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Both Serong and HH wont be at Hawthorn next year. A number of clubs sniffing around both
And we use to have worse playing there.One is an AA defender, one was playing country footy a few years back and the other is a bog average SANFL mid asked to chase around defenders of course they are bottom tier.
I want my small forwards to be like Robbie Gray who is a top line midfielder as well.
I know what you're saying Robbie Gray s don't come along very often but the point I'm making is that they need to do more than one thing. Having guys like Cheese running around chasing guys and not contributing to the scoreboard just can't go on.And we use to have worse playing there.
I liked how this read in your post. I had a bit of a laugh. We all do, mate.
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Also, our second and third this year might be swapped into next year to help any points that we may need to find or to trade up if we can't get Dougie as an academy pick.Also important to remember that Draftees still get taken on a 2 year deal, whilst a DFA, SSP or rookie can be taken on a single year. So more flexibility with Wehr over pick 50. Or upgrade a rookie and give a summer to a potential player like Lai to show what he can do.
I dont like goal sneak forwards either particularly when they are very short. I prefer the Lohman types who present & are aggressive.I've got a real issue with goal sneak forwards. I don't like them because they are generally one trick ponies. I want my small forwards to be like Robbie Gray who is a top line midfielder as well. Or Brett Ebert who was a lead up small forward as well as a crumbing forward.
Rioli was very good at what he did well but he had plenty of limitations as well. I don't think he'll be as difficult to replace as you think. But he will be if we look for exactly the same type of player.
Could we turn Drew into a lockdown defender?Agree its our number one priority particularly with the move of Bergman to midfield. Then a quick, hard working defensive midfielder as Drew isn't going to get any better now & Mead will never be good enuf. I'm really hoping Logan Evans can recapture that early defensive form he had but it is hope.
Yeh I've suggested that too after his poor year in midfield. I think we need to find a more mobile defensive midfielder to replace him. I definitely think its worth trying Drew as a defender though. We need to get more creative with positional changes during the early stages of pre-season.Could we turn Drew into a lockdown defender?
I personally don't think he was the speed to do thisYeh I've suggested that too after his poor year in midfield. I think we need to find a more mobile defensive midfielder to replace him. I definitely think its worth trying Drew as a defender though. We need to get more creative with positional changes during the early stages of pre-season.
Benny Barrett or Tom Anastasopoulos could become the small lockdown defender Port has craved. That is the only way I can see them playing AFL. Not sure if they do have the skillset to become a small lockdown defender though.Could we turn Drew into a lockdown defender?
Yeh agree it may fail because of this.I personally don't think he was the speed to do this
Not sure it’s a group think ‘it’s a weak draft’ situation as much as a recognition that taking 3 picks, all after pick 30 in this draft is low yield. It’s also a recognition that there aren’t many ‘sure things’ in this draft. Guys like Whitlock and Moraes likely would sit in the top 15-20 in this draft for example.
It’s not to say that we might not be able to get a good player late, just that it’s less likely in this draft.
Also important to remember that Draftees still get taken on a 2 year deal, whilst a DFA, SSP or rookie can be taken on a single year. So more flexibility with Wehr over pick 50. Or upgrade a rookie and give a summer to a potential player like Lai to show what he can do.
To slowCould we turn Drew into a lockdown defender?
Yeah, I know.I know what you're saying Robbie Gray s don't come along very often but the point I'm making is that they need to do more than one thing. Having guys like Cheese running around chasing guys and not contributing to the scoreboard just can't go on.
Our injury list was larger than was published.Drew was clearly unfit (like with others) this year
Felt like half his possessions were lazy kicks off the deck
If we can get Luko and Marshall on the park I think you'll see a considerable difference and it will help smaller forwards as well. Not to mention a new playing style.Yeah, I know.
A good mix of general forwards is definitely needed. It is very hard to get high quality guys. I want forwards who can kick goals but yeah, they should be able to do other things.
It was one of the bizarre Hinkley traits. He seemed to like attacking defenders and defensive forwards.
As I've said, I don't think we've got a lot of goal kicking talent and creativity with the general forward we've got but we will see how we go. You never know who pops up.
If we can get Luko and Marshall on the park I think you'll see a considerable difference and it will help smaller forwards as well. Not to mention a new playing style.
I think Carr will play a contested style of game. I don't think the defensive line will be as quite as high as Hinkley. I think there will be a focus on winning the loose ball and to try and get a winning advantage in the midfield. I don't expect to see JHF, Bergman or Butters playing up forward much at all.
I think the defence will play a more accountable style and I don't think we will try and force a plus one in defense I think if somebody goes plus one in defence we will go plus one at the stoppage. So we might not see as much Aliir and Rat taking intercept marks.
I might be wrong but that's what I'm expecting to see.
Yeah I agree hopefully if the opposition don't get much clean ball in the midfield and they mop up loose kicks going into our back 50.I worry about Aliir and Rat being forced to defend one on one. It is not either of their strengths. Though Rat actually showed some improvement in that regard this year.
The teams that all made the prelims this year have multiple small forwards that kick goals and create goals. We don’t.Yeah, I know.
A good mix of general forwards is definitely needed. It is very hard to get high quality guys. I want forwards who can kick goals but yeah, they should be able to do other things.
It was one of the bizarre Hinkley traits. He seemed to like attacking defenders and defensive forwards.
As I've said, I don't think we've got a lot of goal kicking talent and creativity with the general forward we've got but we will see how we go. You never know who pops up.
I loved that Geelong team with Stevie Johnson, Mark Chapman and to a lesser extent, Matthew Stokes, Travis Varcoe and just for the fun of it, Selwood or Bartel.The teams that all made the prelims this year have multiple small forwards that kick goals and create goals. We don’t.
Apparently we are aggressively behind doors trying to get a small forward. If we do this - I’m still on the Rozee go forward bandwagon, Richards, Berry, and a midfield rotation spot.
I’d send DBJ back to be a lockdown small defender, and SPP into the midfield (and that forward spot).
I reckon the game has changed. All the good sides have more fit, faster, players who can make space, and good players on the outside and up forward, who can convert.I loved that Geelong team with Stevie Johnson, Mark Chapman and to a lesser extent, Matthew Stokes, Travis Varcoe and just for the fun of it, Selwood or Bartel.
Rozee might be the answer up front but unfortunately he is the answer down back as well.
I hope we pick up Latrelle or grab a guy trading.
We need some guys but Cockers and Mackinley have some potential. Even Barrett.
Considering we tried to address it last year, it is still perilous at best. Zac Bailey would really help out. He'd be a number one and role everyone down a pay grade.
