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What Is Your Preferred Combination At Picks 3 & 4?


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A guy that won a B & F in a stacked GF team at age 21? Would hate one of them. 🤣🤣

Even better if we can find one that uses the footy better.
Cripps is TT on steroids and got 45 Brownlow votes … in a year they missed finals. If those slow clearance contested beasts are your best player I’m not sure you’re going places in modern footy.

If … if …. we see Sharp as a clearance player without many ā€˜tricks’ don’t spend a top-4 pick on him. Doesn’t mean he won’t be a very good player - but we can trade for a ā€˜Sharp’ or develop one from later in the draft.

I’d rather ā€˜swing for the fences’ with Robey, CDT, Grjl or X Taylor…
 
Cripps is TT on steroids and got 45 Brownlow votes … in a year they missed finals. If those slow clearance contested beasts are your best player I’m not sure you’re going places in modern footy.

If … if …. we see Sharp as a clearance player without many ā€˜tricks’ don’t spend a top-4 pick on him. Doesn’t mean he won’t be a very good player - but we can trade for a ā€˜Sharp’ or develop one from later in the draft.

I’d rather ā€˜swing for the fences’ with Robey, CDT, Grjl or X Taylor…
I'm all aboard Robey as a must. Id tuned out of Sharp, seems a perfect fit for WC, and not so much us, but geez hes become very underrated.

He elevated his game at Champs and was doing all the things he was being criticised for. No outside game, starting linking up in transition, doesn't hit scoreboard, no problem goes forward and kicks goals. Seemed pretty clear at that stage he shouldn't be there at our pick.

If Sharp was our best mid we would be in trouble. If hes our 3rd to 5th we are flying.

Would be very disappointed to miss on Grlj though, hes such an elite fit for our side. Having gone back and watched a fair bit of Sharp today Id take him over Taylor.

We would need to find another role for McAuliffe though which not sure where else he can play.
 
I'm all aboard Robey as a must. Id tuned out of Sharp, seems a perfect fit for WC, and not so much us, but geez hes become very underrated.

He elevated his game at Champs and was doing all the things he was being criticised for. No outside game, starting linking up in transition, doesn't hit scoreboard, no problem goes forward and kicks goals. Seemed pretty clear at that stage he shouldn't be there at our pick.

If Sharp was our best mid we would be in trouble. If hes our 3rd to 5th we are flying.

Would be very disappointed to miss on Grlj though, hes such an elite fit for our side. Having gone back and watched a fair bit of Sharp today Id take him over Taylor.

We would need to find another role for McAuliffe though which not sure where else he can play.
Yerp.

Duursma
Robey
Grlj
Cumming
CDT
Sharp
Taylor

In that order (for us)

For West Coast it's more like...

Duursma
Sharp
CDT
Robey
Cumming
Taylor
Grlj
 
He may well be but all recruiters draft also for projection. If they think he will be the best down the track you go for it, just like they did with Lalor. Nobody expected Lalor to impact like he did. Smith was also the best footballer for the year, was touted higher than Sharp but slipped to 6. Twomey has him at 9.
you make too many assumptions and rely on possible projection from possible false assumptions especially regarding role.

it is easy to see talent and supposed limitations, it is harder to forecast evolving roles and dynamic mixes within groups.

I thinks some players deserve some slack in regards to what some think they can and cannot do especially when they are doing other things well

just because a player is good at A does not mean they cannot be somewhat effective, especially in a team construct with B and even C
 
I'm all aboard Robey as a must. Id tuned out of Sharp, seems a perfect fit for WC, and not so much us, but geez hes become very underrated.

He elevated his game at Champs and was doing all the things he was being criticised for. No outside game, starting linking up in transition, doesn't hit scoreboard, no problem goes forward and kicks goals. Seemed pretty clear at that stage he shouldn't be there at our pick.

If Sharp was our best mid we would be in trouble. If hes our 3rd to 5th we are flying.

Would be very disappointed to miss on Grlj though, hes such an elite fit for our side. Having gone back and watched a fair bit of Sharp today Id take him over Taylor.

We would need to find another role for McAuliffe though which not sure where else he can play.
McAuliffe needs to get out of the recovery ward and on to the field.
 
For the Grlj lovers





https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dr...n/news-story/88b62c762ef5d80f12e465a81f9ef474

Oakleigh Chargers star Sam Grlj has Blues blood running through his veins.

ā€œDad supported Carlton and his dad supported them, so it just got passed down,ā€ Grlj tells foxfooty.com.au.

ā€œI remember coming here (the MCG) and watching Sam Docherty’s kick through the middle and his kick to Blake Acres for that (final in 2023). That was pretty special.ā€

Carlton holds Picks 9 and 11, but those selections will change depending on when a Harry Dean father-son bid comes. Plus Grlj has lots of top-10 interest, starting at Richmond (Picks 3 and 4).

Like most footy-mad families, the parents of this year’s top draft prospects have had a significant influence on which AFL team they support.


If he has Blues blood running through his veins then the kid needs all the help he can to rid him of that nasty virus.
 

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If it is as reliable in previous years then it should be a doozy.

I remember when Collingwood would win all the ESPN Phantom drafts.
That guy doesn't write for ESPN anymore. I wonder why? 🄓
 
We're usually on a similar page, Bob. And there's no doubt he's the best-performed kid in the draft. But for me he doesn't project as the best senior player. Plus we have Lalor, Smillie and McAuliffe, so he's not a need either.

I’m not sure how he’s the same as those you mentioned? Lalor isn’t a full time mid. Smilie is a second phase mid. McAuliffe is a B grader and one I’m not sure why is held in prestige as much as he is. Difference maker? Not yet…

Too many have fallen into the trap of saying he’s at his peak. He has no growth. Comparisons to Jack Graham ffs.

I’m not sure how we can watch him
Against men and see his performances and then have these questions. If he played Coates league he would average 40 touches.

He’s proven he can do other roles, play forward, play outside and link up, pace is no issue, athleticism no issue, strength absolutely no issue. Footy smarts, beyond elite.

Why is Duursma such a universal pick one? If you watch their full games and not just highlights, in a normal world, I know who I’m picking at one.
 
Looks like a current Richmond players brother is about to recruited to Richmond reserves. Then hopefully within a year onto the senior list
Oh yeah šŸ˜Ž

There is no loss for us to get Ollie onto our VFL list. Absolutely none. He’s a decent player at that level, he connects his bro long term to our club, who’s an elite talent and solidifies our VFL team.

But I sure do hope there are no guarantees he gets a list spot at AFL level.
 
Think the differing mentalities about draftees between posters comes down to a difference in philosophy. High skill floor vs High skill ceiling.

I rate Sharp as the 6th best non-academy player in the draft. He absolutely has his strengths, and probably has one of the highest skill floors in the draft class but I worry about his skill ceiling. He will be a solid 200 game player.

I'm wanting us to go big with our picks this year. High upside. I rate Robey at #2 and Grlj at #3 for that purpose. Robey could become similar to Bont, and Grlj could become similar to Butters.


Bont and Butters? You've cherry picked 2 top of the tree elite players out of the last dozen drafts. I personally think this draft is gonna be looked back on as a lousy year. Odds are they're gonna be more similar to Dean Polo and Cale Morton than Bont and Butters. Grlj is a hbf he shouldn't be any higher than the pick 12-15 range imo. Robey could be anything and in such a lousy compromised draft probably a wise pick. If the club is in love with a player still available at our 1st pick then we need to back them in (after bidding on 3-4 academy and Dean of course). Should definitely be fielding offers for pick 4 already and pitting desperate clubs against each other. Wouldn't entertain 2027 picks though. Knowing our luck the 1st rounder will blow out to pick 30.
 
I'm all aboard Robey as a must. Id tuned out of Sharp, seems a perfect fit for WC, and not so much us, but geez hes become very underrated.

He elevated his game at Champs and was doing all the things he was being criticised for. No outside game, starting linking up in transition, doesn't hit scoreboard, no problem goes forward and kicks goals. Seemed pretty clear at that stage he shouldn't be there at our pick.

If Sharp was our best mid we would be in trouble. If hes our 3rd to 5th we are flying.

Would be very disappointed to miss on Grlj though, hes such an elite fit for our side. Having gone back and watched a fair bit of Sharp today Id take him over Taylor.

We would need to find another role for McAuliffe though which not sure where else he can play.
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McAuliffe looks promising however he's not an established player and smilie is yet to play a game. Best available at 3-4 it should be as im sure it will.
Remind me how many games Sharp has played.

I thought I was pretty clear in my opinion he wouldn't be best available at our picks.

This is probably the case, but he would also make the other players around him better.
Would he? Why?

Looking forward to him proving you and others so wrong
Do you think CDT will be as good as Grundy? That's a better comparison than Jackson. Except Grundy's taller than CDT. Would you pay pick 3 for Grundy?

I'm all aboard Robey as a must. Id tuned out of Sharp, seems a perfect fit for WC, and not so much us, but geez hes become very underrated.

He elevated his game at Champs and was doing all the things he was being criticised for. No outside game, starting linking up in transition, doesn't hit scoreboard, no problem goes forward and kicks goals. Seemed pretty clear at that stage he shouldn't be there at our pick.

If Sharp was our best mid we would be in trouble. If hes our 3rd to 5th we are flying.

Would be very disappointed to miss on Grlj though, hes such an elite fit for our side. Having gone back and watched a fair bit of Sharp today Id take him over Taylor.

We would need to find another role for McAuliffe though which not sure where else he can play.
Forget McAuliffe for a second. Do you think you could play Lalor, Smillie and Sharp in the same midfield?

ESPN Mock Draft drops tomorrow
I'd rather read yours.

I’m not sure how he’s the same as those you mentioned? Lalor isn’t a full time mid. Smilie is a second phase mid. McAuliffe is a B grader and one I’m not sure why is held in prestige as much as he is. Difference maker? Not yet…
Lalor isn’t a full time mid, yet. Disagree on Smillie, he's a clearance mid.

Sharp is also a B-grader, B+ at best.

Too many have fallen into the trap of saying he’s at his peak. He has no growth. Comparisons to Jack Graham ffs.

I’m not sure how we can watch him
Against men and see his performances and then have these questions. If he played Coates league he would average 40 touches.
His performances against men were moderate. He averaged 31 in the SANFL 19s, he wouldn't average 40 in the stronger Coates league.

He’s proven he can do other roles, play forward, play outside and link up, pace is no issue, athleticism no issue, strength absolutely no issue. Footy smarts, beyond elite.
Disagree with at least half of that

Why is Duursma such a universal pick one? If you watch their full games and not just highlights, in a normal world, I know who I’m picking at one.
Duursma has elite traits. He put in a BOG for Casey in the VFL while Sharp was getting 12 touches in the SANFL.
 
Remind me how many games Sharp has played.

I thought I was pretty clear in my opinion he wouldn't be best available at our picks.


Would he? Why?


Do you think CDT will be as good as Grundy? That's a better comparison than Jackson. Except Grundy's taller than CDT. Would you pay pick 3 for Grundy?


Forget McAuliffe for a second. Do you think you could play Lalor, Smillie and Sharp in the same midfield?


I'd rather read yours.


Lalor isn’t a full time mid, yet. Disagree on Smillie, he's a clearance mid.

Sharp is also a B-grader, B+ at best.


His performances against men were moderate. He averaged 31 in the SANFL 19s, he wouldn't average 40 in the stronger Coates league.


Disagree with all of that


Duursma has elite traits. He put in a BOG for Casey in the VFL while Sharp was getting 12 touches in the SANFL.
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Remind me how many games Sharp has played.

I thought I was pretty clear in my opinion he wouldn't be best available at our picks.


Would he? Why?


Do you think CDT will be as good as Grundy? That's a better comparison than Jackson. Except Grundy's taller than CDT. Would you pay pick 3 for Grundy?


Forget McAuliffe for a second. Do you think you could play Lalor, Smillie and Sharp in the same midfield?


I'd rather read yours.


Lalor isn’t a full time mid, yet. Disagree on Smillie, he's a clearance mid.

Sharp is also a B-grader, B+ at best.


His performances against men were moderate. He averaged 31 in the SANFL 19s, he wouldn't average 40 in the stronger Coates league.


Disagree with at least half of that


Duursma has elite traits. He put in a BOG for Casey in the VFL while Sharp was getting 12 touches in the SANFL.
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Let’s not forget Taranto was pick-2. And he’s a very good player and has been superb for us. Is Sharp another TT? 200+ games and ultra reliable … but not sure it’s what you want to spend pick-2 on ?
Sharp will be a A grade 250 game player i have no doubt but cant say he will be a A+ elite type player as thats what nobody would know.

I would be more than happy to get a Libba level player at this selection
 
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