List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[CapitalA]

I just don’t understand anyone who doesn’t want to bring in Bolton. Just look at his resume: 2x premiership player, 8 x Finals (only Walter:13 and Fyfe:11 have played more than this on our list) and still 25 years old (turns 26 in December) Walters turns 34 in January so he’s 8 years younger than Walters. Kicked 40+ goals just two years ago and has kicked 30+ last year and this year in a basket case team.
Yes, his contract is high, but we can renegotiate that by extending and smoothing or buying cap from space from Richmond (who seem willing)
I personally hope it’s our first and last 1st rounder but can see a world where we pony up best two picks if Richmond pay some serious money ($400+ for length of contract). It’s just all win-win for a player who addresses our biggest list need.

I want Bolton but not for our 2 best draft picks. Max I would pay is our best 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder whether it be the saints pick or a future 2nd. No good club who actually plays finals pays two top 10 picks for a mid forward.
If we pay two top 10 picks it would be one of the most expensive trades ever, we will look like fools.

 

[dont bowl there]

Yeah, absolutely real.

But Expect Melbourne to dig in their heels. Just signed Viney and Gawn, they want to go again.

Losing Petracca would have to result in a massive win for them.

Last two off seasons they have offered Oliver up for trade and now Tracc wants out. Even if they both stay that is such a big red flag on the club.

 

[DragoDelph]

Last two off seasons they have offered Oliver up for trade and now Tracc wants out. Even if they both stay that is such a big red flag on the club.

Yeah, it sucks that Rivers and Pickett both signed long deals last year (?)

If they were out of contract, think we'd be a good sniff.

 

[Dockeroo]

Just saw the pies fans on X demanding a first round pick for John Noble

2

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

.

Yeah that’s enough nuffie trade talk for today for me thanks.

 

[Ge3ks]

Just saw the pies fans on X demanding a first round pick for John Noble.

Yeah that’s enough nuffie trade talk for today for me thanks.

Bear in mind, these are the guys that gave a top 10 pick and a 2nd for Lachie Schultz.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

From this, you are implying Darcy is literally the only injured AFL player with a poor metabolism?

There are ~ 600 AFL players over 20yo and 598 of them are ripped. But Sean has the only dodgy metabolism?

How is this even a thing?

The big fella just likes to eat and enjoys getting on the piss. It's obvious. The whole argument people are using about him being injured so he can't help but get fat is bullshit. Calories in versus calories out people. Consume too many your body stores the surplus as bodyfat. Consume too few the body burns bodyfat for fuel to compensate. If his metabolism is slow then he needs to be even more switched on when it comes to this stuff.

 

[Taylor]

I still maintain that I'd prefer a chubby 200cm+ player with a big cuddly dad to work with to build an AFL player over the tall twig who comes from parents who look like they come from a long line of vegans.

 

[apuchar]

I still maintain that I'd prefer a chubby 200cm+ player with a big cuddly dad to work with to build an AFL player over the tall twig who comes from parents who look like they come from a long line of vegans.

That was the thinking. Easier and quicker to trim down than build up. Hasn't quite panned out that way yet.

 

[dont bowl there]

The big fella just likes to eat and enjoys getting on the piss. It's obvious. The whole argument people are using about him being injured so he can't help but get fat is bullshit. Calories in versus calories out people. Consume too many your body stores the surplus as bodyfat. Consume too few the body burns bodyfat for fuel to compensate. If his metabolism is slow then he needs to be even more switched on when it comes to this stuff.

He even came out and said he got on the piss too much. Probably a case of following some other players but not having the body to get away with it.

 

[Taylor]

That was the thinking. Easier and quicker to trim down than build up. Hasn't quite panned out that way yet.

I think it's working, it can work better, but if we could pack size on guys easily then Amiss and Erasmus would be gorillas already and guys like Zac Clarke would be playing AFL still, actually he might have retired a year or so ago by now.

 

[gaskin]

Petracca is real.
It's going on and on, so where there is smoke

The funny thing is according to Sam Edmund on SEN that Melbourne have no idea what his actual issue/s are. You would have to think that if he won't even tell them the problem that he is pretty much out the door mentally.

 

[Alfonz]

We need to use a first rounder on a kid in the next year or two yeah?

I believe Chapman-Amiss-Erasmus satisfy the 2-in-previous-4-years rule for the 2024 trade period, and Amiss-Erasmus satisfies the rule for the 2025 trade period. So in theory over the next two years we could trade all our firsts from 2024, 2025 and 2026. Even 2027 (will be allowed in 2025).

But probably wise to use one this year, or we will be falling behind on the rule (which has exemptions, but good luck getting the AFL to give us an exemption for anything). And would be potentially sitting out the first round of the draft for a very long time.

 

[Mogumber]

I still maintain that I'd prefer a chubby 200cm+ player with a big cuddly dad to work with to build an AFL player over the tall twig who comes from parents who look like they come from a long line of vegans.

Unless there are on $900k a year allegedly, and only play half the season

 

[Superkoops]

Petracca is real.
It's going on and on, so where there is smoke

He has no interest in going interstate if that is what you’re inferring.

 

[Taylor]

Unless there are on $900k a year allegedly, and only play half the season

I argue that he is only performing at all because he was always a big boy.

 

[arsesmart]

The big fella just likes to eat and enjoys getting on the piss. It's obvious. The whole argument people are using about him being injured so he can't help but get fat is bullshit. Calories in versus calories out people. Consume too many your body stores the surplus as bodyfat. Consume too few the body burns bodyfat for fuel to compensate. If his metabolism is slow then he needs to be even more switched on when it comes to this stuff.

So what do you know about human biology and metabolism?

Here’s How Your Genes Impact Your Ability to Lose Weight

Darcy is also often credited with being one of the more determined and professional preparers.

 

[s_wd6]

The big fella just likes to eat and enjoys getting on the piss. It's obvious. The whole argument people are using about him being injured so he can't help but get fat is bullshit. Calories in versus calories out people. Consume too many your body stores the surplus as bodyfat. Consume too few the body burns bodyfat for fuel to compensate. If his metabolism is slow then he needs to be even more switched on when it comes to this stuff.

If his metabolism is slow he should take ozempic

 

[Torree]

I saw Sean running laps at preseason training earlier this year and thought he was looking lean and fit prior to his surgery. So I do think he worked hard in the off season.

 

[FreoRicci]

I still maintain that I'd prefer a chubby 200cm+ player with a big cuddly dad to work with to build an AFL player over the tall twig who comes from parents who look like they come from a long line of vegans.

Darcy v English in the same draft. Big bodied v skinny rake at time of draft.
Pick 19 v 38.

English has made AA by 2023. Is skinny, has been bulking up.
130 games played
45 games in 2023 and 2024

Darcy. 110 games played.
27 games in 2023 and 2024.

 

[s_wd6]

Darcy v English in the same draft. Big bodied v skinny rake at time of draft.
Pick 19 v 38.

English has made AA by 2023. Is skinny, has been bulking up.
130 games played
45 games in 2023 and 2024

Darcy. 110 games played.
27 games in 2023 and 2024.

Darcy should’ve made AA in 2021. Much better than fatanui

 

[malpaso]

I saw Sean running laps at preseason training earlier this year and thought he was looking lean and fit prior to his surgery. So I do think he worked hard in the off season.

Yeah I remember posts saying he looked trim and ready to go, didn't look like he dawdled in the preseason. He's just been hampered and it's affected his ability to keep his fitness up.
The attackers on here are really out of line and should pay more respect to our #1 ruck and big difference maker in our form.

 

[SPEEDWAGON]

id revisit fyfe forward next year - competing with sturt for his spot

walters retire

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

So what do you know about human biology and metabolism?

Here’s How Your Genes Impact Your Ability to Lose Weight

Darcy is also often credited with being one of the more determined and professional preparers.

I saw Sean running laps at preseason training earlier this year and thought he was looking lean and fit prior to his surgery. So I do think he worked hard in the off season.

Not saying he doesn't work hard. You can't outwork a bad diet.

 

[malpaso]

id revisit fyfe forward next year - competing with sturt for his spot

walters retire

They'll both get farewell games at some point and they are invaluable in training and for all our young players.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

They'll both get farewell games at some point and they are invaluable in training and for all our young players.

If JOM and those two are best 22 in round 1 next year we are in trouble.