List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - The Final Countdown

[Coach_Required]

Do Essendon trade 5 & 6 for 2 and 13?

Does pick 13 drop to 17?

 

[THE THIN MAN]

What do people think of
Pick 3 & f2 for
Pick 5 & f1?

 

[Ballin]

So Depressendon send pick 5 and F1 for our pick 3 and f2 & f4 ? Yes no?

PICK 4, FF2 and FF3 for Pick 6 and F1

 

[TJTIGER]

Leon Kickett
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Swan Districts
Community Club: South Bunbury
Date of Birth: 07/11/2006
Height: 173cm

An exciting small forward, Kickett took significant strides forward this year, playing 16 Colts games for Swan Districts, booting 16 goals and averaging 14.8 disposals before debuting at WAFL senior level late in the year, kicking three goals in two matches. Kickett has the traits of successful small forwards, with his speed and elusiveness features of his game along with his innate goal sense

Ideas on his draft ranking?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

 

[tigs2010]

Leon Kickett
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Swan Districts
Community Club: South Bunbury
Date of Birth: 07/11/2006
Height: 173cm

An exciting small forward, Kickett took significant strides forward this year, playing 16 Colts games for Swan Districts, booting 16 goals and averaging 14.8 disposals before debuting at WAFL senior level late in the year, kicking three goals in two matches. Kickett has the traits of successful small forwards, with his speed and elusiveness features of his game along with his innate goal sense

I mentioned him in the trade thread. We've been linked. Assumed as a rookie pick when we had no other picks as haven't seen him in mocks but he was national combine so obviously rated. Went 2.95 seconds & 74cm in standing vertical.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Ideas on his draft ranking?

37

 

[tigs2010]

37

Should be able to grab him once 38 comes into 34

 

[TJTIGER]

37

Well in those wise words of Ace Ventura....

Reeeeeeaaaaaalllly?!!!

 

[THE THIN MAN]

Ideas on his draft ranking?

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Richmond: 3, 4, 38, 81, 99

 

[THE THIN MAN]

I mentioned him in the trade thread. We've been linked. Assumed as a rookie pick when we had no other picks as haven't seen him in mocks but he was national combine so obviously rated. Went 2.95 seconds & 74cm in standing vertical.

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Richmond: 3, 4, 38, 81, 99

 

[tiger_tough]

Don't think anyone is following your argument

Nah I get it.

 

[tiger_tough]

Think id prefer to use 38 on a smokey and risk not having the points to match Kellaway. Fair chance no one bids on him.

 

[_RT_]

Based on history it's not that ridiculous....keeping in mind it would be 3 & F2 for 5&6.

But let's look at just 3 v 5/6:

Mastein v Grant & Myers (3 wins)
S Hill v Hurley & Yarran (close call)
Dusty v Cunnington & Rohan (3 wins)
Day v Polec & Conca (5/6 wins)
Tyson v Buntine & Wingard (5/6 wins)
Plowman v Stringer & Macrae (5/6 wins)
Billings v Koladjashnji & Scharanberg (3 wins)....a could've been Bont at 3....
A Brayshaw v DeGoey & Marchbank (3 wins)
C Mills v Parish & Francis (close call)
McLuggage v Setterfield & SPS (3 wins)
Dow v Cerra & Stephenson (5/6 wins)
Rankine v Rozee & B King (5/6 wins)
Jackson v Stephens & McAsey (3 wins)
Phillips v Campbell & Grainger Barrass (5/6 wins)
Callaghan v Andrew & Rachelle (close call)
Sheezel v Tsatas & Humphrey (close call)
Walter v Watson & Sanders (early days but 5/6 wins)

So not even taking into account the F2 selection, from 17 x seasons with some data it's :

Pick-3: 6
Pick 5-6: 7
A tie: 4

So you could easily argue the 4 x 'close calls' go to pick-3 as that pick has the F2 attached.

Point is....if you are adamant there is a clear top-3 or top-4, trading 5-6 for pick-3 and F2 isn't as silly as it seems at all.

A very simplistic way of looking at it by just naming the players taken at the picks and comparing them.

To be truly accurate, you'd need to know what players the clubs at pick 3 and 5 & 6 would take not just assume that they'd take the same players as it would very much depend on list needs. Then you need to take into account the development of the players at their new club as opposed to how they performed at their original club.

 

[Rich01]

What do people think of
Pick 3 & f2 for
Pick 5 & f1?

This is a joke right?

There is no world in which Essendon do this.

Seriously deluded stuff.

 

[Rich01]

A very simplistic way of looking at it by just naming the players taken at the picks and comparing them.

To be truly accurate, you'd need to know what players the clubs at pick 3 and 5 & 6 would take not just assume that they'd take the same players as it would very much depend on list needs. Then you need to take into account the development of the players at their new club as opposed to how they performed at their original club.

A better way of looking at it would be if the shoe was on the other foot and we had 5 and 6 and Ess had 3 and 4.

Would you upgrade two spots from 5 to 3 and grab the Bombers F2 but also give away our F1?

They’d be a riot at Punt Road if that occurred.

 

[beema limapep]

What do people think of
Pick 3 & f2 for
Pick 5 & f1?

 

[beema limapep]

Should be able to grab him once 38 comes into 34

 

[partycorolla]

Ruck contents are irrelevant unless the oppo ruck is grabbing the ball out of the ruck and taking possession or tapping to advantage like a beast. Most are break even or nil all draw.

Then just put Smilie in the ruck or Sims.

This is a bit of a simple take...

Drafting a high end ruckman rarely results in team success. Only Luke Jackson has had team success recently and that was as a second ruck. Or David Hale but that was for a team who didn't draft him.

You don't spend high draft picks on rucks if you want the ultimate success - you just trade in someone who competes well in the ruck (and on the ground) and who can stand a kick behind the play at times and help out.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Well in those wise words of Ace Ventura....

Reeeeeeaaaaaalllly?!!!

Who's Ace Ventura?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

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Nits?

 

[KrispyKreme]

“Mad Bombers Fan”

Mate send Essendon pick 3 for 5 and f1

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

This is a joke right?

There is no world in which Essendon do this.

Seriously deluded stuff.

Well if they want pick 3 and Blair has said it has to be a deal in our favor and our preference is next years draft.
What combo do you see that would have us tempted?

 

[ShereKhan]

A better way of looking at it would be if the shoe was on the other foot and we had 5 and 6 and Ess had 3 and 4.

Would you upgrade two spots from 5 to 3 and grab the Bombers F2 but also give away our F1?

They’d be a riot at Punt Road if that occurred.

Yes, on the surface it’s a poor deal. History tells you it isn’t. Of course there’s nuances, but on average pick-3 on its own has been on par with 5-6 combined. If there’s a ‘clear’ top-4 then that sort of deal makes even more sense.

Let’s put it this way … imagine we did that deal and Essendon got Bontempelli or Dusty by getting into the top-4 …. then there’d be riots in 5-years time.

 

[Karp3_dm]

Who's Ace Ventura?