List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Gabba Gate 33]

We have to be prepared for guys leaving for more opportunities. So many good up and comers and the reality is you only get so many chances to cement yourself in a side. Offers would be coming for our fringe players.
Big money offers would be so tempting.

 

[Crusha]

Please, no Hawthorn ‘rejects.’
We had to pay a second rounder to move Gunston on and get Ryan.
(I think that’s right.)
On a positive note, if we hadn’t, Gunston could have been a premiership player with us.

I'm not so sure that he would have been the difference getting the VFL boys through the Prelim. Final .... let alone win a GF ............................................ (in the VFL)

 

[JasRulz63]

The other reason I don't see Hawthorn trading Lewis is their key forward stocks aren't that much better than ours sans Daniher. Dear who's a promising young forward, Chol who has question marks over his flakiness, Lewis who's coming off an ACL and a couple of project types.

 

[BuntonRules]

Have not read every page of this thread, but IMO people are underestimating the potential, ability and development of Henry Smith. Tell him he has the job for the first 6 weeks and watch him blossom.

The club has been aware of Joe for 12 months, so mayhap they fell the same.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Have not read every page of this thread, but IMO people are underestimating the potential, ability and development of Henry Smith. Tell him he has the job for the first 6 weeks and watch him blossom.

The club has been aware of Joe for 12 months, so mayhap they fell the same.

And if it doesn't work after 6 works? If Hippy gets injured?

 

[Elixuh]

If we recruit walking injury Lewis I will be canceling my fagan and asking for my membership to be sacked

 

[mpal6]

if this is all true they’ll value Lewis more than the general trade market and rightly so considering what they’ve invested in him. But the two ACL’s will bring the value down a bit and that’s why our guys are sniffing around. Im
Keen for the right price. We are only considering this guy because of how little (in our eyes) we think we might be able to hand over.

Far out, 2 ACLs and he won't get on park until middle of next year? And they want a first + morris or coleman or bailey or Lohmann?? Walk away now.

We overpayed for Brandon Ryan already which Hawks fans are conveniently forgetting. As well as sending Gunston back who was better for them this year, while mentoring Calsher Dear. Hope we don't do it again.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Lewis has only done 1 ACL right? What are people on about?

 

[Tom14]

If we recruit walking injury Lewis I will be canceling my fagan and asking for my membership to be sacked

If we recruit anyone who has ever attended a hawthorn game I’m going to send a stern letter to Fages.

 

[JasRulz63]

Lewis has only done 1 ACL right? What are people on about?

Think he's had a partial tear/sprain in 2023 (not requiring a reconstruction) and then a full tear in 2024.

 

[Nunez]

Think he's had a partial tear/sprain in 2023 (not requiring a reconstruction) and then a full tear in 2024.

I do wonder how good their rehab of the injury was in 2023 tbh.

 

[BrisVegasDru]

Have not read every page of this thread, but IMO people are underestimating the potential, ability and development of Henry Smith. Tell him he has the job for the first 6 weeks and watch him blossom.

The club has been aware of Joe for 12 months, so mayhap they fell the same.

liked glimpses of what Henry had shown, bringing the ball to ground, good ruck craft, but to hear Max Gawn come out unprompted and label him the next big thing really made me take notice.

Look at how Kai and Logan came on this year, he has only played 4 games. Could end up a genuine strength working in concert with B O.

Really don't want to do what the 3 peat guys did and think only of today, keen for us to give a spot to a project kpf if we can, I know list spots are like hens teeth, but we seem set for mids for the next 5 or more years.

 

[Nunez]

liked glimpses of what Henry had shown, bringing the ball to ground, good ruck craft, but to hear Max Gawn come out unprompted and label him the next big thing really made me take notice.

Look at how Kai and Logan came on this year, he has only played 4 games. Could end up a genuine strength working in concert with B O.

Really don't want to do what the 3 peat guys did and think only of today, keen for us to give a spot to a project kpf if we can, I know list spots are like hens teeth, but we seem set for mids for the next 5 or more years.

A ruck who is a strong contested mark, good kick, has strong tap work and can kick goals. It is a pretty handy skill set. He's young, but we're invested and so is Henry.

 

[Happy_Neale]

Can we trade picks two years in advance this off season or does that come in next year?

 

[LoganMorrisFan]

 

[Nunez]

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Vegas worked for the boys last time. Round two baby!

 

[Dalions]

A partially torn ACL is forever a partially torn ACL, there is no rehab or surgery that is ever going to fix that. The ACL doesn’t have any blood flow so it doesn’t fix itself no matter how much time it is given.
The fact that he has now fully torn that ACL is the best thing that can happen, as now he can actually have it reconstructed.
And should heal as well as any other.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Lewis will be back from his ACL in April, so should be good to go from May.

Also remember Lewis was in Vegas with the boys last off-season. I think the rumour has merit.

 

[Dalions]

Lewis will be back from his ACL in April, so should be good to go from May.

Also remember Lewis was in Vegas with the boys last off-season. I think the rumour has merit.

Is that him in the front right?
Gunston was also on that trip I believe.
Heard some other interesting things about that trip last weekend.
Which I blew off as a pile of but it was interesting all the same, especially if true.
Even though it wasn’t in Vegas at all.

 

[Perrip]

Can we trade picks two years in advance this off season or does that come in next year?

2025

 

[Perrip]

I had GWS as playing the the GF at the start of the season, i thought you guys were big, strong, out of the limelight and hungry. GWS kinda reminded me of the Geelong teams the Lions faced a few years back, just big hard bodies that bullied teams. then during the season there seemed time of fragility, where minds just couldn't stay in the game for some reason, a team distracted not just single players. In the finals this showed up big time, what ever it is where a whole team just turns off you have to solve or you will continue to be just a good finals team. Like the suns whom cant win away from home, GWS need to work on their leaders to 'lead' when they see the momentum changes happening.

thanks for dropping into our group.

I'll add to this by saying GWS appeared to have the problem we had like 2 years ago where we couldn't stop teams who had momentum and went defensive too early to defend our lead. I saw that a few times throughout GWS' season and then it got showed up in finals.

 

[Maverick]

Jake Riccardi is the player that I feel a trade could be possible.

Was dropped just before finals, so could be open to a move.

Every time I see him play I think he goes ok. Capable of being a 30-40 a year goal scorer.

Only 24, 198 cm, very mobile, can pinch hit in the ruck, big bodied.

A future second or third should get the deal done.

We have enough fire power up forward, players who play tall... Kai, Ah Chee, Lincoln, Rayner, Hipwood, Morris, that Riccardi would be a role player Full Forward where 1.5 goals a game, relief ruck, would be sufficient.

 

[Nunez]

Jake Riccardi is the player that I feel a trade could be possible.

Was dropped just before finals, so could be open to a move.

Every time I see him play I think he goes ok. Capable of being a 30-40 a year goal scorer.

Only 24, 198 cm, very mobile, can pinch hit in the ruck, big bodied.

A future second or third should get the deal done.

We have enough fire power up forward, players who play tall... Kai, Ah Chee, Lincoln, Rayner, Hipwood, Morris, that Riccardi would be a role player Full Forward where 1.5 goals a game, relief ruck, would be sufficient.

Not a bad option at all.

 

[T Rick]

A ruck who is a strong contested mark, good kick, has strong tap work and can kick goals. It is a pretty handy skill set. He's young, but we're invested and so is Henry.

Henry is really good below his knees as well - has a very promising future.

 

[Tom14]

Is that him in the front right?
Gunston was also on that trip I believe.
Heard some other interesting things about that trip last weekend.
Which I blew off as a pile of but it was interesting all the same, especially if true.
Even though it wasn’t in Vegas at all.

I think it was ridiculous that it got brought up in the media when we started 0-3 but fair to say some of them didn’t exactly cover themselves in glory.

But that’s their personal lives, not the media’s business.