite free agents we think we are in the market for. Why would Sam Taylor leave a club vying for premierships to finish bottom 5 repeatedly?

I mean he would be the highest paid player in the competition, playing for the club he supported as a kid, for a big Victorian team that plays at the MCG. Not saying it’ll happen but there are some factors you’re overlooking.

 

[Billyc]

Comparing this rebuild to past rebuilds is irrelevant. Different number of clubs in the competition, different draft rules, so many variables.

Compare us to the lists and teams being built by other clubs right now. That’s what matters. We have some good parts but not many objective observers would choose our list as being one of the top few for sustained success. There’s plenty of work to be done.

 

[2008wasoverDEW!]

As mentioned above, our spine is a problem. Other than Mitchell Lewis

2

Mitchell Lewis

Age

27

Ht

199cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

5.9

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.2

4star

D

4.3

1star

K

2.8

1star

HB

1.5

1star

M

0.8

1star

T

0.3

1star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.6

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.6

3star

, we have seriously lacked quality key position players for far too long. We will struggle to show significant improvement until we address this area of our list.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

I think the point is valid though, we aren’t seeing large qty of “elite” glimpses in this group. Our 97-98 rebuild happened fairly quickly, had good players but did lead to total dis function in 02/03/04. Not many rising star noms either at the moment which isn’t the be all and end all but another indication.

You could even say we are behind versus the 97/98 rebuild as we don’t have the famous “spine” coming through that group had.

This is going to take a lot longer than most people think. We need more elite talent coming in the draft which helps attract all those elite free agents we think we are in the market for. Why would Sam Taylor leave a club vying for premierships to finish bottom 5 repeatedly?

It’s a bit early in some of the lads careers to know if they’re going to be elite or not!

I’d like us to hit the draft again, but it is not all doom and gloom.

Hopefully we can collect a couple of decent F/A along the way.

 

[smish]

As mentioned above, our spine is a problem. Other than Mitchell Lewis, we have seriously lacked quality key position players for far too long. We will struggle to show significant improve until we improve this area of our list.

Seeing Serong at training yesterday he was looking strong. I reckon he could really come on as a 2nd tall in a few years if we don’t get Battle/Melican.

 

[The Seaword]

I mean he would be the highest paid player in the competition, playing for the club he supported as a kid, for a big Victorian team that plays at the MCG. Not saying it’ll happen but there are some factors you’re overlooking.

If you looked at the majority of FA movement it’s to play in finals and premierships not fairytale kid dreams. Such cases are normally after success has been achieved ie ginnivan. Why did buddy choose Swans over giants? lure of premierships, daniher left bombers when Brisbane on cusp etc. very rarely players leave just for big money to play in shit teams.

 

[arupist]

If you looked at the majority of FA movement it’s to play in finals and premierships not fairytale kid dreams. Such cases are normally after success has been achieved ie ginnivan. Why did buddy choose Swans over giants? lure of premierships, daniher left bombers when Brisbane on cusp etc. very rarely players leave just for big money to play in s**t teams.

What are you saying here? Hawks are in with a good chance?

Oh, and Ben McKay says Hi!

 

[tl92]

If you looked at the majority of FA movement it’s to play in finals and premierships not fairytale kid dreams. Such cases are normally after success has been achieved ie ginnivan. Why did buddy choose Swans over giants? lure of premierships, daniher left bombers when Brisbane on cusp etc. very rarely players leave just for big money to play in s**t teams.

I agree will be a tough sell unless we are showing an upward trajectory.

 

[mustang]

It’s a bit early in some of the lads careers to know if they’re going to be elite or not!

I’d like us to hit the draft again, but it is not all doom and gloom.

Hopefully we can collect a couple of decent F/A along the way.

We can get a lot free agents to fill the gaps but they come on an increased contract price.

Then you have a salary cap busting at the seams like Carlton/Saints etc was by getting so many free agents.

 

[HoldingThe Ball]

Gee Mac Andrew moves up the list of targets a few spots?

Fantastic game today.

 

[killerspud]

Yes and no.

McKay was a bombers fan as a kid, who lives on that side of town. Was he ever really interested in moving to Hawthorn? Not sure we’d ever really know, but it’s likely he was always set on Essendon.

Taylor grew up a big time Hawk fan, who is now playing in front of no one most weeks.
Would he like to play at the MCG for the club he followed as a kid? Maybe.

Offer him 6-8 years on 1m+ and he might very well be interested to play for his boy hood club under a player he loved, regardless of our wins column.

Worth a shot, and not outside the realms of belief that he might be interested in a move.

This scenario becomes far more realistic if the giants win the flag - so lets hope for a big big sound come september

 

[The hands of stone]

We can get a lot free agents to fill the gaps but they come on an increased contract price.

Then you have a salary cap busting at the seams like Carlton/Saints etc was by getting so many free agents.

Thats the idea of FA . You have cap space a top side doesnt have , you pay the premium to get the player you want.

If the cap is bursting and your contending like Carlton now , you absolute would take that .

 

[The hands of stone]

This scenario becomes far more realistic if the giants win the flag - so lets hope for a big big sound come september

Dont underestimate where AFL is going in relation to other pro sports .
It will happen sooner than later a player will move to a lower side for a large contract and the sell of a good side in a few years
Then the floodgates will open .

Hopefully its us who do it .

 

[tl92]

Mac Andrew had a career best game today. Surely he’s one we’d be looking at. I did notice he follows a heap of hawks players on instagram

 

[Wingnut19]

Mac Andrew had a career best game today. Surely he’s one we’d be looking at. I did notice he follows a heap of hawks players on instagram

Is he OOC?

 

[Bugs1977]

If you looked at the majority of FA movement it’s to play in finals and premierships not fairytale kid dreams. Such cases are normally after success has been achieved ie ginnivan. Why did buddy choose Swans over giants? lure of premierships, daniher left bombers when Brisbane on cusp etc. very rarely players leave just for big money to play in s**t teams.

The solution is simple in that we need to give Sam the vision by starting to win some games and show him that we're gonna be successful

 

[The Seaword]

What are you saying here? Hawks are in with a good chance?

Oh, and Ben McKay says Hi!

Sold false hope!