Summer 2024 Summer Olympics - Bids and Games Talk
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I won't change OP until official confirmation, but yes almost a certainty not to bid
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Came up with an idea today.... Traditionally the olympics are hosted in a city. Where as world cups for most sports (soccer, cricket, rugby) are hosted in countries. Like everything, things have to adapt and modernise.
Why would the Olympics not change to be hosted by a country? Currently the process of finding a city with the facilities to host an Olympic Games is tough. But surely the net widens if they allow it to be hosted by a country. Most western countries would have most of the facilities required to host the Games if they wished to bid.
A country is far more likely to have all the required facilities than an individual city alone.
Not saying it is definitely a go, but just interested in opinions. And something more tangible then "It's always been hosted by a city, not by a country".
Why would the Olympics not change to be hosted by a country? Currently the process of finding a city with the facilities to host an Olympic Games is tough. But surely the net widens if they allow it to be hosted by a country. Most western countries would have most of the facilities required to host the Games if they wished to bid.
A country is far more likely to have all the required facilities than an individual city alone.
Not saying it is definitely a go, but just interested in opinions. And something more tangible then "It's always been hosted by a city, not by a country".
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This is what the Olympics Agenda 2020 is trying to do. It is trying to reduce costs of the games, by hosting over regions/countries rather than the one city. For example, South East Queensland are looking like they might bid which will include Sunshine and Gold Coasts as well as Brisbane. Malaysia and Singapore have been talked about for a joint bid as well. It will allow for smaller countries to make bids. Should be an interesting development. If only you thought about this 2 years ago ... 
https://www.olympic.org/olympic-agenda-2020
https://www.olympic.org/olympic-agenda-2020
Every second alert I get on fb is from the Olympic channel.
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LA will get it.
It's being reported that the IOC has struck a deal with Los Angeles to withdraw from the 2024 bid; as the only other bid remaining, this means Paris will host 2024. In return the IOC has agreed to award 2028 to LA without going through a formal process.
How do the other bidders for 2028 feel about that?
More to the point - how do the other IOC members feel about not getting their Bribes from the 2028 bids?
Seriously - I love sports, but f*** the Olympics. World Champs is all we need.
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Given a 2028 city wouldn't be voted on until September 2021 under normal circumstances, no other city has made a formal bid by June this year when the IOC announced that they would award 2024+2028 together.
2008....2012....2016
Beijing..London...Rio
2020....2024....2028
Tokyo....Paris...Los Angeles
The only realistic candidates for 2028 would have been Toronto or another US city once a Euro city got 2024. Mexico City or a South American city wouldn't have won the bid based on financial, technical and security grounds. Time Zones come into play with NBC committing so much money up front so the Olympics are always going to be shared around these basic 3 time zones.
Oz has to make a bid for 2032 otherwise it has to wait until 2044.
If Australia bid for 2032 it has to be Melbourne (too soon for Sydney to go again). Bidding with Brisbane is on a hiding to nothing, it will never host an Olympics. Hopefully there has been some change at the AOC by then.
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Read this thread from start to finish. The IOC will not give an Olympic games outside of a September finish and Melbourne's winter weather will not allow for a summer Olympics were as Brisbane's will. Anyway Coates has already said he will only back a bid from SE Qld and the Mayors of the 11 cities that make up SE Qld have voted to put in a bid for 2028 with the option to rebid for 2032.
Melbourne wont see an Olympics until global warming warms up your August and September by 5 degrees and if that happens, they might just become the Indoor Olympic Games rather than Summer Olympics.
Yeah I know that Coates' argument. Frankly I hope he's gone by the time the next round of bidding is up. When you look at the cities that are winning bids this century -- major global cities -- it's clear that Brisbane is no chance.
Paris was always going to get 2024 games as it would be 100 year anniversary if their last games. Los Angeles was eventually going to get another.
Brisbane will never get an Olympics
Brisbane will never get an Olympics
What would Brisbane do for a main stadium?
The 40k gabba is inadequate. The 52k lang park is a rectangle.
The only other option would be to build an oval larger capacity stadium but that would just be a white elephant post olympics.
Isn't Coats up on criminal charges? Not sure it matters what he thinks
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Build one. Not that hard to do. Finding a perfect spot for it as opposed to just a spot for it is another thing.
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For what? If you don't think it matters what he thinks, then you don't know much about how the IOC and AOC works.
The Sydney experience is evidence that the location of the main stadium isnt so much the issue as how it will be utilised post olympics.
Homebush was a controvertial location, but because multiple sporting teams use it and frequently made it a viable option.
I cant see how a new ~80k stadium anywhere in Brisbane would be viable post olympics. There is an inadequte number of sporting teams in Brisbane that would use it and would have huge competition from Sydney and Melbourne for major sporting events that could be held there.
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What was controversial about Homebush? It was the perfect site for a mutiI purpose stadium sports precinct for the Olympics. Controversial was the plan for the 1988 bid plan to build an 80+k stadium in Centennial Park near the SCG. It was an important reason why the Wran government back in 1980 pulled out of making a serious bid for 1988 after flirting with it for a few months.
The most likely site in the suburbs for Brisbane for an 80k stadium is Mt Gravat where the Comm Games were held in 1982 and the Broncos played for about 15 years and the stadium and surrounding precinct is part of the Qld Academy of Sports set up An 80k stadium would have a life of 40 to 50 years. In 2032 Brisbane will have another 500k and SE Qld about 800k more people and by 2070 or 2080 they will have about 2 or 3 million more people than today. So a bit of decent transport infrastructure and a 40 to 50 year plan will have plenty of opportunities for it to work. You are looking at instant gratification.
Melbourne only had 1.5mil when they hosted the 1956 Olympics.
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Another option the Qld government has is to compulsory aquire buildings around the Gabba and put Vulture Street and/or Stanley Street underground to give it room to expand from 40k to 80k. That could be a cheaper and better longterm option than have a stadium at Mt Gravat that needs major transport upgrade to it.
Wasn't he the one who was getting investigated for channeling money out of the AOC into a private company he owned?
Lol Brisbane are a better chance to win the flag this year.
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