List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[blueiris]

Are 3rd rounders worth any points next year?

shh we most likely trade it for points

 

[jjami15]

This trade period is booooring. When can we start 2025 List Management Discussions? With Joe’s money next year I wonder if we would go to Rayner and Starcevich and see if we could bump their current contracts up to then make it a little bit less for the next contract. Extra 600k for Rayner and 400k for Starcevich. I have absolutely no idea but I reckon we will be head hunting a big fish next free agency. One of Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

or TDK.

 

[briztoon]

They just PM Briztoon

Obviously West Coast forgot to.

 

[briztoon]

Sharp about to be traded apparently....

So we have a Death Ride next year.

 

[irel]

That’s not possible.

Yes it is.
There's few ways but one way is once we match Ashcroft, we trade back into the draft using available picks and future picks, such as trading future first into this draft.

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[Perrip]

This trade period is booooring. When can we start 2025 List Management Discussions? With Joe’s money next year I wonder if we would go to Rayner and Starcevich and see if we could bump their current contracts up to then make it a little bit less for the next contract. Extra 600k for Rayner and 400k for Starcevich. I have absolutely no idea but I reckon we will be head hunting a big fish next free agency. One of Oscar Allen or TDK.

We're already working on a new deal for Rayner, which should be completed during the off-season or early in the season next year.

 

[Surly Boy]

.... and done now. Thanks Sharpy!

 

[Elixuh]

.... and done now. Thanks Sharpy!

Go well Sharpy. He’s clearly a good player, hope he gets plenty of opportunity to show the comp his skills.

 

[blueiris]

WE now take our hand to the Draft and trade pick 27 for 2 3rd picks gaining us more points and no deficit next season

 

[Dalions]

 

[Lace Out]

This is a lot better than a flat 49..whats say the difference in point value pick 40 to 55 ?

 

[blueiris]

This is a lot better than a flat 49..whats say the difference in point value pick 40 to 50 ?

The most it can be is 297 points the least is 14

 

[braddsey]

Are 3rd rounders worth any points next year?

Yes. Points have been dropped for 4th rounders. based on current 2025 draft order, the F3 swap is worth 153 points.
(but backing us for the flag, Essendon for the spoon so should be worth more).

 

[Nathan Barley]

Yes. Points have been dropped for 4th rounders. based on current 2025 draft order, the F3 swap is worth 153 points.
(but backing us for the flag, Essendon for the spoon so should be worth more).

Before free agency compensation? Assuming there's 5-6 compensation picks before the future thirds?

 

[blueiris]

Before free agency compensation? Assuming there's 5-6 compensation picks before the future thirds?

your right it most likely could be worthless next season we most likely trade it for points this draft

 

[braddsey]

Before free agency compensation? Assuming there's 5-6 compensation picks before the future thirds?

My post was as it stands now. the picks will move and be traded, and while they decrease in value from f/a compo, they also increase from other f/s and academy selections that consume multiple picks. Still, it should be a positive swap, and it's more than a straight pick 49 this year.

 

[M Malice]

We now have 2,531 points.

If Levi is bid on at 2 and Marshall at 19 we need 2,772 points.

I think our list management team have got us covered.

 

[iBeng]

Cant see it myself but hope he can progress his career there.

 

[Section 5]

I am not sure why pick 27 will be left till draft night if someone has a reasonably good offer before then.
If Ashcroft was expected to go at 4-6 i can see a little more sense in doing that but not much.
Ashcroft could go at 1 and we would be scrambling from the start if no clubs are all that interested in 27 at that early stage.
Even 2, 3 would not give us much time literally to do a pick deal.

Not much happens that's not expected in the top 4 picks (just take Twomey list review just before draft) so clubs won't know if someone they had in mind, has slipped or available in that 20-30 mark

 

[Miluxx]

Cant see it myself but hope he can progress his career there.

It's weird. Unless they see him replacing ANB which i doubt. He is behind Windsor and Langdon for wing spots.

 

[mpal6]

I am not sure why pick 27 will be left till draft night if someone has a reasonably good offer before then.
If Ashcroft was expected to go at 4-6 i can see a little more sense in doing that but not much.
Ashcroft could go at 1 and we would be scrambling from the start if no clubs are all that interested in 27 at that early stage.
Even 2, 3 would not give us much time literally to do a pick deal.

Not much happens that's not expected in the top 4 picks (just take Twomey list review just before draft) so clubs won't know if someone they had in mind, has slipped or available in that 20-30 mark

I think we'll be limited by number of picks we can carry into draft based on available list spots.
So making 27 to 2-3 picks have to wait until draft night starts, at which point there is no limitation.

 

[mpal6]

So we have 27, 34, 42, 43, 49, 60, 66

We have spots from Daniher, Lyons, Sharp, Michael, Madden, Lane (rookie)
We also haven't signed Prior, Beecken (rookie), Craven (rookie)

So including Prior we have 6 list spots which covers pick 27 to 60 at this stage.
If Dev goes then we'll have 66 or an earlier pick also in play.

 

[T Rick]

Great Club culture by the Lions to look after Sharpy and facilitate this trade… looking after our fringe boys and giving them a chance to grow.

 

[Section 5]

I think we'll be limited by number of picks we can carry into draft based on available list spots.
So making 27 to 2-3 picks have to wait until draft night starts, at which point there is no limitation.

Yes, but my point is that it is quite likely no one will be that hungry for pick 27 at that very early stage on draft night.
Of course, i am on the outside, the club may know someone will do a deal very early.

 

[mpal6]

Yes, but my point is that it is quite likely no one will be that hungry for pick 27 at that very early stage on draft night.
Of course, i am on the outside, the club may know someone will do a deal very early.

I believe we'll have some "friends" on speed dial. Looking through the list, GWS might be a good candidate for us to work with - 27 for 37,53,56. Gets us a 200 point upgrade.