List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Dockeroo]

I’m fine with Martin. Actually believe he’s pretty silky when fit. Would be Carlton’s best 22 if not injured. Will cost nothing and might be a valuable (and cheap) pick up similar to Sharp. Will give us 2 years till we go after Pickett and/or Motlop.

At least for once we weren’t the ones who paid $4m for him when he left Gold Coast. Would essentially been on Jackson’s wage in today’s value.

Haha Please never mention Motlop and Pickett in the same breath again.
Unless you are talking about marlion Pickett. And he’s still more use than Motlop

 

[Sewell21]

The problem with Martin will be the same as OMeara. Players with an injury history but big wraps on them so we act like we owe them a spot in the 23 and play them each week regardless of form. Its like we get enchanted by their potential of 5 years ago!

Martin is unlikely to come on a 1 year, minimum wage ‘prove it’ deal. We will do something stupid and be offering 3 years, or 2 with a trigger. What ever we pay it will be way overs for what we get in return.

 

[chaosball32]

If Bolton is in the bag, and we’ve told Martin to request a trade to us, does that mean we aren’t pursuing Pickett? Surely we aren’t bringing in 3 small forwards in one off season?

The only scenario I’m okay with Martin coming in is strictly as depth for Bolton and Pickett, not for one or the other.

Whilst I don’t expect the club to bring in 3 small forwards in the same off-season, I don’t think it’s entirely unrealistic either. With Schultz gone, Switta rumoured to leave, Walters soon to retire, and no guarantee on Emmett, Simpson or Delean, it’s a clear area on our list that we need to improve ASAP.

 

[mayne iac]

That was the coach overriding the medicos. That was a selection issue , nothing to do with the strength/conditioning/rehab.

All on Jlo there.

Really? We're you in those meetings when J Lo over rode the docs?

 

[Purple Suit]

That was the coach overriding the medicos. That was a selection issue , nothing to do with the strength/conditioning/rehab.

All on Jlo there.

I call Bullshit. In hindsight, Pearce shouldn’t have had a plate inserted but do you think Jlo is the one telling surgeons to just do it?

If he goes the tradition heal without the plate, he’s out for the year anyway.

 

[freo1997]

Really? We're you in those meetings when J Lo over rode the docs?

It’s pretty obvious he was rushed back. Darcy wasn’t fit enough too and was played v Essendon as he didn’t want to back in Reidy. Eg; Tabs was played v Geelong week after too before bringing in an unknown Reidy.

He played these against medical advice. He would’ve got the green light from the players but at the end of the day the medicos should’ve held their own and said no.

 

[Madas]

I just hope if we get Martin we treat him like a depth player and he doesn't occupy a spot regardless of form like a few senior players have this season.

He certainly looks better than Emmet

Getting Bennel vibes though ( maybe not the off field stuff )

It is an area of need so I can see why they are rolling the dice and probably won’t cost much
Probably keeps Copper Simpson in the WAFL for another year or 2 though

Maybe the first few times he plays they’ll forget he’s Freo and give him Carlton credits

 

[s_wd6]

It’s pretty obvious he was rushed back. Darcy wasn’t fit enough too and was played v Essendon as he didn’t want to back in Reidy. Eg; Tabs was played v Geelong week after too before bringing in an unknown Reidy.

He played these against medical advice. He would’ve got the green light from the players but at the end of the day the medicos should’ve held their own and said no.

Yeah this just doesn't happen. If a player is selected it means the medical team has ticked it off. Not being at 100% does not mean they're medically unfit to play.

It's the coach who's deciding if a 70% Darcy is better than a 100% Reid, but he's not overruling medical advice.

 

[freo1997]

But full credit goes to our strength and conditioning team. So much improvement compared to the Ross Lyon days ( Webber was his name right?)

Getting OMac back for a couple of Peel games, Cox albeit not great form, Noddy up and running 2nd half of the year. Tabs body is cooked and they’ve managed to keep him moving.

That Merriman has worked wonders. Everybody knew Pearce shouldn’t of been brought back so quickly..just horrendous by Jlo and the selectors.

 

[freo1997]

Yeah this just doesn't happen. If a player is selected it means the medical team has ticked it off. Not being at 100% does not mean they're medically unfit to play.

It's the coach who's deciding if a 70% Darcy is better than a 100% Reid, but he's not overruling medical advice.

How about Petracca? Going back out there in his conditioning.

 

[Stinky Lomax]

But full credit goes to our strength and conditioning team. So much improvement compared to the Ross Lyon days ( Webber was his name right?)

Getting OMac back for a couple of Peel games, Cox albeit not great form, Noddy up and running 2nd half of the year. Tabs body is cooked and they’ve managed to keep him moving.

That Merriman has worked wonders. Everybody knew Pearce shouldn’t have been brought back so quickly..just horrendous by Jlo and the selectors.

There’s no doubt the medical team would have said he can play but there a risks.

It happens at all teams at any level often, you just have an agenda.

 

[freo1997]

There’s no doubt the medical team would have said he can play but there a risks.

It happens at all teams at any level often, you just have an agenda.

Just stating facts he was rushed back with a fractured arm. Can’t imagine the medical department thinking that was a good idea.

 

[Taylor]

I hope freo offers pick #150 for Martin and walks away so Carlton end up taking nothing for him, delist him because he has no contract offer, and then we SSP him into the rookie list like Sharp.

Gold Coast look at our move and feel a sense of justice completing the circle and give us a pick to take Rosas contracted.

 

[FreoRicci]

The problem with Martin will be the same as OMeara. Players with an injury history but big wraps on them so we act like we owe them a spot in the 23 and play them each week regardless of form. Its like we get enchanted by their potential of 5 years ago!

Martin is unlikely to come on a 1 year, minimum wage ‘prove it’ deal. We will do something stupid and be offering 3 years, or 2 with a trigger. What ever we pay it will be way overs for what we get in return.

Guaranteed it’ll be 3-4 years. We just love the ‘potential’ but injured WA players.

Gumbleton
Hogan
JOM
Martin
Bennell

It make sense

 

[oldgoat]

How about Petracca? Going back out there in his conditioning.

Whats Trac got to do with Freo?
Is that down to JL too?

 

[oldgoat]

There’s no doubt the medical team would have said he can play but there a risks.

It happens at all teams at any level often, you just have an agenda.

Big Fat Weird Agenda too?

 

[Purple Suit]

Just stating facts he was rushed back with a fractured arm. Can’t imagine the medical department thinking that was a good idea.

You’re not speaking facts, just your opinion. It’s incorrect saying it’s the coaches sole decision when it’s the medical department & doctors guiding it.

Not rushing him back means not putting a plate in and waiting till Finals till his arm is healed. So they only difference is he doesn’t play half a game against Melbourne.

If you want to complain about something, pick a thing that impacted us.

 

[Swiggy]

Its a major list weakness and Sonny only has a year left, this is exactly what we should bed doing

If Pickett doesn't come I won't be surprised if we pick Berry

Don’t think freo will use its first pick on a small forward if they bring 2 in via trade

 

[Swiggy]

If Bolton is in the bag, and we’ve told Martin to request a trade to us, does that mean we aren’t pursuing Pickett? Surely we aren’t bringing in 3 small forwards in one off season?

Pickett isn’t coming, he never requested a trade because he knows Melbourne aren’t open to trading him

 

[pK75]

Its a major list weakness and Sonny only has a year left, this is exactly what we should bed doing

If Pickett doesn't come I won't be surprised if we pick Berry

Martin makes sense if we’re also planning on taking Berry in the draft, Martin replaces Walters for 2 years while Berry develops his body/game at peel, I don’t think Martin makes sense if we’re also targeting Pickett, who’d start ahead of him.
Bolton is already replacing Emmett/Banfield.
Martin also makes sense if we’re having a red hot crack at Warner.

 

[Swiggy]

Martin makes sense if we’re also planning on taking Berry in the draft, Martin replaces Walters for 2 years while Berry develops his body/game at peel, I don’t think Martin makes sense if we’re also targeting Pickett, who’d start ahead of him.
Bolton is already replacing Emmett/Banfield.
Martin also makes sense if we’re having a red hot crack at Warner.

Still not sold they take berry even if he’s available. Took Simpson & Dealan last year. Martin might be the stop gap for them.

 

[Dockeroo]

Will never forget Gold Coast acting like unreasonable pricks when we tried to trade in Jeremy Sharp a year early, but handing out freebies to everyone else in trades, literally every year.
w***ers

 

[Polo342]

Pickett isn’t coming, he never requested a trade because he knows Melbourne aren’t open to trading him

We can still hope though right haha? I find it a bit odd that Walters mentioned him a few times in that West Article. But hay thats just me being optimistic.

 

[go_the_dockers]

https://archive.md/OG8Nw

Some general trade gossip, nothing fremantle related if you are interested.

 

[pK75]

Still not sold they take berry even if he’s available. Took Simpson & Dealan last year. Martin might be the stop gap for them.

I think Berry is our plan B, plan A is still Bolton, Warner and Martin.
Plan B, Bolton, Martin, take a first round pick to the draft, potentially extort someone for a F1 (with Warner in mind) and then take best available with whatever is left, we may prefer Goss or another player no one is even taking about.