2024 Ladder Predictions

[Tiger2709]

Whys everyone thinking Geelong will drop right off again ?

Look at their list, it doesn't look to be getting better next year than this year where they finished 12th. They still rely on their older players to win games and those players will be another year older, much the same as Richmond this year really, doesn't mean they wont bounce back fairly quickly but its hard to see them in the top 8 in 2024.

 

[Tiger2709]

Collingwood
Brisbane
GWS
Carlton
Sydney
Geelong
Adelaide
Gold Coast

Melbourne
Port Adelaide
Bulldogs
St Kilda
Hawthorn
Fremantle
Essendon
NM
WCE

Can't see Collingwood or Brisbane slipping, but I'm backing the surprise prelim finalists to be the two that join them. Geelong and Sydney with better injury runs and fixture lists should have a smoother ride. Adelaide looked on the cusp. Dimma to get the Suns to breakthrough to finals football, at last.

Some slippery rides for the 4 I've picked just outside the 8, as a controversial addition. Straight sets usually doesn't bare well. St Kilda could easily have have a hiccup season before taking a step forward in 2025 and Bevo's Dogs love to frustrate.

I know you Cats don't like the Tigers much but kicking us out of the comp is a bit much?

 

[timokane]

Mine:

1. Pies
2. GWS
3. Lions
4. Crows
5. blues
6. suns
7. port
8. dees/dogs/stkilda/freo

to miss and miss easy are:

essendon
swans
cats
hawks
tigers
roos
eagles

would not surprise me that port and dees miss

crows and suns the big bolter both gws and lions top 4
blues still in 5th

 

[timokane]

got a collingwood v gws gf
i sense a collingwood v carlton preliminary tho

 

[OniAu]

Look at their list, it doesn't look to be getting better next year than this year where they finished 12th. They still rely on their older players to win games and those players will be another year older, much the same as Richmond this year really, doesn't mean they wont bounce back fairly quickly but its hard to see them in the top 8 in 2024.

People have them listed as 18th. Plus were two games from the 8 , id back them in to make it more than not. Youth is so over rated

 

[Blackhawk42]

GF - Collingwood def Brisbane by 4pts

I've seen this movie before.

 

[Monco Matt]

It's a little early to settle on my ladder prediction, but there are some positions I can lock in right now with supreme confidence. They are as follows:

1. Collingwood
2-17. ???
18. Carlton

That is all.

 

[adammania9]

1. Brisbane Lions - I don’t expect the GF defeat to rock the club. They’ve got a list dominated by primed and emerging talent, with a strong home ground advantage, and now a big chip on their shoulder. Doedee is an astute acquisition.
2. GWS Giants - head into 2024 with a stacked defence, wonderful midfield and a combative attack, led by a wonderful coach. They were very stiff not to make a grand final from 7th, suffering only their third defeat in their back 14 games. They’ve arrived and will contend at the top end.
3. Collingwood - will begin to feel the pinch of their older brigade beginning their decline, and a shortened pre-season might set back their early premiership defence. However, McRae has proven to be a master coach capable of getting good footy out of ordinary players and I expect to see them compete once more.
4. Adelaide - the Crows have done all the right things since their dismal 2020 season and I think Nicks is a very underrated coach. With a hint of luck, the Crows would have finished top six in 2023 with a young back line that can only improve, and a potentially dominant forward line. Even if Walker drops back to a 40 goal forward next year, I see enough talent there to score big.
5. Carlton - will welcome Williams back into defence, and Walsh is expected to complete his first pre-season since 2021. Their bottom ten have finally stepped up to support their top echelon of players, and I expect a more consistent season from the Blues.
6. Geelong - a poor pre-season following their 2022 premiership set Geelong up for failure in ’23. They were injury plagued all year and a large number of key players missed three or more games. Big pre-seasons from Guthrie, Dangerfield will turn their VFL level midfield back into a competitive one. Their bookends are still very reliable and a number of depth players will look to get back to their ’22 form.
7. St Kilda - I think it’s a really solid list that can finish top 6 again. Owens, Wanganeen-Milera and Phillipou all display star potential, and they have three All-Australian quality players (Wilkie, Sinclair, Marshall) with King and Steele capable of massive things also. Can Ross get the best out of their players forward of centre? He did a good job this year, but they can’t do a Fremantle and go back to 14th.
8. Melbourne - as a Collingwood supporter, I saw great similarities between the Melbourne premiership side of 2021 and the Pies side of 2010, and the two seasons that have since followed. To me, I see a coach that isn’t getting the most of a talented list and they are sadly wasting the prime years of a number of stars. I think the ship has sailed at Melbourne, and they need to get creative over the next couple of years to have another serious crack at success.

9. Sydney Swans - the Swans’ drop off this year was hardly surprising given the number of games played by their key position talls from 2022. McCartin and Rampe played just 30 games between them, Hickey played 12 and fell away significantly. Franklin declined with only 13 games played, and Reid didn’t play a game at all. Grundy solves the ruck issue, but I'm not convinced by their KPP depth and Mills is a significant omission.
10. Port Adelaide - a straight sets exit is a crushing blow to a side devoid of young talent outside of the midfield. I think the decision to re-sign Hinkley was a dismal one, and I do not rate any of their linked acquisitions. Their midfield is brilliant but can it save an aging forward group and underwhelming defence?
11. Fremantle - I think this side could make a real leap if Hayden Young

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3.4

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3.2

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1.4

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CL

0.2

2star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.6

3star

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3.4

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M

3.2

3star

T

1.4

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0.2

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10.0

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6.6

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can become a permanently effective line-breaking midfielder, and the likes of Chapman and Johnson kick on. I can’t say I think much of Longmuir though, and find his game plans stale and ineffective against better teams. Things could go very right, or very wrong.
12. Hawthorn - I have complete faith in Sam Mitchell to get the Hawks back to the promised land, but they’re probably a year off finals yet. Their young midfield is already stacked with a good back line to support. Forward options aren’t there to score enough to win lots of games. I expect steady, linear improvement from a young side building great chemistry.
13. Western Bulldogs - struggling to see significant improvement from anybody aside from Ugle-Hagan. Treloar and Macrae’s best football is dwindling, Weightman remains the only AFL-quality small forward on the list, with awful outside running options and absolutely no promising young midfielders beyond the stagnating Smith.
14. Essendon - saw this episode in 2017. McKay is a good pick-up but Gresham and Goldstein will offer little to improve a Bombers side that ran out of life at the bye. Their defence is too slow to move the footy, and the midfielders don’t have much to kick to. I’ve been fooled enough by Essendon before and will wait to believe it when I see it that they are a good football side.
15. Gold Coast - Rome wasn’t built in a day and when I see the Suns go out in round 24 and lose to North Melbourne like they did, I still believe this side lacks any serious mental fortitude to compete for finals. Hardwick is big and will install the will to play for the coach within the group, but they’re at least another year away from finals.
16. Richmond - 16th is ugly but I at least expect to be very competitive for most of the year without getting the chocolates. I think they’ll be playing far too many kids who aren’t near 50 career games yet, and their high-prized Giants recruits have not saved the midfield from mediocrity. They will welcome back Lynch with open arms but he won’t steady the ship on his own.
17. West Coast - enough upside by expecting the club won’t repeat a horror injury run for the third straight year.
18. North Melbourne - bottom would frustrate the supporters massively but it can’t be understated from how far back this side is coming, and with Logue and McKay not playable, they will concede big scores. I don’t trust Xerri or Coleman-Jones to ever become good rucks, and Larkey doesn’t have any tall support up front.

 

[Mr Meow]

I know you Cats don't like the Tigers much but kicking us out of the comp is a bit much?

But I do have you winning the VFL!

 

[Corn Cobbers]

1. Collingwood
2. Brisbane
3. GWS
4. Gold Coast
5. Carlton
6. Adelaide
7. Port Adelaide
8. Hawthorn
9. Sydney
10 Melbourne
11 North Melbourne
12 St Kilda
13 Western Bulldogs
14 Essendon
15 Geelong
16 Richmond
17 Fremantle
18 West Coast

 

[Daka]

I hope some of you guys are right and we are down the bottom because we will get a high top pick, but I honestly think we will be more middle of the road anywhere from 7th-14th, I do not think we will be bottom 4.

Our top end is still very good and that will keep us off the bottom 4 the likes of Bolton, Dusty, Taranto, Prestia, Hopper, Rioli, Lynch, Vlaustin & Baker.

 

[HBFlanker]

1. Carlton
2. Brisbane
3. GWS
4. Adelaide
5. Collingwood
6. Sydney
7. Port Adelaide
8. Gold Coast

9. Melbourne
10. Western Bulldogs
11. Geelong
12. St.Kilda
13. Richmond
14. North Melbourne
15. Essendon
16. Fremantle
17. Hawthorn
18. West Coast

 

[Fadge]

My first thoughts are there are four teams who can't make the top 8:
West Coast
North Melbourne
Richmond
Geelong

Reckon Adelaide are certainties to make the 8.

Carlton will open up juicy odds to miss the top 8, which I will be taking advantage of.

 

[Danw0w]

A lot of hate for Richmond here lol. So much jealousy on this website..

 

[Danw0w]

1. Dees
2. Port
3. Essendon
4. Richmond
5. West Coast
6. Sydney
7. Carlton
8. Saints
9. Collingwood
10. Adelaide
11. Freo
12. GWS
13. Geelong
14. Brisbane
15. Gold Coast
16. Hawks
17. Bulldogs
18. North

 

[PizzaPie]

1. GWS
2. Collingwood
3. Brisbane
4. Geelong
   
   
5. Carlton
6. Adelaide
7. St Kilda
8. Fremantle
   
   
9. Melbourne
10. Western Bulldogs
11. Sydney
12. Port Adelaide
    
    
13. Hawthorn
14. Gold Coast
15. Essendon
16. Richmond
17. West Coast
18. North Melbourne

 

[The_torpedo]

Initial stab in the dark here.....will reassess in December when the fixture drops

1. Brisbane
2. Collingwood
3. Carlton
4. GWS
5. Adelaide
6. Melbourne
7. Geelong
8. Sydney

9. St Kilda
10. Essendon
11. Freo
12. Gold Coast
13. Dogs
14. Richmond
15. Hawthorn
16. Port
17. North
18. West Coast

QF1: Brisbane vs GWS
QF2: Collingwood vs Carlton
EF1: Adelaide vs Sydney
EF2: Melbourne vs Geelong

SF1: Collingwood vs Geelong
SF2: GWS vs Adelaide

PF1: Brisbane vs Collingwood
PF2: Carlton vs Adelaide

GF: Brisbane vs Carlton

Genuinely think the 2023 GF might be Brisbane's 1999 prelim moment and they run roughshod over everyone next year - the vibe i got immediately after was that the players are determined to make amends and get themselves a flag no matter what

 

[Mr Meow]

My first thoughts are there are four teams who can't make the top 8:
West Coast
North Melbourne
Richmond
Geelong

Reckon Adelaide are certainties to make the 8.

Carlton will open up juicy odds to miss the top 8, which I will be taking advantage of.

We had a positive win/loss ratio when we had less than 6 best 22 players missing. The only way there is "no chance" Geelong make the 8 is if they manage to top a historically bad injury run AND most 21-30 year olds form declines, rather than reverting towards 2022 levels.

 

[Milux]

Good post - re your comments

And even your side 50-1 - i reckon that is overs - in the sense the odds when they put them up to make the 8 might be quite attractive - you had 1 really bad game - the loss to Bris at the Gabba - but apart from that - the rest were allright

I think it is an exciting/interesting comp at the moment - in the sense there are alot of sides - you just dont know what is going to happen - look at Hawthorn they beat the Premiers late in the season

Im very keen on the Crows - i watched that latest showdown and they annihilated Port Ade

Collingwood
Adelaide
Melb
GWS
Swans
Frem
Port
StKilda

What makes the lions drop off so much? Not having a go. Just curious.

 

[Arr0w]

My first thoughts are there are four teams who can't make the top 8:
West Coast
North Melbourne
Richmond
Geelong

Reckon Adelaide are certainties to make the 8.

Carlton will open up juicy odds to miss the top 8, which I will be taking advantage of.

Another gold coin donation

 

[Worm4]

Carlton will open up juicy odds to miss the top 8, which I will be taking advantage of.

I will be happy to take your money if you wish to take advantage. I will go even further to say whatever odds you get , I will offer 10% more

 

[CrowToon]

Just a handy reminder that the Crows are going to be given 18 home games and get to play the Eagles and North 8 times as compensation for the goalpost so you might want to factor that in.

 

[Fadge]

I will be happy to take your money if you wish to take advantage. I will go even further to say whatever odds you get , I will offer 10% more

I have found Carlton supporters to be disappearing welchers on this forum, so with all undue respect I'd prefer to take the 10% lesser odds with a reputable betting agency and have 100% likelihood of seeing my winnings, than wagering with an anonymous Carlton supporter on an internet forum, as we have seen how that turns out...

 

[Worm4]

I have found Carlton supporters to be disappearing welchers on this forum, so with all undue respect I'd prefer to take the 10% lesser odds with a reputable betting agency and have 100% likelihood of seeing my winnings, than wagering with an anonymous Carlton supporter on an internet forum, as we have seen how that turns out...

Either way , you are going to lose your money

 

[Gavin Excell]

1. Dees
2. Port
3. Essendon
4. Richmond
5. West Coast
6. Sydney
7. Carlton
8. Saints
9. Collingwood
10. Adelaide
11. Freo
12. GWS
13. Geelong
14. Brisbane
15. Gold Coast
16. Hawks
17. Bulldogs
18. North

Tigers are miles off top4