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List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

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Cannot believe Brodie is averaging 35+ and Erasmus too for Peel, yet the coaches highly value JOM’s leadership.
This is why we’re a joke with culture.

We’re scared to drop any leaders. Scared to say nah you’re not good enough at 30, it’s time to retire.
Instead we push out De Boer at 26, yet JOM is sticking around.

Fremantle will never be serious with the contracts given out.

2 more years of it.

If Sturt and Brodie leaves, the whole department is a joke. Thought the club have changed, moved on from sentimentality but nope, this season it’s obvious.
JOM hasn’t had the best couple of weeks but just a few weeks ago had 20 possessions and 2 goals (west coast game) and 21 possessions against Melbourne.

He has been nowhere near as bad as you and others have made out.

He had an interrupted pre-season and has filled a number of different roles. His error against Geelong where he played on was a howler but I don’t have a big problem with his recruitment which was essentially a mid to late second round pick and adding some experience to a very young side.

He has essentially pushed Will Brodie out of the side. JOM being added will not be the reason we lose Sturt or Banfield.

For what it’s worth I hope Sturt stays and Banfield is the one who is shaken out of the tree. It will probably be the other way around.
 

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JOM hasn’t had the best couple of weeks but just a few weeks ago had 20 possessions and 2 goals (west coast game) and 21 possessions against Melbourne.

He has been nowhere near as bad as you and others have made out.

He had an interrupted pre-season and has filled a number of different roles. His error against Geelong where he played on was a howler but I don’t have a big problem with his recruitment which was essentially a mid to late second round pick and adding some experience to a very young side.

He has essentially pushed Will Brodie out of the side. JOM being added will not be the reason we lose Sturt or Banfield.

For what it’s worth I hope Sturt stays and Banfield is the one who is shaken out of the tree. It will probably be the other way around.
Do you feel JOM has a net positive over say Erasmus, Brodie or NOD?
Recruiting a 30 year old means we’re contending for a flag NOW. Clearly that’s not going to happen, so you have to argue why he’s in the team at this point.
 
They can keep rolling their picks over. Top end talent leaving have given them more high end draft picks but player turnover has them never with a fully settled team. It's more of a draft snowball affect.

Their early on mini draft concessions has allowed this to happen.

Freo started off with almost nothing. Even when GWS are playing well still play in an empty small stadium
Well it was 30 years ago.

We have had plenty of time to get our shit together.

We didn't handle the post 2012-2015 period well.

We can whinge about being set up to fail from the get go unlike GWS.

But that doesn't excuse the last 9 seasons for 1 finals appearance.

We have had enough resources for 20 years to be doing better and expecting more sustainable success even without the premierships.
 
Well it was 30 years ago.

We have had plenty of time to get our shit together.

We didn't handle the post 2012-2015 period well.

We can whinge about being set up to fail from the get go unlike GWS.

But that doesn't excuse the last 9 seasons for 1 finals appearance.

We have had enough resources for 20 years to be doing better and expecting more sustainable success even without the premierships.
That what makes me worried now.

We are in a good spot. Just need to be patient, and not waste this great platform we have.

Freo of old would over pay for B grade players.

Baker, Warner, two solid smalls pockets and we are set.
 
Seriously need a one on one defender as well.
Hawthorn are proactive in going after Barass.
Just couldn’t trust Pearce to not break down or have some random freak injury.
Cox after a serious hamstring suddenly looks slow.

Draper and Davies aren’t the best height.

Still can’t believe didn’t offer Hamling two years on minimum money.
 
Seriously need a one on one defender as well.
Hawthorn are proactive in going after Barass.
Just couldn’t trust Pearce to not break down or have some random freak injury.
Cox after a serious hamstring suddenly looks slow.

Draper and Davies aren’t the best height.

Still can’t believe didn’t offer Hamling two years on minimum money.
We did offer Hamling two years on minimum money. He then got offended that we offered him minimum money and pissed off to Sydney. Where he's so much more valued, clearly.
 

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JOM hasn’t had the best couple of weeks but just a few weeks ago had 20 possessions and 2 goals (west coast game) and 21 possessions against Melbourne.

He has been nowhere near as bad as you and others have made out.

He had an interrupted pre-season and has filled a number of different roles. His error against Geelong where he played on was a howler but I don’t have a big problem with his recruitment which was essentially a mid to late second round pick and adding some experience to a very young side.

He has essentially pushed Will Brodie out of the side. JOM being added will not be the reason we lose Sturt or Banfield.

For what it’s worth I hope Sturt stays and Banfield is the one who is shaken out of the tree. It will probably be the other way around.
If Sturt is traded and Banfield is given a new contract that would be just outrageous.
 
But it’s not just “3 very important guys”. It’s the 3 most structurally important players across the ground.
It’s not about needing to be injury free. It’s about not having those 3 specific players injured at the same time.

Any one of them out, sure we can generally cover for, and compensate around the ground- but all three at the same time is a critical hit to our entire structure and we (or any team) are always going to be up against it.

Injuries happen yes, but this is not something that happens to every team.
Yeah and if Clark, Young and Serong were injured people there would be just as many apologists on here saying they were our three most important players out.
It's just amother coping strategy to avoid confronting the truth that we were the masters of our own destiny and shat the bed again
 
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I am happy for Sam that he is pretty much put to bed the idea he is not an AFL quality player. I would rather we kept him but I somehow think this is really about as good as he is going to be get and any further gains are going to be incremental and experience based. It's not wrist slashing time if he leaves.

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9 and 10 for Bolton and Baker is overs, but is about what we’d need to pay and even then Richmond will want more.

If they get super greedy with Bolton I’d leave it. Offer Saints 2nd rounder for Baker.

Pop 9 and 10 on table for Warner.
 
I am happy for Sam that he is pretty much put to bed the idea he is not an AFL quality player. I would rather we kept him but I somehow think this is really about as good as he is going to be get and any further gains are going to be incremental and experience based. It's not wrist slashing time if he leaves.

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He has been consistent. We lose Sturt with Schulz last year.
What we left with ? Banfield and Frederick.
 

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Yeah and if Clark, Young and Serong were injured people there would be just as many apologists on here saying they were our three most important players out.
It's just amother coping strategy to avoid confronting the truth that we were the masters of our own destiny and shat the bed again
Agree to disagree. Don’t think it’s the same thing.

FWIW I agree we were the masters of our destiny etc. and I’m as dirty as anyone for where we are - but the damage was already done in the umpteenth shartings of the bed earlier in the season, which put us in the position of needing to beat a rampaging GWS away without our spine.
 
Why would Freo be uninterested in Liam Ryan?
Take Banfield out of our side and insert Ryan we win against GWS and who knows how many others.
Probs wouldn't have to pay an arm and a leg for him either.
 
Why would Freo be uninterested in Liam Ryan?
Take Banfield out of our side and insert Ryan we win against GWS and who knows how many others.
Probs wouldn't have to pay an arm and a leg for him either.
He’s a lazy highlight package. Nope
 
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