List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[irel]

Concerning that we have had to leak our draft/trade intentions to the media so early. This is going to be awkward at best.

What intentions have we leaked? That we will be matching? Every club knew GWS were matching Cameron long, looong before trade period. Surely you're not advocating the club play ducks and drakes and tell fibs? If that's the level of leakage that is concerning you, where were you during Leppa's years?

 

[Nunez]

Concerning that we have had to leak our draft/trade intentions to the media so early. This is going to be awkward at best.

He will stay don't worry.

 

[M Malice]

It would be a massive blow if McCluggage moved on, IMO the best 5-6 years of his career are still to come.

If he was offered 1.3 Million per year would we really match it... if so he would stay IMO.

 

[Grasshopper17]

What intentions have we leaked? That we will be matching? Every club knew GWS were matching Cameron long, looong before trade period. Surely you're not advocating the club play ducks and drakes and tell fibs? If that's the level of leakage that is concerning you, where were you during Leppa's years?

Also that we would demand multiple first round draft picks. Immediately that creates a barrier for a number of clubs, most likely.

Don't confuse the Leppa years leaking with this kind of leaking. I imagine that this kind of leaking has been carefully considered by whole-of-club with a view to influencing the pursuit of Hugh by other clubs.

If negotiations are not going as planned, it's a smart move. If negotiations are going as planned, it doesn't really matter either way.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Not worried at all.

 

[notliondown]

Dev has a bit if work to do to make a significant and consistent contribution in the seniors.

Imo his two biggest weaknesses which we can’t afford to carry are lack of composure and very two touch fumbly. Compare that to Kai who is relatively composed and clean in only his first real full game?

I reckon maturity and confidence fixes a lot of those 2. Can't do much about the first, and the second is hard to when you are fringe. Hopefully with the passage of time both happen at once.

 

[Elixuh]

The club said a couple of months ago we would pay Hugh whatever he wants. Its not too long a bow to draw to understand that means we would almost certainly match.

Whoever comes for Hugh, we will beast them. Full ****ing beast.

 

[Jackywats]

He will stay.

 

[rye]

the last major pieces we lost were rockcliff and beams

rockcliff was pretty much half shown out the door

beams i think the club would look back and quietly be very happy we got what we did, when we did.

since then we have only really lost role players or fringe 22 guys. i think we might continue to lose the occasional draftee who doesnt acclimatise to brisbane as we would have hoped, but the days of established players we want to keep leaving has long since passed IMO

 

[BRAB]

I do think it’s a bit spooky that we’re starting to hear some sabre rattling around trade negotiations when most of the talk up until this point has been around how Hugh is definitely staying.

 

[rye]

I do think it’s a bit spooky that we’re starting to hear some sabre rattling around trade negotiations when most of the talk up until this point has been around how Hugh is definitely staying.

when theres a weekly podcast subsisded by the AFL to discuss trade and free agency i would hazard a guess that the majority of the stories produced this far out from trade period would be conjecture at best.

gotta have something to talk about.

 

[Elixuh]

I do think it’s a bit spooky that we’re starting to hear some sabre rattling around trade negotiations when most of the talk up until this point has been around how Hugh is definitely staying.

They need to properly test the market. I'm planning on increasing the frequency and sound with which I cheer Hugh at games to try and get it over the line for the club.

 

[CarterS]

If I was Hugh's manager I'd be holding out for more money too.

 

[Dom PC]

If I was Hugh's manager I'd be holding out for more money too.

Surely our squad is at the point where they are taking slightly unders (or at least not overs) to help keep this squad together and enable more sustained success.

I think the difficult thing might be that big jump in the cap means the line is blurred a little when it comes to what is a fair price for the club to pay.

 

[rye]

one thing i think would be interesting for our list management would be how many of our contracts had pay rises tied to the CBA increase.

think i read here that we as a rule were one of the clubs that did not incorporate such clauses into our contracts.

would make the contracts the likes that Payne, Dunkley, Hipwood, Daniher are on very very good value for money

dunkley for example was reported to have signed for about 750k a year... that contract looks like some tidy business by the club if its value stayed the same despite the csap increasing.

 

[Nunez]

He is

I do think it’s a bit spooky that we’re starting to hear some sabre rattling around trade negotiations when most of the talk up until this point has been around how Hugh is definitely staying.

"Hi Brisbane, I'm keen to stay. My manager has received offers if 1.3 million a year. Happy to negotiate A reasonable fee for my services but FYI"

"Hi Hugh, sounds good let's work it out."

I'm more concerned how we're going to afford the 2 Million dollar man Cam Rayner

 

[Elixuh]

Saints, Adelaide and Essendon should be fine to ward off. No one wants to play for them.

Geelong has genuine brown paper bags though, strong culture and a comparable lifestyle for our Hugh. Concerning.

 

[Bosh Jootsma]

Gotta laugh when the article calls him a premier wingman. Where is Hugh’s All Australian Blazer then?

 

[JasRulz63]

Gotta laugh when the article calls him a premier wingman. Where is Hugh’s All Australian Blazer then?

They only name wingers when they can include Victorians named Daicos.

 

[Thomasno]

The club said a couple of months ago we would pay Hugh whatever he wants. Its not too long a bow to draw to understand that means we would almost certainly match.

Whoever comes for Hugh, we will beast them. Full ******* beast.

Beast as in this beast?

 

[cotter101]

Been said already, Hugh is staying - Unless he pulls a Schache, re-signs and then requests a trade.

Berry has received interest from Geelong and Port. Port looking to replace Boak and Wines, who is almost a certainty to leave unless he gets the inside role back permanently.

Preuss/Moyle are two rucks that we’re actively chasing.

Lane gone, Smith has interest from both SA clubs - be surprised if he leaves.

 

[M Malice]

Been said already, Hugh is staying - Unless he pull’s a Schache, re-signs and then requests a trade.

Berry has received interest from Geelong and Port. Port looking to replace Boak and Wines, who is almost a certainty to leave unless he gets the inside role back permanently.

Preuss/Moyle are two rucks that we’re actively chasing.

Lane gone, Smith has interest from both SA clubs - be surprised if he leaves. Fort will be next in if anything happens to Oscar, but Smith will get the opportunity to be the #1 ruck in reserves. Building him up slowly.

I would definitely go Moyle over Preuss, lot younger and just as "good" IMO, only if we delist Kalin Lane though, too many pure rucks on the list if we keep Lane and get Moyle.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Preuss/Moyle are two rucks that we’re actively chasing.

Why the heck are we chasing these two when we have Smith and Fort?

 

[mpal6]

Been said already, Hugh is staying - Unless he pulls a Schache, re-signs and then requests a trade.

Berry has received interest from Geelong and Port. Port looking to replace Boak and Wines, who is almost a certainty to leave unless he gets the inside role back permanently.

Preuss/Moyle are two rucks that we’re actively chasing.

Lane gone, Smith has interest from both SA clubs - be surprised if he leaves.

Omg no Preuss sorry. That guy is a perennial injury ward occupier but because he's tall and has a big frame has managed to carry on until now. North Melbourne to Demons to GWS - he might eventually put a bunch of games together somewhere.

He's a classic conman who calls himself ruck - 10 year career and 28 games to show for.

 

[Dalions]

Why the heck are we chasing these two when we have Smith and Fort?

We are looking for a permanent replacement for Oscar as no 1 ruck, I for 1 can’t confidently say that that player is currently on the list.
Fort is a great backup but that is likely all he will be, Smith is still very raw and as Cotter said we are rightly taking our time with, so is still a couple of years away from being ready. Lane will be gone at the end of the year.

Out and out no to Preuss, but Moyle would be a good pickup.
Really liked what I see from Xerri would take him in a heart beat.