List Mgmt. 2024 List Mgmt

[kernelT]

Too soon?

As our resident bird_man has flown the coop and there's not much else on, may as well get going on where this is at.

Seems like we're hitting crunch point with delistees this year with only Allison being directly in the gun and the next tier down is Pato, Hayes and TC.
After that we're losing some proper good football players as none of the 2021-22 kids seem likely to be let go.
After this year we might not need to retire anyone till 2026/27 and we'll be on the up. Good times ahead.

Where's bird_man @ ?

 

[ScrappyDo]

Where's bird_man @ ?

 

[saintmike65]

That’s gold!!

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I believe a club is only required to move on 3 players a season? I'm hoping we make the minimum number of changes (unless there's a bunch of guns that are nominating to come to us and we need to clear spots for them).

Most likely gone

Allison
Paton
Campbell
McLennan

Good chance to be moved on

Ross (respectfully, i hope he's forced out by the improvement of Windy, Dow, Owens, Byrnes, Wilson, Pou, Hotton etc)
Jones (unless he can prove his injuries are under control)
Hayes (same as Jones)
Webster (Simply an age factor and possible growth of Stocker, Paton, Hastie, Bonner, McLennan etc)
Howard (don't want to lose him, especially for nothing but just have a feeling he might move on)
Membrey (same as Howard, only more devastating personally)

Moderate to low chance

Battle (just because of trade rumours)
Stocker (was surprised he had to wait so long for a contract extension. Hope we extend him for a couple this year)
Heath (doesn't make sense to drop him so early on. I suspect he'll get a modest extension)
Bonner (DFA's tend to only get a year more often than not. Hope he has a good season and hangs around)
Hotton (will need to show a fair bit of improvement but I have some faith he'll get a modest extension)
Byrnes (same as Hotton but with more credits in the bank)

No chance to be moved on

Sharman (can't wait for him this season. Seems like Membrey's spot is his for the taking)
Butler (You'd think he'd be one of the earliest announcements this year)
Keeler (Surely wasn't drafted to just watch for 2 years. Needs time and should get an extension)
Van Es (same as Keeler)
Wood (gun)
Phillipou (Sign up immediately please. 4 year deal)

FYI, below is the list of OOC players for 2024.

Angus McLennan Only one year on our list and played well at VFL. If he improves he might make it.
Ben Paton Well down the pecking order for anything but a lockdown small. Training as mid but lots of competition. Will struggle.
Cooper Sharman Sign him up.

Daniel Butler Sign him up.
Dougal Howard Sign him up.
Isaac Keeler Unless he goes backwards sign him up.
Jack Hayes. He'll need to be good, lots in front of him now. Will struggle , hopefully continue elsewhere.
James Van Es Sign him up unless he goes backwards
Jimmy Webster : Give him another year probably, unless Hastie or Schoenmaker can do his role better.
Josh Battle : Only if he chooses to go.
Liam Stocker : Sign him up.
Mason Wood : Another year or 2
Mattaes Phillipou SIGN NOW.
Matthew Allison Will need to improve remarkably. Out.
Max Heath I think he's heading in the right direction, the amount he improves might impact Campbell more.
Olli Hotton NFA Really hasn't played much VFL yet. Who knows.
Riley Bonner Depends how useful or not he is in 2024 and how the likes of Hastie are tracking.
Ryan Byrnes Could improve to the next level , or go below our noobs during 2024.
Sebastian Ross If he's pushed out by someone like Windhager he may choose to retire.
Tim Membrey Plenty of pressure for his spot , including Sharman, Phillipou and Owens. Retirement possible.
Tom Campbell We just have Roma, Moose, and Keeler. So it depends if we get someone else.
Zak Jones Depends if he can play the season out and play consistently.

A lot is going to depend on what happens during the season.

 

[bird_man]

Where's bird_man @ ?

I'm alive

 

[True Believer]

I'm alive

It's a miracle !!!!

 

[Murraj1966]

Apparently King about to re sign with GC so we can forget that

 

[SteeleSaints]

Big year for Max Heath.

RoMa will be 29 at the end of the year and we can't keep relying on him to ruck 90% of games, 25+ weeks of the year.

If Heath is still off the mark then I could see us making a play for someone to come in and split time.

Yep we need to find another AFL standard ruckman, whether that be Heath or Keeler or recruiting one but it needs to happen this year. The issue being that there isnt a huge number of excess ruckman in the system, and not a lot expected at this years draft. The perfect answer would
be for Heath to take some big steps to fill the void and grab another kid to develop under him.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Yep we need to find another AFL standard ruckman, whether that be Heath or Keeler or recruiting one but it needs to happen this year. The issue being that there isnt a huge number of excess ruckman in the system, and not a lot expected at this years draft. The perfect answer would
be for Heath to take some big steps to fill the void and grab another kid to develop under him.

There were a few in last years draft, but they seemed to get snatched up.

 

[gubby88]

Is there anyone here who can say what this interest in Ugle-Hagan is?

Allegedly (Facebook Allegedly, so grain of salt) some people have said there is a real chance he is saints bound?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Is there anyone here who can say what this interest in Ugle-Hagan is?

Allegedly (Facebook Allegedly, so grain of salt) some people have said there is a real chance he is saints bound?

From my logic, "why wouldn't he be?", but it may not stack up for everyone else.

 

[Premium]

From my logic, "why wouldn't he be?", but it may not stack up for everyone else.

Don't need to waste money on forwards having quality depth now , I see Ben King has signed with the Suns again - what a wasted talent up there.

Interesting thing I noticed today is how young Phillipou is - in his 2nd year at the club he is 3 mths older than Collard a 1st yr player , having already played 24 games the skys the limit.

 

[seasonedsainter]

Read that B King is getting a million a year on his two year contract at the Sun's. I would've thought seven figures per year would command more than 2 seasons, they must have too much money or Hens manager is a genius.

In terms of our drafting or trading, we still need to target a pure high quality midfielder. That, plus ruck stocks need refreshing; I think we'll see TC get some games this year to ease the load on Roma. Then, depending how current are progressing, a big KPD.

 

[bird_man]

Read that B King is getting a million a year on his two year contract at the Sun's. I would've thought seven figures per year would command more than 2 seasons, they must have too much money or Hens manager is a genius.

In terms of our drafting or trading, we still need to target a pure high quality midfielder. That, plus ruck stocks need refreshing; I think we'll see TC get some games this year to ease the load on Roma. Then, depending how current are progressing, a big KPD.

2 years takes him to FA

 

[ScrappyDo]

Is there anyone here who can say what this interest in Ugle-Hagan is?

Allegedly (Facebook Allegedly, so grain of salt) some people have said there is a real chance he is saints bound?

Hiw much do you think we need another tall forward?

 

[saintmike65]

Is there anyone here who can say what this interest in Ugle-Hagan is?

Allegedly (Facebook Allegedly, so grain of salt) some people have said there is a real chance he is saints bound?

there could be a connection with Dalrymple..

 

[gubby88]

Hiw much do you think we need another tall forward?

not a great deal i would have thought. more a ruck/forward if anything in the forward line

 

[ScrappyDo]

not a great deal i would have thought. more a ruck/forward if anything in the forward line

That probably answers it then. JUH would cost an absolute bomb in trade and money. We couldn't justify it any which way.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Thanks Davo-27
Davo-27's top 50

Post in thread 'Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread' https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2024-draft-thread.1374741/post-82962932

 

[SteeleSaints]

Just watched the VFL vs SANFL game, surely we can pluck a decent player there. Woodcock midfielder from Southport was good, as was Hosie a HF from Glenelg with 4 goals.

 

[gringo2011]

Just watched the VFL vs SANFL game, surely we can pluck a decent player there. Woodcock midfielder from Southport was good, as was Hosie a HF from Glenelg with 4 goals.

Woodcock is pretty unlucky to have not got another chance. He was a small forward at Port Adelaide but seems to be a bit more of a mid forward now. He won the JJ Liston a couple of years ago. Suns were going to pick him up at one point.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Woodcock is pretty unlucky to have not got another chance. He was a small forward at Port Adelaide but seems to be a bit more of a mid forward now. He won the JJ Liston a couple of years ago. Suns were going to pick him up at one point.

A small mid who can play forward and is ready to go would be handy. Although I think a rucking/forward ala Pike from Geelong Falcons should be a priority at the MSD.

Obviously we would have to make space on the list, but the way things are going we are bound to have someone on the LTI list by then.

I would delist Allison mid season and pay him out, but I dont know if you can do that?

 

[ScrappyDo]

A small mid who can play forward and is ready to go would be handy. Although I think a rucking/forward ala Pike from Geelong Falcons should be a priority at the MSD.

Obviously we would have to make space on the list, but the way things are going we are bound to have someone on the LTI list by then.

I would delist Allison mid season and pay him out, but I dont know if you can do that?

Can't delist Allison unfortunately, though l wonder if he could retire voluntarily. Anyway l wouldn't lose sleep over it, Pike doesn't solve any problems for us. He'd just be another long term prospect. They will doubtless pick a ruckman with our 1st or 2nd assuming there's a good one available.
I'd think it would be: 1-Mid, 2-Ruck, 3-Adrian Cole
though there's gonna have to be some tough decisions made to clear even 3 spots.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Can't delist Allison unfortunately, though l wonder if he could retire voluntarily. Anyway l wouldn't lose sleep over it, Pike doesn't solve any problems for us. He'd just be another long term prospect. They will doubtless pick a ruckman with our 1st or 2nd assuming there's a good one available.
I'd think it would be: 1-Mid, 2-Ruck, 3-Adrian Cole
though there's gonna have to be some tough decisions made to clear even 3 spots.

There other NGA's going ok also, plus young Peckett is looking the goods. Agree it will make the delisting/trade periods interesting.

Likely -
Allison delisted
Paton delisted/traded
Campell delisted/retired
Heath delisted - needs to take some huge steps to remain.
Plus as has been speculated there may be another traded out ala Clark/Jones.

Trade in - Ruckman

Draft - mid, ruckman/forward/small forward.

Rookie - Cole & Peckett

 

[goodie23]

There other NGA's going ok also, plus young Peckett is looking the goods. Agree it will make the delisting/trade periods interesting.

Likely -
Allison delisted
Paton delisted/traded
Campell delisted/retired
Heath delisted - needs to take some huge steps to remain.
Plus as has been speculated there may be another traded out ala Clark/Jones.

Trade in - Ruckman

Draft - mid, ruckman/forward/small forward.

Rookie - Cole & Peckett

We've swung and missed at getting a ruck the last few years and now we're in an awkward spot.

Unless we prise out a #1 ruck, get someone really young (18-20) or really old (30+), options are:

Name	Club	Age (rounded up, we're looking next year)	Career games	Contract expires
Ned Moyle	Gold Coast	22	3	End of 2024
Lloyd Meek	Hawthorn (previously Freo)	26	32	End of 2024
Hamish Free	North	26	0	End of 2024
Liam Reidy	Freo	24	0	End of 2024
Lachlan McAndrew	Sydney	24	2	End of 2024
Braydon Preuss	GWS (previously North & Melbourne)	29	28	End of 2024
Dante Visentini	Port	22	2	End of 2025
Nick Bryan	Essendon	23	14	End of 2025
Peter Ladhams	Sydney	27	52	End of 2025
Bailey J. Williams	West Coast	24	53	End of 2026 (RFA)
Ned Reeves	Hawthorn	26	40	End of 2026 (RFA)
Hayden McLean	Sydney	26	58	End of 2027 (RFA)