Training 2024 Preseason training reports and discussion

[M Malice]

With Jerrycans.

Boulders up the Glasshouse Mountains for the boys.

 

[M Malice]

I unsubscribed from his vlogs a few months ago after the Lions v Blues game in Melbourne when he was getting trollied and even before then was getting tired of his schtick. I’m sure he has a massive audience, but I’m just not it anymore.

IIRC he has about 40,000 subscribers, I wont be watching it again either.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Actually speaking of which, did anyone hear how the Berry lads went running their marathon? Fair effort.

70 grand raised or thereabouts.

 

[Dalions]

Boulders up the Glasshouse Mountains for the boys.

 

[Dalions]

Craig Starcevich after the AFLW grand final said that the boys were doing their 2k time trial on the next day which would have been Monday.

2km?

 

[Mighty Lions]

Craig Starcevich after the AFLW grand final said that the boys were doing their 2k time trial on the next day which would have been Monday.

Think he got the wrong info. Time trials are scheduled for Saturday.

 

[Nunez]

Looking very lean. Hopefully that translates to a good time trial!

 

[M Malice]

Hopefully our media team get out to the time trial and do a report on it, love the behind the scenes stuff.

Lets see lots of BPs also please boys.

 

[rye]

my thoughts: people pay too much attn to the time trial and it has limited applications to endurance in football. neale has never been a top performer in time trials yet is one of the highest TOG% and centre bounce attendance midfielders in the game. andrews is similarly not known for his time trial results but is consistently in our highest players for distance tracked in a game. the endurance required to run a good 2km time might be broadly applicable to other aspects of footy, but in rayners case id be more interested in how many times he can repeat a sprint effort over the course of a game for example. unless youre a wingman i think its not really too important.

semi-related: sharp looks like hes put on mass. heres hoping he can break into the b22 next season. i was a doubter previously but thought he used his running pretty well to get into good positions when given a game this year. fletcher playing skinny side and sharp playing fat side wing would be a good combination for us.

 

[Nunez]

my thoughts: people pay too much attn to the time trial and it has limited applications to endurance in football. neale has never been a top performer in time trials yet is one of the highest TOG% and centre bounce attendance midfielders in the game. andrews is similarly not known for his time trial results but is consistently in our highest players for distance tracked in a game. the endurance required to run a good 2km time might be broadly applicable to other aspects of footy, but in rayners case id be more interested in how many times he can repeat a sprint effort over the course of a game for example. unless youre a wingman i think its not really too important.

semi-related: sharp looks like hes put on mass. heres hoping he can break into the b22 next season. i was a doubter previously but thought he used his running pretty well to get into good positions when given a game this year. fletcher playing skinny side and sharp playing fat side wing would be a good combination for us.

I do agree, however I think seeing time trial improvements from guys being held back due to their fitness is still valid. Outside of those select players, couldn't care about time trials at all.

 

[Elixuh]

Looking very lean. Hopefully that translates to a good time trial!


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I saw a news article where they interviewed Cam about Will being the missing piece to our flag or something along those lines. I remember thinking, Cam, it’s you bruh.

 

[Nunez]

I saw a news article where they interviewed Cam about Will being the missing piece to our flag or something along those lines. I remember thinking, Cam, it’s you bruh.

Four things in life are certain:

Death

Taxes

BRAB robbing people at Nerang station

&

Cam Rayner winning us a flag.

 

[SizeMatters]

my thoughts: people pay too much attn to the time trial and it has limited applications to endurance in football. neale has never been a top performer in time trials yet is one of the highest TOG% and centre bounce attendance midfielders in the game. andrews is similarly not known for his time trial results but is consistently in our highest players for distance tracked in a game. the endurance required to run a good 2km time might be broadly applicable to other aspects of footy, but in rayners case id be more interested in how many times he can repeat a sprint effort over the course of a game for example. unless youre a wingman i think its not really too important.

semi-related: sharp looks like hes put on mass. heres hoping he can break into the b22 next season. i was a doubter previously but thought he used his running pretty well to get into good positions when given a game this year. fletcher playing skinny side and sharp playing fat side wing would be a good combination for us.

I tend to think the time trials are more reflection of what work the players have been putting in over the off-season. I think you can do a quick comparison between previous seasons time trials in order to determine how they’ve worked in the time off so I think time trials are very useful tool, in keeping track of a player and their commitment to their craft. For example, if a players time trial results are slower substantially slower than previous years that probably means they haven’t been putting in the time required.

 

[Viceregal]

Four things in life are certain:

Death

Taxes

BRAB robbing people at Nerang station

&

Cam Rayner winning us a flag.

Not true!

You can do Death OR taxes (pay up or die)

Cam may not win us a flag or we might win one without him (a la McStay at the Pies)

I will grant you the Brab one!

 

[Clarkythelion]

Looking very lean. Hopefully that translates to a good time trial!


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I stood next to Cam at Brisbane airport about 3 weeks ago now when i was flying to Darwin he got on a flight to Melbourne - I would describe him then as a "lean mean running machine" he looked really fit and defined.

 

[Clarkythelion]

Actually speaking of which, did anyone hear how the Berry lads went running their marathon? Fair effort.

I saw a bit about it on the news a couple of times, they finished up at a local oval where they come from I think it was - the think that surprised me, and they were running without shirts, is how heavily strapped Berry's shoulder was just to run. It looked like match day strapping he needed just for the running action through one of his shoulders.

 

[Berrygood]

I saw a bit about it on the news a couple of times, they finished up at a local oval where they come from I think it was - the think that surprised me, and they were running without shirts, is how heavily strapped Berry's shoulder was just to run. It looked like match day strapping he needed just for the running action through one of his shoulders.

I hope that marathon hasn't delayed the healing or caused any further damage to that shoulder. It's a lot of running and jarring if it's just not quite right. I hope it doesn't turn out to be a dumb decision in the long run. I appreciate the cause and the funds raised was amazing, I hope it doesn't hurt his season.

 

[twhowler]

my thoughts: people pay too much attn to the time trial and it has limited applications to endurance in football. neale has never been a top performer in time trials yet is one of the highest TOG% and centre bounce attendance midfielders in the game. andrews is similarly not known for his time trial results but is consistently in our highest players for distance tracked in a game. the endurance required to run a good 2km time might be broadly applicable to other aspects of footy, but in rayners case id be more interested in how many times he can repeat a sprint effort over the course of a game for example. unless youre a wingman i think its not really too important.

semi-related: sharp looks like hes put on mass. heres hoping he can break into the b22 next season. i was a doubter previously but thought he used his running pretty well to get into good positions when given a game this year. fletcher playing skinny side and sharp playing fat side wing would be a good combination for us.

as others have said the TT seems to not be crucial for everyone more about players such as Rayner and perhaps Bailey to show they have made running a real priority.

Totally agree re Sharp, i was a bit iffy on him until his latest stint in the seniors. I thought he looked much improved. 2022 he had 3/5/7/10 possessions with no goals. This year he went 13/17/10 and kicked 2 goals. Just looked like he was figuring out senior football and getting some confidence about when to back himself, and his disposal had improved. He was always a project player so that instant debut perhaps created undue expectations. In his fourth season now, had 3 pre-seasons, i can definitely see him breaking in to the side, and could be a massive asset with his run. He is wasted as a sub because his real weapon will be running just as hard in red time as he does for the rest of the game. I hope he is being groomed as a real 2-way runner that helps us improves our defensive spread. If you think about our midfield mix, Neale, Bailey, Clugga and Rayner are all very much focused on attack. Berry and Dunkley probably the best at going the other way, one more in that mix could help balance us.

 

[Dalions]

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

as others have said the TT seems to not be crucial for everyone more about players such as Rayner and perhaps Bailey to show they have made running a real priority.

Totally agree re Sharp, i was a bit iffy on him until his latest stint in the seniors. I thought he looked much improved. 2022 he had 3/5/7/10 possessions with no goals. This year he went 13/17/10 and kicked 2 goals. Just looked like he was figuring out senior football and getting some confidence about when to back himself, and his disposal had improved. He was always a project player so that instant debut perhaps created undue expectations. In his fourth season now, had 3 pre-seasons, i can definitely see him breaking in to the side, and could be a massive asset with his run. He is wasted as a sub because his real weapon will be running just as hard in red time as he does for the rest of the game. I hope he is being groomed as a real 2-way runner that helps us improves our defensive spread. If you think about our midfield mix, Neale, Bailey, Clugga and Rayner are all very much focused on attack. Berry and Dunkley probably the best at going the other way, one more in that mix could help balance us.

I also think our spread in attack can mprove as well , or could or I think we need to.
We seem to spread too slow sometimes and don't use space to advantage as per grand final.
Would be fantastic to have a player able to do both, kind of like Butler does , those palyers that pop up everywhere.
But I also think spread in defence is a major priority.

 

[M Malice]

Gee Jarryd Lyons looks in bloody good nick.

 

[briztoon]

I saw a bit about it on the news a couple of times, they finished up at a local oval where they come from I think it was - the think that surprised me, and they were running without shirts, is how heavily strapped Berry's shoulder was just to run. It looked like match day strapping he needed just for the running action through one of his shoulders.

It’s been very noticeable in all the preseason photos, including today’s, how heavily strapped it is.

It’s also quite noticeable how much smaller Berry is through the shoulders, compared to Dunkley.

 

[Dalions]

It’s been very noticeable in all the preseason photos, including today’s, how heavily strapped it is.

It’s also quite noticeable how much smaller Berry is through the shoulders, compared to Dunkley.

He has mentioned before that he can’t do some exercises in the gym dues to his shoulders.
Bench press was the one specifically mentioned but there would be others.

 

[Dalions]

It’s been very noticeable in all the preseason photos, including today’s, how heavily strapped it is.

It’s also quite noticeable how much smaller Berry is through the shoulders, compared to Dunkley.

He has mentioned before that he can’t do some exercises in the gym due to his shoulders.
Bench press was the one specifically mentioned but there would be others.

 

[scoman]