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Prediction- Who is delisted this year(not retirements).

  • Berry

  • McCluggage

  • Lyons

  • McCarthy

  • Answerth

  • Lane

  • Prior

  • Madden

  • Lester

  • Joyce

  • Zorko

  • Michael

  • Brain

  • Reville

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Gadzorks said:
They should go. I want to see them playing senior footy, ala keays. Both loyal clubmen, the deserve an oppotunity.
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Both are mates from WA and I feel like West Coast would be a great option for them. Prior showed he could play good footy this year and Robertson showed that last year. Eagles worst quality is their list depth so even if they are 16-23 on the list it would go a long way to helping them.


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blueiris said:
Can we postpone any talks of Joey leaving if Anthony hasn't heard anything
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I don't think his dad is going to speak for his son or ruin what is the best moment of Joe's professional career by confirming whether he is retiring. I expect Joey will retire.
 
Robertson showed he was too good for VFL and is just unfortunately behind a great midfield at the Lions and Levi and Sam in this season he clearly needs to find a new home the kid can seriously play I don't see it being that hard for him to find one I think Richmond is a perfect fit personally
 

Ralph: The impact of Joe Daniher’s decision on Brisbane’s premiership chances and who even replaces him?​

Who would walk away from a $1 million contract at the peak of their powers when more premiership success beckons?
“That’s just Joe,” said one Lions figure over the weekend when trying to explain the decision he had ahead of him.

Joe Daniher is yet to officially make a decision on his future, but those close to him believe it is very likely he has played his last game.

Daniher isn’t defined by money, isn’t defined by football and is every chance to vanish from the game to his home in Ocean Shores, never to be seen again.

Despite a contract for 2025 that will again pay him handsomely.

And yet as the 2024 AFL finals series shows, Daniher is everything to the Lions.

He kicked four goals and rescued them from oblivion against the GWS Giants; he took over in the ruck from Oscar McInerney in the preliminary final, and was so Joe in the Grand Final.

In other words, he tripped over trying to kick goals, had an air swing, missed two early shots, fluffed some lines and yet he still ended up being absolutely magnificent.

Daniher kicked the huge nerve-settler in the second quarter, had two direct goal assists to Cal Ah Chee, a dozen total score involvements and basically did as he pleased.

The Grand Final version of Daniher was the best we have ever seen – rag-dolling Brodie Grundy in the ruck to kick to Ah Chee, then selflessly squaring the ball to him at half-forward when he so often would have blazed away at goal.

He was mobbed by his teammates kicking a late snap goal, which for Daniher might be a perfect final note on a career of highs and lows.

Charlie Cameron hopes he has savoured every moment with Daniher as he awaits a decision.

“You just have to make the most of and enjoy the moments together,” Cameron said.

“It is pretty special to play alongside Joe for the last four years now. He has brought so much to our footy club, helped us out and even (in the grand final) he really helped us to get the win.

“He is a pretty special player.”

If he plays a final year, then Brisbane are the rightful $6 premiership favourites (currently ahead of Hawthorn and Sydney at $7 and Carlton at $8).

If he retires, the Lions’ key-forward options look awfully thin.

Gone is the bloke who has had eight big finals in the past three seasons, who has kicked 204 total goals in the past four seasons, and who makes that forward line tick.

The main tall becomes Eric Hipwood, who Chris Fagan admits is an agile half forward in the frame of a 203cm player, then second-year 191cm tall Logan Morris and ruck-forward Darcy Fort.

Darcy Gardiner, returning from a knee reconstruction, could play forward.

Ex-Hawk Brandon Ryan played only a single AFL game for two touches and averaged 1.6 goals and 1.4 contested marks in 16 VFL games, so being the focus of this forward line would be a huge leap.

The Lions would have $1 million of cap space, but no picks to get to the market and no time to secure a free agency forward given they are all off the market.

They would have to get mighty inventive. What are their options?

Essendon’s Jake Stringer is a goalkicker, but he’s not a tall in a side that already has mid-sizers Ah Chee, Kai Lohmann, Charlie Cameron, Cam Rayner, Zac Bailey and the returning Lincoln McCarthy.

Fort could play first ruck and Oscar McInerney could play key forward – while he kicked 14 goals in his 2018 season, Big O is very much a ruckman and not a leading forward.

Brisbane could ask the question of Richmond’s Tom Lynch, due $1.5 million next year.

But even if the Lions offered a two-year to allow them to spread out his salary, the Tigers would want a quality pick or mid-tier player for a player about to turn 32.

It would leave the Richmond forward line absolutely bereft of key targets.

And Brisbane already needs to find as many as 1000 extra draft points to secure Levi Ashcroft and Sam Marshall before it even considers how to draft for a Daniher replacement.

Others who could at least crash some packs include free agent Elliott Himmelberg, Levi Casboult, Matt Taberner and Sam Day.

But Himmelberg is likely heading to the Gold Coast, Taberner is exceptionally injury-prone and Day has played 18 AFL games in four years.

St Kilda free agent Tim Membrey is available and kicked 30.9 this year, but at 190cm he is another complementary part of a forward line, not the key target.

But there is no replacing Daniher. Key forwards in their prime just don’t leave their clubs without being traded or securing free agency compensation.

That is the Joe Daniher package, and while it won the Lions a flag, his likely departure leaves a gaping hole at full forward that is impossible to replace.
 
Elixuh said:
I agree for your average player who then suddenly wants all this flexibility etc. But Joe has been consistent in how he wants to work within the game and what he values. He's probably our most well adjusted player. It isn't like its something that has come out of the blue or is completely out of character.
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Its one thing Geelong have done well especially with older players. Once the club is comfortable that the player knows what they can and cant do its great to be able to give them that little bit extra flexibility. Its not for all players and especially not the kids as they come in and learn what to do
 
Squizz89 said:

Ralph: The impact of Joe Daniher’s decision on Brisbane’s premiership chances and who even replaces him?​

Who would walk away from a $1 million contract at the peak of their powers when more premiership success beckons?
“That’s just Joe,” said one Lions figure over the weekend when trying to explain the decision he had ahead of him.

Joe Daniher is yet to officially make a decision on his future, but those close to him believe it is very likely he has played his last game.

Daniher isn’t defined by money, isn’t defined by football and is every chance to vanish from the game to his home in Ocean Shores, never to be seen again.

Despite a contract for 2025 that will again pay him handsomely.

And yet as the 2024 AFL finals series shows, Daniher is everything to the Lions.

He kicked four goals and rescued them from oblivion against the GWS Giants; he took over in the ruck from Oscar McInerney in the preliminary final, and was so Joe in the Grand Final.

In other words, he tripped over trying to kick goals, had an air swing, missed two early shots, fluffed some lines and yet he still ended up being absolutely magnificent.

Daniher kicked the huge nerve-settler in the second quarter, had two direct goal assists to Cal Ah Chee, a dozen total score involvements and basically did as he pleased.

The Grand Final version of Daniher was the best we have ever seen – rag-dolling Brodie Grundy in the ruck to kick to Ah Chee, then selflessly squaring the ball to him at half-forward when he so often would have blazed away at goal.

He was mobbed by his teammates kicking a late snap goal, which for Daniher might be a perfect final note on a career of highs and lows.

Charlie Cameron hopes he has savoured every moment with Daniher as he awaits a decision.

“You just have to make the most of and enjoy the moments together,” Cameron said.

“It is pretty special to play alongside Joe for the last four years now. He has brought so much to our footy club, helped us out and even (in the grand final) he really helped us to get the win.

“He is a pretty special player.”

If he plays a final year, then Brisbane are the rightful $6 premiership favourites (currently ahead of Hawthorn and Sydney at $7 and Carlton at $8).

If he retires, the Lions’ key-forward options look awfully thin.

Gone is the bloke who has had eight big finals in the past three seasons, who has kicked 204 total goals in the past four seasons, and who makes that forward line tick.

The main tall becomes Eric Hipwood, who Chris Fagan admits is an agile half forward in the frame of a 203cm player, then second-year 191cm tall Logan Morris and ruck-forward Darcy Fort.

Darcy Gardiner, returning from a knee reconstruction, could play forward.

Ex-Hawk Brandon Ryan played only a single AFL game for two touches and averaged 1.6 goals and 1.4 contested marks in 16 VFL games, so being the focus of this forward line would be a huge leap.

The Lions would have $1 million of cap space, but no picks to get to the market and no time to secure a free agency forward given they are all off the market.

They would have to get mighty inventive. What are their options?

Essendon’s Jake Stringer is a goalkicker, but he’s not a tall in a side that already has mid-sizers Ah Chee, Kai Lohmann, Charlie Cameron, Cam Rayner, Zac Bailey and the returning Lincoln McCarthy.

Fort could play first ruck and Oscar McInerney could play key forward – while he kicked 14 goals in his 2018 season, Big O is very much a ruckman and not a leading forward.

Brisbane could ask the question of Richmond’s Tom Lynch, due $1.5 million next year.

But even if the Lions offered a two-year to allow them to spread out his salary, the Tigers would want a quality pick or mid-tier player for a player about to turn 32.

It would leave the Richmond forward line absolutely bereft of key targets.

And Brisbane already needs to find as many as 1000 extra draft points to secure Levi Ashcroft and Sam Marshall before it even considers how to draft for a Daniher replacement.

Others who could at least crash some packs include free agent Elliott Himmelberg, Levi Casboult, Matt Taberner and Sam Day.

But Himmelberg is likely heading to the Gold Coast, Taberner is exceptionally injury-prone and Day has played 18 AFL games in four years.

St Kilda free agent Tim Membrey is available and kicked 30.9 this year, but at 190cm he is another complementary part of a forward line, not the key target.

But there is no replacing Daniher. Key forwards in their prime just don’t leave their clubs without being traded or securing free agency compensation.

That is the Joe Daniher package, and while it won the Lions a flag, his likely departure leaves a gaping hole at full forward that is impossible to replace.
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Surely we could make a better offer than the Suns for Himmelberg. Maybe a shorter contract but same money for 2 years, a round 1 spot in the reigning premiership rather than the perpetual losers down the road
 
I think if he does leave the club would be remiss not to at least ask the question of Lynch.

I know we need picks etc, but the thing we'd have in our favour is we have money to be able to spread out the contract, and I'm sure Richmond would be willing to at least chat about getting a $1.5m player off their books who wont be there next year.

I'm sure between the two clubs they could come to some type of arrangement where maybe we give a little bit more on the pick/salary front, if they give a bit back late to make up the points. The other element to this is them holding pick 1, I'm sure there could be a little wink wink type arrangement not to bid on Levi either.
 
Nathan Barley said:
Surely we could make a better offer than the Suns for Himmelberg. Maybe a shorter contract but same money for 2 years, a round 1 spot in the reigning premiership rather than the perpetual losers down the road
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We could park Big O in forward line and get Henry to step up and take over the first ruck duties. I believe Henry is ready for primary ruck and we need to get him into the role.
 
Squizz89 said:

Ralph: The impact of Joe Daniher’s decision on Brisbane’s premiership chances and who even replaces him?​

Who would walk away from a $1 million contract at the peak of their powers when more premiership success beckons?
“That’s just Joe,” said one Lions figure over the weekend when trying to explain the decision he had ahead of him.

Joe Daniher is yet to officially make a decision on his future, but those close to him believe it is very likely he has played his last game.

Daniher isn’t defined by money, isn’t defined by football and is every chance to vanish from the game to his home in Ocean Shores, never to be seen again.

Despite a contract for 2025 that will again pay him handsomely.

And yet as the 2024 AFL finals series shows, Daniher is everything to the Lions.

He kicked four goals and rescued them from oblivion against the GWS Giants; he took over in the ruck from Oscar McInerney in the preliminary final, and was so Joe in the Grand Final.

In other words, he tripped over trying to kick goals, had an air swing, missed two early shots, fluffed some lines and yet he still ended up being absolutely magnificent.

Daniher kicked the huge nerve-settler in the second quarter, had two direct goal assists to Cal Ah Chee, a dozen total score involvements and basically did as he pleased.

The Grand Final version of Daniher was the best we have ever seen – rag-dolling Brodie Grundy in the ruck to kick to Ah Chee, then selflessly squaring the ball to him at half-forward when he so often would have blazed away at goal.

He was mobbed by his teammates kicking a late snap goal, which for Daniher might be a perfect final note on a career of highs and lows.

Charlie Cameron hopes he has savoured every moment with Daniher as he awaits a decision.

“You just have to make the most of and enjoy the moments together,” Cameron said.

“It is pretty special to play alongside Joe for the last four years now. He has brought so much to our footy club, helped us out and even (in the grand final) he really helped us to get the win.

“He is a pretty special player.”

If he plays a final year, then Brisbane are the rightful $6 premiership favourites (currently ahead of Hawthorn and Sydney at $7 and Carlton at $8).

If he retires, the Lions’ key-forward options look awfully thin.

Gone is the bloke who has had eight big finals in the past three seasons, who has kicked 204 total goals in the past four seasons, and who makes that forward line tick.

The main tall becomes Eric Hipwood, who Chris Fagan admits is an agile half forward in the frame of a 203cm player, then second-year 191cm tall Logan Morris and ruck-forward Darcy Fort.

Darcy Gardiner, returning from a knee reconstruction, could play forward.

Ex-Hawk Brandon Ryan played only a single AFL game for two touches and averaged 1.6 goals and 1.4 contested marks in 16 VFL games, so being the focus of this forward line would be a huge leap.

The Lions would have $1 million of cap space, but no picks to get to the market and no time to secure a free agency forward given they are all off the market.

They would have to get mighty inventive. What are their options?

Essendon’s Jake Stringer is a goalkicker, but he’s not a tall in a side that already has mid-sizers Ah Chee, Kai Lohmann, Charlie Cameron, Cam Rayner, Zac Bailey and the returning Lincoln McCarthy.

Fort could play first ruck and Oscar McInerney could play key forward – while he kicked 14 goals in his 2018 season, Big O is very much a ruckman and not a leading forward.

Brisbane could ask the question of Richmond’s Tom Lynch, due $1.5 million next year.

But even if the Lions offered a two-year to allow them to spread out his salary, the Tigers would want a quality pick or mid-tier player for a player about to turn 32.

It would leave the Richmond forward line absolutely bereft of key targets.

And Brisbane already needs to find as many as 1000 extra draft points to secure Levi Ashcroft and Sam Marshall before it even considers how to draft for a Daniher replacement.

Others who could at least crash some packs include free agent Elliott Himmelberg, Levi Casboult, Matt Taberner and Sam Day.

But Himmelberg is likely heading to the Gold Coast, Taberner is exceptionally injury-prone and Day has played 18 AFL games in four years.

St Kilda free agent Tim Membrey is available and kicked 30.9 this year, but at 190cm he is another complementary part of a forward line, not the key target.

But there is no replacing Daniher. Key forwards in their prime just don’t leave their clubs without being traded or securing free agency compensation.

That is the Joe Daniher package, and while it won the Lions a flag, his likely departure leaves a gaping hole at full forward that is impossible to replace.
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Ha Ha.

We won the flag by 10 goals 2 days ago and already Ralphy telling us why we're in trouble.

Wait until we get Levi and Marshall. The sourpuss on everything non Vic will want to completely overhaul the draft rules.
 

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mpal6 said:
We could park Big O in forward line and get Henry to step up and take over the first ruck duties. I believe Henry is ready for primary ruck and we need to get him into the role.
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I think we misremember Oscars performances as a forward, he wasnt good and I'm not sure he's likely to have got better

Himmelberg is at least big and mobile so can make more contests
 
Nathan Barley said:
I think we misremember Oscars performances as a forward, he wasnt good and I'm not sure he's likely to have got better

Himmelberg is at least big and mobile so can make more contests
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You keep pushing Himmer but he’s never kicked 30 goals in a season let alone been reliable for Adelaide at times to suggest him being our number one or 2 forward is hilariously ridiculous
 

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Nathan Barley said:
In massive trouble?

Forget Stringer, nobody wants him. He'll be in prison in the next 5-10 years
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Nobody wants him is not true though he’s been pursued by the Swans you obviously don’t like him that’s fine personally I don’t either but the guy is a 50 goals a season forward I prefer him over Himmer
 
blueiris said:
Nobody wants him is not true though he’s been pursued by the Swans you obviously don’t like him that’s fine personally I don’t either but the guy is a 50 goals a season forward I prefer him over Himmer
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You realise Stringer hasn't kicked 50 goals in a season for 9 years?

Also Stringer wouldn't replace Joe, he'd replace Morris and then we'd still need someone to replace Joe

Just so stupid on so many levels
 
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