List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Perrip]

If things ever go bad for this club again we can all at least console ourselves with the fact we don’t have Adam Cooney as our List Manager.

Tweet deleted cause they were getting trolled so hard in the replies, so here's Cooney's Mega Trade if anyone missed it:

 

[Squizz89]

I can't really see what the deal could end up as?

Us: pick 18, future second?

Them: late picks this year for bid-matching, Lynch, paying some salary - say 400k at most?

We have to give Lynch a 2 year deal to smooth out the salary too, with a bit of extra money to make him actually want to do it, so 750k/yr?

Leaves us light on for extra picks next year, committing a lot of money over two years to a 32 year old who has barely played recently.

I don't think Richmond cares about offloading salary cap, who are they paying next year with Rioli, Bolton, Baker all gone?

I also don't think that the future second is enough to get them to move Lynch on, its not enough of a reward to remove basically any forward who can kick goals next year and protect the development of whatever tall they draft.

Basically it only makes sense if they think his body is totally cooked... at which point I'd be staying away!

Think the only way we make any option work (Lynch or otherwise) where we have to actually pay draft capital, is by trading out a regular who might fetch a bit the other way. Still possible, given the exit meetings aren't till next week, otherwise I think we'll be looking to that DFA market, and even if it gets to that I still believe we need at least one for cover. We were already light on up there before Joe made his decision.

 

[dlanod]

Unless we can get someone capable of kicking 40+ goals a year (Lynch/2MP) I think it will be Henry Smith next year.

If there was a betting market this is what I'd think too. It's how we worked Oscar in originally too, and in-house is a safer bet than us actually convincing someone to come over out of the blue.

 

[Nathan Barley]

If there was a betting market this is what I'd think too. It's how we worked Oscar in originally too, and in-house is a safer bet than us actually convincing someone to come over out of the blue.

Sounds like it won't be completely out of the blue though

 

[Nuggo]

Why do we have give up a pick of any worth to Richmond - they might be looking to off load some of the salary. If they aren't then Lynch will probably stay a Tiger.

 

[Squizz89]

FWIW Himmelberg has signed with the Suns, so he's off the table.

As Fages said last night we've known this was coming for 12 months now, so as Nathan Barley said if there is someone out there we've lined up, then we should be confident we've done the due diligence, and not just rushed a decision even though Joe's decision has just been made public.

 

[Hollow Knight]

That's Cooney's worst proposal ever by far, and that includes the Burger Ring.

 

[Tom14]

Think the only way we make any option work (Lynch or otherwise) where we have to actually pay draft capital, is by trading out a regular who might fetch a bit the other way. Still possible, given the exit meetings aren't till next week, otherwise I think we'll be looking to that DFA market, and even if it gets to that I still believe we need at least one for cover. We were already light on up there before Joe made his decision.

I forgot that I was going to include Dev in the hypothetical and maybe we get a future third back. Still don't see it making sense.

DFA route seems more likely.

Just need the 2025 Free Agent Key forwards to not be LOSERS and stay out of contract.

 

[Elixuh]

I can’t believe Cooney opted for the traditional drilled hole in the skull lobotomy.

 

[Lionwest]

Honestly one would think a child on school holidays has come up with that trade suggestion. To think he's a mature (perhaps the jury is out on that one) adult that was a former professional in this field and is getting paid to provide his opinion is really mind boggling. It's actually embarrassing!

 

[Bucking Beads]

That's Cooney's worst proposal ever by far, and that includes the Burger Ring.

It is overvaluing Mckay immensely.

 

[Helicon1]

It is overvaluing Mckay immensely.

That’s Essendon McKay type overvaluing.

 

[OG Loc]

Tweet deleted cause they were getting trolled so hard in the replies, so here's Cooney's Mega Trade if anyone missed it:

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Cooney pls

 

[Squizz89]

Cooney is a goose, but FWIW Zac is the one that if other clubs came sniffing and if he was interested in entertaining anything, then I'd also consider what those offers were.

 

[Helicon1]

Cooney is a goose, but FWIW Zac is the one that if other clubs came sniffing and if he was interested in entertaining anything, then I'd also consider what those offers were.

Do feel other clubs would see him as gettable.

 

[Tom14]

Whinging works:



Hard to see how perryman won't be Band 1 as well - likely we are out to Pick 20.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Cooney is a goose, but FWIW Zac is the one that if other clubs came sniffing and if he was interested in entertaining anything, then I'd also consider what those offers were.

As long as we value him on previous seasons form rather than how he played for the bulk of this season

 

[Nathan Barley]

Whinging works:



Hard to see how perryman won't be Band 1 as well - likely we are out to Pick 20.

What a rort

 

[Nathan Barley]

McKay and Battle wouldn't even make our best 22 and yet they're worth very early picks?

Saints will stuff it up anyway

 

[Elixuh]

Whinging works:



Hard to see how perryman won't be Band 1 as well - likely we are out to Pick 20.

That’s genuinely just a priority pick for the saints. Hilarious.

 

[dlanod]

How do the Saints feel that every other club is penalised for Battle leaving and having their picks pushed back?

That one is easy - zero shots are given, same as I would feel if we lost someone and got top compo instead of getting shafted for Rocky.

 

[Nathan Barley]

I wouldn't even give up a pick in the 20's for Battle.

Farcical.

How do the Saints feel that every other club is penalised for Battle leaving and having their picks pushed back?

With our squad i wouldn't want him at all

I don't get it at all. Was horrible both times we played them this year

 

[SpecialBruce]

Cooney is a goose, but FWIW Zac is the one that if other clubs came sniffing and if he was interested in entertaining anything, then I'd also consider what those offers were.

Zac is loved here so it's dangerous mentioning him, but I am in the same camp. I'd prefer to lose him over a Starcevich for example.

 

[Tom14]

With our squad i wouldn't want him at all

I don't get it at all. Was horrible both times we played them this year

There will be a ton of hype on the Hawks next year and Barass should be a good pickup. But Battle - I think will just be fine?

Frankly if Frosty didn't have the maverick streak that I love him for, I think he's a better option as he can play on taller types. Battle is just pure average.

 

[Tom14]

Zac is loved here so it's dangerous mentioning him, but I am in the same camp. I'd prefer to lose him over a Starcevich for example.

Genuinely think Zac has moved to #1 whipping boy status actually after Cam's second half of the season.