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List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - The Final Countdown

What Is Your Preferred Combination At Picks 3 & 4?


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Carlton don’t need to trade for futures for Walker. Walsh will be leaving as a FA and their pick next year + compo pick will suffice. This idea of making them pay to prevent them getting Walker is BS. Yes bid on Dean but it will not affect them getting Walker next year.
Except Walsh won’t leave, as loyal as they come
 

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Anybody concerned that Gibcus’ body is done and we won’t get his best? Balta will be trade bait next year, Tom Brown is too undersized to be an effective interceptor, Grey is unproven, Vlastuin and Broad will be done within 3 years. Trainor will be good but I have concerns on his speed and ball use.

Elite young intercepting defenders over 190cm+ we don’t have. X.Taylor is exactly what we need.
I would expect XT would be played in a similar way to what Trainor was this year.
 
Anybody concerned that Gibcus’ body is done and we won’t get his best? Balta will be trade bait next year, Tom Brown is too undersized to be an effective interceptor, Grey is unproven, Vlastuin and Broad will be done within 3 years. Trainor will be good but I have concerns on his speed and ball use.

Elite intercepting defenders over 190cm+ we don’t have. X.Taylor is exactly what we need.
I would expect XT would be played in a similar way to what Trainor was this year.
I agree with quite a bit of what you said but Tom Brown at 193cm is currently taller than Taylor, he’s just a different style.
 
What evidence do you have to indicate Balta will be trade bait?
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Anybody concerned that Gibcus’ body is done and we won’t get his best? Balta will be trade bait next year, Tom Brown is too undersized to be an effective interceptor, Grey is unproven, Vlastuin and Broad will be done within 3 years. Trainor will be good but I have concerns on his speed and ball use.

Elite young intercepting defenders over 190cm+ we don’t have. X.Taylor is exactly what we need.
I would expect XT would be played in a similar way to what Trainor was this year.
based on the recent training video of Gibcus I reckon he is looking pretty good tbh.
 

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what kind of logic is that? we picked Dylan Grimes in the pre-season draft, so we should never pick a KPD in the top ten?
if there was a redraft of the 2009 draft crop with the benefit of hindsight grimes would've been worthy of a top 5 selection . If Richmond believes he is best available then take him
1.Martin
2. Fyfe
3. Gawn
4. Gunston
5. Grimes
 
Anybody concerned that Gibcus’ body is done and we won’t get his best? Balta will be trade bait next year, Tom Brown is too undersized to be an effective interceptor, Grey is unproven, Vlastuin and Broad will be done within 3 years. Trainor will be good but I have concerns on his speed and ball use.

Elite young intercepting defenders over 190cm+ we don’t have. X.Taylor is exactly what we need.
I would expect XT would be played in a similar way to what Trainor was this year.

You’re pretty quick to basically write off our entire backline.
Gibcus if remains injury free will be our best defender, no doubt. Balta and Gibcus are our 2 pillars and Balta isn’t going anywhere. He just needs to stay down back and regain confidence.
Trainor will be very very good. It’s easy to forget what he did in his first year before he was moved out of position to the wing.
He needs a few pre seasons for sure but I have no doubt he is our long term grimes replacement and also rebounds and runs up the ground. Seems to be very competitive.
Tom brown still very young but has shown what he can do and after more experience he can slot in to the vlastuin role quite nicely.
Agree with gray, and broad vlastuin not being around forever. However this is why we also have banks, who has really stepped up.

Whilst Taylor would be a handy player to fill a role in a few years, you don’t just select a handy player to fill a role at pick 3 or 4 as a prized selection. You can trade or find players later in drafts for a back pocket player and focus on development. Players selected in the top 5 need to have standout elite traits. Or at least some X factor. I would be selecting CDT, Robey, Sharp, Cumming (arguably Grlj) all ahead of him.

I still think X Taylor will be a good player but looking back on the draft, my gut feel says he was deserving of a pick between 12-20 type player
 
The Age mock having us take Robey has made my day

This bloke is a rolls royce .

Thinking about him swapping onball and fwd with Lalor for richmond, like he did with Ollie Greeves for Eastern is a dream scenario

Give them a few pre seasons and they will absolutely monster teams

Its like having 2, three quarter dusties ( 2 x .75 = 1.5)

fingers crossed it all works out, McGowan gets good mail, all we need is for Twomey to confirm it !
We gotta stop using this bolded expression lol. A Rolls Royce is typically overtly large, slow and gratuitous.

I know it's typically meant to mean a smooth mover/classy. I've watched limited vision on him but I wouldn't use those words to describe him.
 

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We gotta stop using this bolded expression lol. A Rolls Royce is typically overtly large, slow and gratuitous.

I know it's typically meant to mean a smooth mover/classy. I've watched limited vision on him but I wouldn't use those words to describe him.
That sounds like Sharp, large, slow and gratuitous by getting the ball constantly.
 
Anybody concerned that Gibcus’ body is done and we won’t get his best? Balta will be trade bait next year, Tom Brown is too undersized to be an effective interceptor, Grey is unproven, Vlastuin and Broad will be done within 3 years. Trainor will be good but I have concerns on his speed and ball use.

Elite young intercepting defenders over 190cm+ we don’t have. X.Taylor is exactly what we need.
I would expect XT would be played in a similar way to what Trainor was this year.
If we're lacking defense because Balta will be tradebait...
Then balta wont be tradebait
 
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