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List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - The Final Countdown

What Is Your Preferred Combination At Picks 3 & 4?


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I don’t mind Cumming as an option.

Who knows at this stage, Smillie may never fire. But he has the potential and attributes to be the #1 guy in a midfield. Reid is a good, classy role playing type but he will never be that guy.
Stop underselling Reid. He’s more than a role player. Why can’t Reid be the number 1 in a midfield? Showed more in his first year than any other draftee. I don’t mind our draftees(Smillie etc) being supported but this crap of saying long term Reid will not be a gun is garbage. If we had drafted him Richmond supporters would be proclaiming him as the best,rightly or wrongly.
 

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I keep seeing these comparisons for CDT but the one I see most is Buddy. He's tall, quick, good at ground level and appears to have a good footy brain. Not so good in the air. Not sure he's a ruckman. I'd be reluctant to pass on CDT. He probably has the highest ceiling of anyone in the draft.
Yeah I see him as a key fwd who needs significant improvement marking the ball, who may be able to help in the ruck every now and then
I wouldn’t be surprised if Essendon traded picks 5 & 6 to West Coast and receive from West Coast picks 2 & 13. The trade is maybe weighted in West Coasts favour, but it delivers Essendon pick 2 and CDT while still holding another 2 picks in the first round. Under this scenario, it protects our picks and ensures we go home with Sharp & Cumming.
I can't see wce doing that trade if sharp or robey aren't on the board
 
I still think for WCE this draft is the most important draft they are going to have. If they pick wrong the players in can see it putting them back close to another decade.
If they take Dursma and CDT both players have high reward but a rather high level of risk, im not sold CDT will have enough impact the first couple yrs and Dursma will likely take 2-3 seasons before he has good impact. I can't see how they can be competitive enough under this scenario to keep Harley Reid in 3yrs time and if that's the case I could see Dursma leaving soon after (his contract will be up the same time). For that reason I think WCE have to go Sharp with pick 2 no matter what, that should atleast help in the short term with onfield performance. The more i thing about it I'd seriously consider 5 6 for pick 1 and take Sharp at 2 if I was them. Gives them sharp then atleast 2 of CDT Robey Cumming Grlj Taylor and then there teens pick to help build out other positions. I dont think they have the guts to do it as such this is probably convoluted way of saying i think Sharp and Dursma will probably be off the board. Which will leave CDT Robey as options at 3 4 for us.
 
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I still think for WCE this draft is the most important draft they are going to have. If they pick wrong the players in can see it putting them back close to another decade.
If they take Dursma and CDT both players have high reward but a rather high level of risk, im not sold CDT will have enough impact the first couple yrs and Dursma will likely take 2-3 seasons before he has good impact. I can't see how they can be competitive enough under this scenario to keep Harley Reid in 3yrs time and if that's the case I could see Dursma leaving soon after (his contract will be up the same time). For that reason I think WCE have to go Sharp with pick 2 no matter what, that should atleast help in the short term with onfield performance. The more i thing about it I'd seriously consider 5 6 for pick 1 and take Sharp at 2 if I was them. Gives them sharp then atleast 2 of CDT Robey Cumming Grlj Taylor and then there teens pick to help build out other positions. I dont think they have the guts to do it as such this is probably convoluted way of saying i think Sharp and Dursma will probably be off the board. Which will leave CDT Robey as options at 3 4 for us.



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I’ve said it before but will repeat it.
If they aren’t an elite kick we should not even entertain them. With pick 3 and 4 it’s crucial they can dispose of the ball properly.
Yep, the crackdown on the stupid stand rule demands this, as well as speed and overlap run.
 
Yep Blair butchered it. I would have landed a much better haul
On the draft night thread you pegged FOS, Tauru, Allan, Berry, Shanahan, Alger with our top 6 picks.

Still prefer Lalor over FOS but FOS has been good.

Tauru has the points over Smillie but like XT this year I’d spew if we spent a high pick on a third defender.

Faull over Allan, well Jonty has been very good in his first year. Allan unsighted, but projects as a straight line long kicking half backer with iffy disposal.

Taj over Berry, well I’d take Taj.

Trainors been good but Shanahan looks a very good prospect for the Eagles.

Alger over Armstrong would have been interesting. You’d have ponied up a first rounder for Jasper where Blair got him for a future forth and took Armstrong with that pick.

I’m preferring Blair’s haul to be honest.
 
Stop underselling Reid. He’s more than a role player. Why can’t Reid be the number 1 in a midfield? Showed more in his first year than any other draftee. I don’t mind our draftees(Smillie etc) being supported but this crap of saying long term Reid will not be a gun is garbage. If we had drafted him Richmond supporters would be proclaiming him as the best,rightly or wrongly.
Reid has shown he’ll be a very good player, and using the phrase “role player” probably doesn’t convey what I mean. I see him being the Nigel Lappin to someone’s Voss and Black. No hate, Lappin was a gun, but he wasn’t the #1 man. End of the day, that’s just my opinion and projection on the type of player he’ll be over his career.
 

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Stop underselling Reid. He’s more than a role player. Why can’t Reid be the number 1 in a midfield? Showed more in his first year than any other draftee. I don’t mind our draftees(Smillie etc) being supported but this crap of saying long term Reid will not be a gun is garbage. If we had drafted him Richmond supporters would be proclaiming him as the best,rightly or wrongly.
It's his first year. Is he going to improve each year or will he end up like Rhys Palmer, Stephenson or Lewis Taylor? Interesting that most of the Rising Starts have gone onto to be stars except half forward flankers.
 
We should get another good mid with our first pick, whether it be Robey, Sharpe, Cumming , Grlj.
But I would be disappointed if we don’t take X Taylor at 4 .
Perfect replacement for Vlastuin .
There will be another quality mid we can bring in next year.
 
Murphy Reid is a jet but I think we got our picks right. Lalor number one at this stage, maybe Langford you could make a case for. Smillie to early to tell but I rewatched his full season under 18 highlights last week and the kids can play. I think he would go two or three in this draft. Upside is immense. Hotton is a jet and I'm picking him over Reid. He's the kind of player you go to games to watch. Faul is a very impressive young key forward. Shanahan I think at this point you'd pick before Trainor and Armstrong. Shanahan looks like a number one key forward and to do what he did in a rubbish team this year is very impressive. But on balance I think our combination of players was terrific. Hard not to give our recruiting team an A+ for the 2024 draft at this stage.
 
If WC go Duursma and Sharp leaving us Robey and CDT I think we just take then and move on.
There’s no way CDT gets past pick 2

Either Eagles take him or Bombers trade up to get him
 
On the draft night thread you pegged FOS, Tauru, Allan, Berry, Shanahan, Alger with our top 6 picks.

Still prefer Lalor over FOS but FOS has been good.

Tauru has the points over Smillie but like XT this year I’d spew if we spent a high pick on a third defender.

Faull over Allan, well Jonty has been very good in his first year. Allan unsighted, but projects as a straight line long kicking half backer with iffy disposal.

Taj over Berry, well I’d take Taj.

Trainors been good but Shanahan looks a very good prospect for the Eagles.

Alger over Armstrong would have been interesting. You’d have ponied up a first rounder for Jasper where Blair got him for a future forth and took Armstrong with that pick.

I’m preferring Blair’s haul to be honest.
I swapped out Allen for Reid. What a haul that would have been.
 

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I’ve said it before but will repeat it.
If they aren’t an elite kick we should not even entertain them. With pick 3 and 4 it’s crucial they can dispose of the ball properly.

Who are the elite kicks in the top 10 or so?
 
I’ve said it before but will repeat it.
If they aren’t an elite kick we should not even entertain them. With pick 3 and 4 it’s crucial they can dispose of the ball properly.

So pass then?



Would be great but think a contender like Freo will grab him with late first early second
 
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