List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Scubaveg]

We haven’t brought in too many spuds over his time.

Yollman.


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[buttermuffs]

What you even on about bloke?

Ken has been in power for 10 years and were a kick away from a GF appearance in his first few years. Since then they have rebuilt their whole midfield for a start whilst staying very competitive. Why you just pick and choose? Be better this is just pathetic.

Yeah in his first few years and then proceeded to miss finals in 4 of the next 5 years. There was a clear reason he went young and that’s because they weren’t competing. Yes Butters and Rozee took the reins in the midfield last year but they had already spent years being highly successful developing players.

We have spent five years competing and just started 0-3, just give it some time and if are actually going to miss finals or just make it I’m sure there will be some change in approach.

 

[Sproj]

To have talk about draft calculations again...what can I say...brings a happy tear to the eye.

 

[Elixuh]

Honestly, I'd rather us be 3 and zero and looking like we're not going to lose a game this season.

 

[briztoon]

 

[RoyBoy17]

First time I did mine, I was cleared after 8 months but waited for 9 because the first game we played was on a shitty oval and didn't play a preseason match for that reason too.

The only reason why it went on me 12 months after I returned because it was established it wasn't done right. After it was done he didnt check it properly. The knee cap was scraping on the graft which obviously weakened it over time.

Not that it matters because the second time around he already removed arthritis (at 19). So even if it was done properly I would have gone again at some stage as the knee was bad. Case in point. At 40 I pretty much need a replacement.

Point is like you say, it all depends on how it heals.

Interesting you say that about it not being done properly. The first time I redid it I went to a different surgeon for a second opinion. Julien Feller. When he looked at my scans he noticed the holes drilled for my graft were too big. And this was 17 months post op. So the quality of the surgeon also has a big part.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Interesting you say that about it not being done properly. The first time I redid it I went to a different surgeon for a second opinion. Julien Feller. When he looked at my scans he noticed the holes drilled for my graft were too big. And this was 17 months post op. So the quality of the surgeon also has a big part.

Yeah, when I redid it I went to David Young.

 

[SpecialBruce]

The restricted free agent who could be lured away as Lions face “salary cap crunch”

“They will face a salary cap crunch sooner rather than later.”

www.sen.com.au

I’d hope we’re not even close to entertaining paying Jerry an amount that retains him and still being in the top 25% earners at the club.

Good Lord.

 

[Elixuh]

The restricted free agent who could be lured away as Lions face “salary cap crunch”

“They will face a salary cap crunch sooner rather than later.”

www.sen.com.au

I’d hope we’re not even close to entertaining paying Jerry an amount that retains him and still being in the top 25% earners at the club.

That article doesn’t take into account when Berry signed his current deal and how it is structured.

Re our broader salary cap the article also doesn’t take into account that a few of our ‘star’ players are on the downward side of their earning potential.

 

[StevoJenkins]

The restricted free agent who could be lured away as Lions face “salary cap crunch”

“They will face a salary cap crunch sooner rather than later.”

www.sen.com.au

I’d hope we’re not even close to entertaining paying Jerry an amount that retains him and still being in the top 25% earners at the club.

I laughed when I saw that he may switch clubs to play inside. Clearly Cleary hasn't heard about the shoulders.

 

[SizeMatters]

Hope he heads to the Suns. Good trainer and from all reports professional. But yeah.. he ain't no inside mid and he ain't got the skills to play outside. I think he would suit the Suns well and would re-join his brother but unsure if Jerry would appreciate playing in Tom's shadow.

 

[Tom14]

That article doesn’t take into account when Berry signed his current deal and how it is structured.

Re our broader salary cap the article also doesn’t take into account that a few of our ‘star’ players are on the downward side of their earning potential.

The article is doesn't suggest that Bez would be re-signed to a deal that would have him in our top 25% of earners either. I doubt he'd get that lucrative of a deal from us.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Great incentive for him to have a big season

 

[Saintsone]

Hope he heads to the Suns. Good trainer and from all reports professional. But yeah.. he ain't no inside mid and he ain't got the skills to play outside. I think he would suit the Suns well and would re-join his brother but unsure if Jerry would appreciate playing in Tom's shadow.

Bit harsh on someone that has played 130 plus games for the club. Also don’t forget no one wanted to stay at the club a few years ago and when the go home five left berry was the first one that signed. Everyone else followed. Don’t discount the affect that he has had n the culture of the club over the last few years. Certainly doesn’t need to be mocked on hear by key board warriors.

 

[mpal6]

The restricted free agent who could be lured away as Lions face “salary cap crunch”

“They will face a salary cap crunch sooner rather than later.”

www.sen.com.au

I’d hope we’re not even close to entertaining paying Jerry an amount that retains him and still being in the top 25% earners at the club.

I read in Geelong board you could easily backload a deal and make a player end up in top 25% earners on contract year. They've been doing it for years.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Cool story if the go home five didn’t leave two years before Berry even joined the club.

You’ve completely misunderstood his post

 

[Saintsone]

Cool story if the go home five didn’t leave two years before Berry even joined the club.

Correct, and he was the first of the new breed sign after his rookie deal, then hugh etc followed, do your homework

 

[martinson]

I think the mood around the place had changed significantly once Bez signed.

Going to be interesting what happens with him contract wise. I wonder who would be after him ?

 

[Nathan Barley]

How; they said “also don’t forget no one wanted to stay at the club a few years ago and when the go home five left berry was the first one that signed.”

How could Berry have been one of the first ones to sign when a he wasn’t even at the club when the go home five left being two years later and b when he was drafted, kids don’t technically sign until there second contract, so that’s like 3 years after the go home five.

What have I misunderstood if I’m reading there post as it’s been written?

First young gun who committed to the club long term

 

[Kickback Flip]

First young gun who committed to the club long term

Calling him a gun, is stretching it.

 

[BRAB]

How; they said “also don’t forget no one wanted to stay at the club a few years ago and when the go home five left berry was the first one that signed.”

How could Berry have been one of the first ones to sign when a he wasn’t even at the club when the go home five left being two years later and b when he was drafted, kids don’t technically sign until there second contract, so that’s like 3 years after the go home five.

What have I misunderstood if I’m reading there post as it’s been written?

Also don’t forget no one wanted to stay at the club a few years ago and when the go home five left berry was the first one that signed.

I think the above was perhaps a bit awkwardly worded, but the spirit of what they said was pretty clear.

Berry was the first young draftee to commit and he did it super early into his first season. It was absolutely a watershed moment for the club.

I can see how you read what they said the way you did but it’s clear now what they meant right?

 

[Jirik13]

Hope he heads to the Suns. Good trainer and from all reports professional. But yeah.. he ain't no inside mid and he ain't got the skills to play outside. I think he would suit the Suns well and would re-join his brother but unsure if Jerry would appreciate playing in Tom's shadow.

Just curious, why do you think he would suit Suns well? IMO, Berry would not make inside mids and he's just average outside on the wing.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Calling him a gun, is stretching it.

K

 

[SpecialBruce]

The article is doesn't suggest that Bez would be re-signed to a deal that would have him in our top 25% of earners either. I doubt he'd get that lucrative of a deal from us.

I wouldn't be so sure. This is the same club that put Hipwood on a stupid contract.

 

[Dalions]

Imo Berry has shown a consistent level, probably a just above average player and his wage probably should match that level.
So $500-550k