List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[SpecialBruce]

Day is the man

 

[SizeMatters]

I think we will be backing up the track for Oscar Allen

12

Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

. Will be hard to pry from Weagles though.

Also wonder if it’s worth taking two delisted spuds to assist with KPF depth. We probably need to do some list management accounting to make that work? I’m just unsure on Day ability to stay healthy.

If we grab two injury prone spuds in Day and Krueger it might be enough to have at least one fit at a time.

 

[Elixuh]

Day played 20 games (I think) in 2023.
13 this year. Same injury as Choc cut his season short.

We will heal him.

 

[Dalions]

Day played 20 games (I think) in 2023.
13 this year. Same injury as Choc cut his season short.

We will heal him.

Did Day’s Plantar Fascia actually snap?
Hope so, because if not, it will stay aggravated until it does.

 

[LoganMorrisFan]

I remember hearing somewhere that Mcrae really rates Kreuger, bloke must be made of glass for them to delist him I reckon

 

[Section 5]

Did Day’s Plantar Fascia actually snap?
Hope so, because if not, it will stay aggravated until it does.

Below from an AFL article dated 9/7/24.
No mention of surgery.
He did not play at AFL level after that.
However, he returned to the VFL later
R20, he kicked 2g. 0b
Played again in a losing Wildcard final kicking 4g. 2b
.....................................................................

Sam Day was unable to finish the match against North Melbourne after succumbing to a plantar fascia issue in his foot.

The key forward will miss the next 4-6 weeks as he recovers.

 

[BangyBangy]

Eh? Played only 3 games this year and only 18 in the past 4 seasons. Has barely gotten on the park

18 games in 4 seasons. Should be fresh.

Get his foot right & he'll be good to go for another three to four seasons easy. Easy!!!

I'm 200% on board.

 

[buttermuffs]

Frustrating player, but I think has more to give than Sam Day. Lighter build though, so doesnt necessarily solve the ruck problem like Day would.

Couldn’t crack in to Essendon and Melbourne who had terrible key forwards while he was there.


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[Tom14]

Couldn’t crack in to Essendon and Melbourne who had terrible key forwards while he was there.


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Hasn’t done anything good since the 2018 finals series.

 

[Nuggo]

Weideman has struggled to make his mark in AFL. As top 10 key forward pick he has gotten some mileage out of that title but the show has come to an end for Sam. Bit like Pruess - promises, promises.

 

[Dalions]

This just popped up in my feed.
Thought I would share.
I miss him already!

 

[LoganMorrisFan]

Must suck trying to be incognito when you are 200cm+

 

[Clarkythelion]

Who could we afford in 2026?

We see it a lot in the facebook supporters groups - Let's get him, let's do a deal for him, why didn't we get him and so on to replace Joe.

The reality is whom could we afford in 2026 - For those better than I, we would have a first round pick, say 17 to 18. We could trade the next year in also so another 1st round draft pick say 17 or 18. If we don't re-sign Starc or Rayner we might get a compensation pick again end of first round pick 20.

Maybe at best we would have 2 end of first round picks in 2026 that's assuming we loose someone we don't want to, or drag a pick forward.

I wouldn't see an Oscar Allen

12

Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

being traded for pick 18 and pick 20 - would the Eagles do that deal?
Is there another serviceable ruck/forward being mentioned that is around that price?

I still think we are looking for an uncut diamond or breeding within with what we will realistically have to pay with, that wont damage us long term. We need another Big O that is floating around, a James Poasaidly.

That is only if we are going to keep our game plan which I actually don't, we will evolve as I dont think there is anything like a Joe out there currently.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Who could we afford in 2026?

We see it a lot in the facebook supporters groups - Let's get him, let's do a deal for him, why didn't we get him and so on to replace Joe.

The reality is whom could we afford in 2026 - For those better than I, we would have a first round pick, say 17 to 18. We could trade the next year in also so another 1st round draft pick say 17 or 18. If we don't re-sign Starc or Rayner we might get a compensation pick again end of first round pick 20.

Maybe at best we would have 2 end of first round picks in 2026 that's assuming we loose someone we don't want to, or drag a pick forward.

I wouldn't see an Oscar Allen being traded for pick 18 and pick 20 - would the Eagles do that deal?
Is there another serviceable ruck/forward being mentioned that is around that price?

I still think we are looking for an uncut diamond or breeding within with what we will realistically have to pay with, that wont damage us long term. We need another Big O that is floating around, a James Poasaidly.

That is only if we are going to keep our game plan which I actually don't, we will evolve as I dont think there is anything like a Joe out there currently.

He's a free agent

 

[Nuggo]

Darcy Fogarty

32

Darcy Fogarty

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

5.7

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.0

4star

is a restricted free agent at the end of next year as is Tom De Koning

21

Tom De Koning

Age

26

Ht

201cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

1.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

1.5

5star

. There is probably a couple of others.

 

[lionsrules]

I’d love for the club to go after the De Koning brothers.

 

[Dalions]

I’d love for the club to go after the De Koning brothers.

Just TDK will be great thanks

 

[Monkey Daniel]

Barrett’s Sliding Doors today

 

[Grasshopper17]

You don't think it at the time, but they just said on Gettable, that 14 of the 21 players traded were contracted i.e. two thirds.

Pretty remarkable and something to think that a player contracted doesn't mean its off limits - you probably need to pay more, but I guess it also shows how vulnerable any club is including us even if you have most of your keepers contracted.

What it says to me is the importance of recognising what is essentially two currencies involved in the AFL. There's the salary cap of course, but draft points is the other form of currency, and while each team has the same salary cap (notwithstanding Cotton On contracts, random blocks of land and cushy jobs for the misso), the draft points each team has each year is inversely proportional to their finishing position.

Joe's retirement has really hit home for us the importance of this second currency. While from all reports it leaves enough room in our salary cap to pay for a replacement Joe, we simply don't have the draft points, and that would probably have been the case even without needing to accommodate Will, Sam and whoever else from our academy.

This is the system working exactly as it's intended, where this "2nd currency" of draft points is designed to work hand in hand with the salary cap to avoid a Penrith Panthers-style dynasty which has occurred in the NRL, where they have a salary cap only.

With the draft points sliding scale tightening up considerably next year, it really leaves free agency as the only method available for strongly-performing clubs to keep bucking the trend and rorting the system.

 

[Sproj]

What it says to me is the importance of recognising what is essentially two currencies involved in the AFL. There's the salary cap of course, but draft points is the other form of currency, and while each team has the same salary cap (notwithstanding Cotton On contracts, random blocks of land and cushy jobs for the misso), the draft points each team has each year is inversely proportional to their finishing position.

Joe's retirement has really hit home for us the importance of this second currency. While from all reports it leaves enough room in our salary cap to pay for a replacement Joe, we simply don't have the draft points, and that would probably have been the case even without needing to accommodate Will, Sam and whoever else from our academy.

This is the system working exactly as it's intended, where this "2nd currency" of draft points is designed to work hand in hand with the salary cap to avoid a Penrith Panthers-style dynasty which has occurred in the NRL, where they have a salary cap only.

With the draft points sliding scale tightening up considerably next year, it really leaves free agency as the only method available for strongly-performing clubs to keep bucking the trend and rorting the system.

The Penrith situation is also exacerbated but the level of talent in the NRL being at an all time low and most of the good players now come through that system.

 

[Grasshopper17]

The Penrith situation is also exacerbated but the level of talent in the NRL being at an all time low and most of the good players now come through that system.

It's a great credit to Phil Gould for having the foresight to realise several decades ago how their system could be rorted and also to Penrith as a club for having the patience to see through what has essentially been a 20+ year strategy which has really only borne fruit in the last 5 years after some very difficult times leading up to that.

 

[Tom14]

What it says to me is the importance of recognising what is essentially two currencies involved in the AFL. There's the salary cap of course, but draft points is the other form of currency, and while each team has the same salary cap (notwithstanding Cotton On contracts, random blocks of land and cushy jobs for the misso), the draft points each team has each year is inversely proportional to their finishing position.

Joe's retirement has really hit home for us the importance of this second currency. While from all reports it leaves enough room in our salary cap to pay for a replacement Joe, we simply don't have the draft points, and that would probably have been the case even without needing to accommodate Will, Sam and whoever else from our academy.

This is the system working exactly as it's intended, where this "2nd currency" of draft points is designed to work hand in hand with the salary cap to avoid a Penrith Panthers-style dynasty which has occurred in the NRL, where they have a salary cap only.

With the draft points sliding scale tightening up considerably next year, it really leaves free agency as the only method available for strongly-performing clubs to keep bucking the trend and rorting the system.

Which gets back to my earlier point - Allen and Fogarty, do you want to win a premiership?

Or are you in this caper to get slightly better cashies at sportsmans nights in Perth and Adelaide?

 

[mpal6]

Barrett’s Sliding Doors today View attachment 2146872

He knows......

 

[Grasshopper17]

Which gets back to my earlier point - Allen and Fogarty, do you want to win a premiership?

Or are you in this caper to get slightly better cashies at sportsmans nights in Perth and Adelaide?

He knows......

View attachment 2146929

We probably can't afford to be 13th at the bye with a dysfunctional midfield.

 

[bungalow_bill]

It's going to be interesting to see how Morris goes next year with another pre season.