List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft

[tigs2010]

I think he is referring to their last 18s season before being drafted. Not what they have dished up since then.

Cal sounds like Norf fans last year tbh that there was no elite talent.

1 game into the real stuff and we looked like we had a generational talent who is being compared to Reid, JHF & Dusty.

We will get 2 good prospects, just need to develop them well which we seem to be with the '24 crop.

noobermensch is Sharp anything like Wardlaw? If so, i'd be keen on him with one of our 1st picks.

Id like Sharp and Lindsay/Dersma with our 2 picks.

Nowhere near Wardlaw's athleticism. Think more of a Rowell/Oliver type in that sense.

 

[sanaya]

He's not basing it off now clearly. FOS was a far better prospect than everyone currently in this draft class.

i understand that, now, i guess i shouldn't have called him 10 touch FOS, that was an over exaggeration on my part, he actually averaged 11 touches last year in the nationals, my bad ! (yes, injured thumb, i get it)


but seriously, gun to my head who has the better afl career out of u17 sharp vs u17&18 FOS, i'm taking sharp

and sharp at this stage isn't even gonna be #1 this year, like there's cdt, willem duursma, greeves, etc.

 

[Calcium Man]

i understand that, now, i guess i shouldn't have called him 10 touch FOS, that was an over exaggeration on my part, he actually averaged 11 touches last year in the nationals, my bad ! (yes, injured thumb, i get it)


but seriously, gun to my head who has the better afl career out of u17 sharp vs u17&18 FOS, i'm taking sharp

and sharp at this stage isn't even gonna be #1 this year, like there's cdt, willem duursma, greeves, etc.

Smillie was a better prospect than anyone in this class at round 6/7 of CTL last year vs first 7 rounds this year and he went 7.

I’d take 1-7 2024, XLindsay and MReid ahead of anyone in this class based on the April/may 2024 and April/May 2025. The decision making and ball use isn’t a patch on last years, though I think Greeves, CDT and Duursma have better athletic profiles then anyone bar Hotton, Tauru and probably FOS last year.

Hopefully Greeves learns to kick or an Oliver/Bont comes from the clouds.

 

[noobermensch]

noobermensch is Sharp anything like Wardlaw? If so, i'd be keen on him with one of our 1st picks.

Id like Sharp and Lindsay/Dersma with our 2 picks.

Like him in that he's an inside midfielder. Wadlaw is an an incredible athlete with ballistic power, Sharp is not that. Sharp is more about perpetual movement and stoppage craft, and is quite a bit taller than Wardlaw.

 

[Downtown06]

Richo?

You know, I forget he was a father / son LOL.

That's the only one

 

[sanaya]

Smillie was a better prospect than anyone in this class at round 6/7 of CTL last year vs first 7 rounds this year and he went 7.

I’d take 1-7 2024, XLindsay and MReid ahead of anyone in this class based on the April/may 2024 and April/May 2025. The decision making and ball use isn’t a patch on last years, though I think Greeves, CDT and Duursma have better athletic profiles then anyone bar Hotton, Tauru and probably FOS last year.

Hopefully Greeves learns to kick or an Oliver/Bont comes from the clouds.

i'm not saying twomey is completely wrong when he says this year's draft doesn't have the "star power" (depends on what/who he means) of the prior year's, but that isn't where he left it and he specifically mentioned names and I just completely disagree with FOS being pick 1 of this year's draft class. at this stage of last year had he even played a game? I can't remember, so if we're going u17 for u17, again, I feel like even sharp & duursma disproves what twomey said in regards to at least FOS

and as good as nick watson was, and could be, I just don't see any club picking a 170cm small forward as their #1 pick unless he wasn't playing as a small fwd and doing like 35+2 a game at the nationals with no player close to his peformances

 

[sanaya]

You know, I forget he was a father / son LOL.

That's the only one

pretty sure joel bowden might be the only other success story

 

[Downtown06]

pretty sure joel bowden might be the only other success story

Another one!!!

Shit you got good memory, i keep forgetting the F/S back in the 90s cause it wasn't as big back then as it is now.

You could use pick 55 back then, now if they are that good, its a 1st rd pick.

 

[sregit]

How so? Feels like we have most of the pieces already.

Richmond has certainly done the right thing by releasing players to get early draft picks and has started the rebuild in a good shape. However, even with the further addition of 2 top 5 picks this yearnwe are still a long way off completing this rebuild.

1. The likelihood is that a number of these kids (small I hope) aren’t good enough.

2. Our older players will be past their use by date by the time our kids can get 50+ games and will need replacing. Nank, Vlas, Broady, Lynch etc.

3. Our draftees from 2019 - 2023 are an ordinary lot and we have not found a real star footballer from that group.

4. Tasmania entering the comp will lesson the number of high quality draft options moving forward.

5. At this point in time we are not a destination club for quality out of contract or FA.

 

[Calcium Man]

i'm not saying twomey is completely wrong when he says this year's draft doesn't have the "star power" (depends on what/who he means) of the prior year's, but that isn't where he left it and he specifically mentioned names and I just completely disagree with FOS being pick 1 of this year's draft class. at this stage of last year had he even played a game? I can't remember, so if we're going u17 for u17, again, I feel like even sharp & duursma disproves what twomey said in regards to at least FOS

and as good as nick watson was, and could be, I just don't see any club picking a 170cm small forward as their #1 pick unless he wasn't playing as a small fwd and doing like 35+2 a game at the nationals with no player close to his peformances

Agree on Watson but think you’re ignoring FOS u/17 season.

I get that people want to shit on him for the possession count (and probably the arguments between him and Jagga for 1 last year) but he was the consensus no.1 pick coming into the u/18 season for a reason. He had two 20 possession games at champs out of 3, was bog or close to in the futures game and averaged 23 in 8 CTL underage games.

Duursma for the record averaged 16 in 15 bottom age CTL games

 

[wegetpumped]

Agree on Watson but think you’re ignoring FOS u/17 season.

I get that people want to shit on him for the possession count (and probably the arguments between him and Jagga for 1 last year) but he was the consensus no.1 pick coming into the u/18 season for a reason. He had two 20 possession games at champs out of 3, was bog or close to in the futures game and averaged 23 in 8 CTL underage games.

Hes going to be a gun there just teaching him the defensive game. Games I have seen him in shows class.

 

[Morro]

noobermensch is Sharp anything like Wardlaw? If so, i'd be keen on him with one of our 1st picks.

Id like Sharp and Lindsay/Dersma with our 2 picks.

Doesnt have explosive Wardlaw's pace

 

[lalorGOAT]

Richmond has certainly done the right thing by releasing players to get early draft picks and has started the rebuild in a good shape. However, even with the further addition of 2 top 5 picks this yearnwe are still a long way off completing this rebuild.

1. The likelihood is that a number of these kids (small I hope) aren’t good enough.

2. Our older players will be past their use by date by the time our kids can get 50+ games and will need replacing. Nank, Vlas, Broady, Lynch etc.

3. Our draftees from 2019 - 2023 are an ordinary lot and we have not found a real star footballer from that group.

4. Tasmania entering the comp will lesson the number of high quality draft options moving forward.

5. At this point in time we are not a destination club for quality out of contract or FA.

On the other hand, we only had 3 top ten picks that we drafted during our dynasty. The talent we will have from last years and this years draft willbe enough. From next year onwards, we should be hitting the trade table aggressively.

 

[tigs2010]

Doesnt have explosive Wardlaw's pace

**** I know my comment last night was ****ing harsh ey but no need to put me on ignore.

Unless you're just blatantly ripping off my posts. campaigner.

 

[Richmond Flats]

Wouldn't use a top five pick on a guy like Sharp. A bit vanilla with limited athleticism. Gives Matt Crouch

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[sanaya]

Agree on Watson but think you’re ignoring FOS u/17 season.

I get that people want to shit on him for the possession count (and probably the arguments between him and Jagga for 1 last year) but he was the consensus no.1 pick coming into the u/18 season for a reason. He had two 20 possession games at champs out of 3, was bog or close to in the futures game and averaged 23 in 8 CTL underage games.

not ignoring it i'm just also acknowledging sharp&duursma's u17 seasons

duursma averaged 29.5 touches & 1.7 goals over 15 last year in the ctl which is much better than the 22 and 0.1 that FOS had (not 23 disposals, don't try and sneak your boy touches )(edit: stats page I looked at for duurs was wrong so ignore rest of post, still reckon sharp's u17 was better, should've just kept using that example), and duursma is backing it up again this year in april/may. he looks a really good player, even if his kicking isn't perfect, I feel like I'd be comfortable having him ahead of 20 touch u17 Finn who hasn't played u18 yet at this point of the year, and if he has, it's 5 disposals average less at each level

Scratch that, duursmas numbers for u18s might be wrong? 2 diff stats in 2 diff places

rookieme's profile has him 29 but then on his profile has him only 16

but still, 16 touches and a goal off the wing, to then averaging 27 this year, is showing more improvement than FOS showed. now did FOS look good when he was getting those 11 touches this year? you bet, so I'll hand you that one

 

[Morro]

**** I know my comment last night was ****ing harsh ey but no need to put me on ignore.

Unless you're just blatantly ripping off my posts. campaigner.

campaigner you need to relax, where has this come outburst come from? You and your cousin OBeanbag upset at me again?

 

[Calcium Man]

not ignoring it i'm just also acknowledging sharp&duursma's u17 seasons

duursma averaged 29.5 touches & 1.7 goals over 15 last year in the ctl which is much better than the 22 and 0.1 that FOS had (not 23 disposals, don't try and sneak your boy touches ), and duursma is backing it up again this year in april/may. he looks a really good player, even if his kicking isn't perfect, I feel like I'd be comfortable having him ahead of 20 touch u17 Finn who hasn't played u18 yet at this point of the year, and if he has, it's 5 disposals average less at each level

Scratch that, duursmas numbers for u18s might be wrong? 2 diff stats in 2 diff places

Think you’re the one fudging stats mate. Duursma was 16 touches in 2024




And FOS at 23.3 in 2023 in 8 games

 

[sanaya]

Think you’re the one fudging stats mate. Duursma was 16 touches in 2025

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And FOS at 23.3 in 2023 in 8 games

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yeah I saw that, it's rookieme that's fudging it, they somehow have 9+5=29

but anyway, willem's improvement this year is just an even bigger bonus going from 16 to 28, because that's what you're looking for in draftees, whereas fos went backwards, or was unsighted and unproven in u18 at this point so I don't know how you'd have him above duursma when twomey made this statement


but anyway, we already agree that twomey was talking out of his ass with watson, I just don't think that FOS is all that special

still reckon u17 + april/may u18 sharp will have a better career than u17 FOS showed

 

[tigs2010]

Grim

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Grim

great googly moogly...

we could still nab a van rooyen on the plus side

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Richmond has certainly done the right thing by releasing players to get early draft picks and has started the rebuild in a good shape. However, even with the further addition of 2 top 5 picks this yearnwe are still a long way off completing this rebuild.

1. The likelihood is that a number of these kids (small I hope) aren’t good enough.

2. Our older players will be past their use by date by the time our kids can get 50+ games and will need replacing. Nank, Vlas, Broady, Lynch etc.

3. Our draftees from 2019 - 2023 are an ordinary lot and we have not found a real star footballer from that group.

4. Tasmania entering the comp will lesson the number of high quality draft options moving forward.

5. At this point in time we are not a destination club for quality out of contract or FA.

theyre being forced to trade out a lot of their top picks for seasoned players. we could potentially cast off a short/miller type and get a pretty tasty return.

 

[tigs2010]

great googly moogly...

we could still nab a van rooyen on the plus side

What's better than 1 van rooyen 2 0 van rooyens lol

 

[Calcium Man]

yeah I saw that, it's rookieme that's fudging it, they somehow have 9+5=29

but anyway, willem's improvement this year is just an even bigger bonus going from 16 to 28, because that's what you're looking for in draftees, whereas fos went backwards, or was unsighted and unproven in u18 at this point so I don't know how you'd have him above duursma when twomey made this statement


but anyway, we already agree that twomey was talking out of his ass with watson, I just don't think that FOS is all that special

still reckon u17 + april/may u18 sharp will have a better career than u17 FOS showed

Elijah Tsatas went from 11 touches to 34… I wouldn’t touch him with 10’ft pole.

I’ve said the ball use and decision making is well below last years top 7, XLindsay and MReid.

Duursma is a great grab, really athletic but his decision making and ball use is highly inconsistent, with the stand rule I want players who use the ball well. I agree that Duursma is probably the best prospect this year or Greeves. But my god do they miss a shit tonne of easy kicks and handballs. Sharp is much better than both but doesn’t have their ceiling.

You can knock Twomeys comment all you want, but he’s just parroting what he is hearing from recruiters and the fact is they’re the ones saying it’s not as good a top end, and they’re the ones still picking FOS top 3 in a better draft class.

Edit: Will add, I posted about two weeks ago I’d take 1-7, Lindsay and Reid before anyone in this draft. I’ve been down on this classes decision making since the futures game compared to what I saw last year.

 

[Daka]

In fairness, we did get a father-son who would sit quite comfortably in the top 10 of father-sons ever drafted. It was just 30 years ago

Yeah, but he was a unicorn.