List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft

[RossFC]

Thanks to Lore for the draft tracker.

 

[Grave Danger]

What happen Jovan - recruiters not convinced he can walk the walk?

 

[Ah12]

The problem with the trade isn’t who we got, it’s that after years of hearing , “you have to pay up for contracted players” , when we had a contracted and valued player we rolled over and showed our soft belly and said, have at it gents.

Then we had to listen to the excuses. What are we gonna do? Ruffle feathers ? lol.

****ing cucks. We should have gotten way more than we did, which would have completely changed the landscape of this and next offseason

By all reports the only reason nwm didn’t ask for a trade is his management didn’t think a trade could be done. We’re afraid that the only way we’re going to get Cochrane next year is trading someone out / best case scenario burning 2 maybe 3 years of draft picks.

It’s the kind of cluster**** that in another high stakes workplace where your dad / uncle isn’t the owner not only ends up with you losing a job, but being virtually unhireable after.

In retrospect we probably should’ve said to NWM management if he requests a trade to use we will deal Butters out now to facilitate it.

 

[Tibbs]

Wait so did we overlook Latrelle Pickett for our NGA? Not sure how it works but there’s a Zero Hanger article saying ‘
‘overlooked for Ports NGA’

AFL Draft Profile: Latrelle Pickett

The mature-aged prospect has made his case as a potential first-round prospect in 2025.

www.zerohanger.com

He was back in the 2023 draft. Overlooked by EVERY club ... Now two years later he is looking the star. Obviously all the recruiters had the same view that he wasnt good enough.

One could say a big miss by everyone really ... But the reality is that he was hardly mentioned until halfway through this year, when he suddenly started to shine, popping up on everyone's radar.

 

[Portwrld]

What happen Jovan - recruiters not convinced he can walk the walk?

IMO, I think so, and apart from the Saints, I don't believe any club is truly considering him.

 

[Byrons Firen]

Even if the picks 46 and 47 are the wrong way around our pick swap with gc sucks compared to the crows.

Are we the gift that keeps on giving for gc?

Yep it looks that way. Sure we've had our misses but of late, we've probably nailed it more often than not.

JHF fell into our lap and i've got high hopes for Stephenson, Durdin's a sleeper n Wher too, both capable of anything

As for Ramm 'n' Whitlock well tighten my seatbelt. Luko... well frankly i'd forgotten about 'im

showed up n disappeared in a hurry. Dunno what to make of him 'cept to think of The Hoff running around like an

unregistered dog, Marshall too for that matter. Both are mobile, have elite foot skills, vision n panache.

We're gunna go well next year. A lot better than many think. It's all on how the players adapt.


We're in good hands.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

The problem with the trade isn’t who we got, it’s that after years of hearing , “you have to pay up for contracted players” , when we had a contracted and valued player we rolled over and showed our soft belly and said, have at it gents.

Then we had to listen to the excuses. What are we gonna do? Ruffle feathers ? lol.

****ing cucks. We should have gotten way more than we did, which would have completely changed the landscape of this and next offseason

By all reports the only reason nwm didn’t ask for a trade is his management didn’t think a trade could be done. We’re afraid that the only way we’re going to get Cochrane next year is trading someone out / best case scenario burning 2 maybe 3 years of draft picks.

It’s the kind of cluster**** that in another high stakes workplace where your dad / uncle isn’t the owner not only ends up with you losing a job, but being virtually unhireable after.

You're correct on all of this, but really the problem goes deeper.

It goes back to the crossroads of 2021, when it was clear we didnt have the head coach calibre we needed to compete. Instead of address that head on, we reverted to "missing piece" mode, overpaying for players that we "needed" to win a flag that was obviously never going to come. The insanity of the Sav trade was just as damaging as the Houston trade and still felt today.

 

[davesnothere]

Nah we are winning this draft so far.

Pickett I like as a third round pick.

That’s what this draft is.

Available players after five are really second and third round picks.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Nah we are winning this draft so far.

Pickett I like as a third round pick.

That’s what this draft is.

Available players after five are really second and third round picks.

Not sure if this was a response to my post?

My point is even if we didn't want to get in to this draft, if we still had our first now, we could have traded it for capital next year for Dougie. I have no issue with us largely skipping a poor draft class if we don't need to go in to it, that can often be the correct decision. If he shows he is a chance of getting back to his best I'd much rather Stephenson than whoever is there at pick 67 for example.

 

[Addy23]

We got one from Carlton also?

Im willing to bet we finish higher than Carlton next year so I'd try to give away our pick instead. I think Phillipou will slide past 30 and our F2 will do.

 

[Addy23]

Wait so did we overlook Latrelle Pickett for our NGA? Not sure how it works but there’s a Zero Hanger article saying ‘
‘overlooked for Ports NGA’

AFL Draft Profile: Latrelle Pickett

The mature-aged prospect has made his case as a potential first-round prospect in 2025.

www.zerohanger.com

He was in our NGA as an 18 year old. However he wasn't even draft worthy last year and the year before. I believe that under old rules the NGA status cannot be carried forward to future years.

This is not on the club whatsoever (and normally I'm the first one to criticise the club). He overcame whatever issues he had in the last 2 years and has now gotten his AFL dream.

In any case, even in this draft, I think pick 12 is at least 8 spots too high for him. I'd have taken Dovaston above him for sure.

 

[Addy23]

The likes of Phillipou, Greeves, Thredgold, Hibbins-Hargraves, Emmet, Hetherton, Oudshoorn-Bennier still on the board.

There's absolutely no doubt that this draft has depth. Totally agree the first round quality is lower than other years but it's a draft where there could be many steals at the back end.

 

[davesnothere]

Not sure if this was a response to my post?

My point is even if we didn't want to get in to this draft, if we still had our first now, we could have traded it for capital next year for Dougie. I have no issue with us largely skipping a poor draft class if we don't need to go in to it, that can often be the correct decision. If he shows he is a chance of getting back to his best I'd much rather Stephenson than whoever is there at pick 67 for example.

No it was a random thought. I have absolutely no problem with your post at all.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Some young talls are among the players expected to be drafted on night two, including SA key defender Blake Thredgold, who was somewhat surprisingly overlooked on Wednesday night, Murray Bushrangers tall forward Liam Hetherton, Sandringham Dragons tall Archie Ludowyke and Vic Metro ruck Louis Emmett.


Night two of the 2025 Telstra AFL Draft will be broadcast on AFL.com.au and the AFL Live app from 7pm AEDT on Thursday.

Night two preview: Young talls set to get their chance, more bids expected

NGA product Jack Ison should land at the Blues early on night two after no bids came for him in the first round of the draft

www.afl.com.au

 

[Ford Fairlane]

after the 1st night of the draft we have picks 62, 67 & 69

How can Gold Coast still have picks 48 and 49 after matching 4 x first round bids? Surely that's an error.

We should be at 60 (the others don't matter)

Gold Coast give away picks 7 and 8 for Petracca and still get 4 x first round picks.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

North will probably take Thredgold with the first pick tonight.

 

[Addy23]

Our pick 49 would've been pick 41 now. Bids to come on Ison, Fincher, King, Williams which could've moved it up potentially another spot.

Maybe I'm being pessimistic and petty over a 3rd round pick. But we might've just trade pick 40 this year for pick 54 next year and we won't even be able to use that pick to match Dougie's bid.

I'm starting to doubt what the point of that trade was. In contrast, Crows traded what would've been pick 39 for what could be pick 42 next year. I simply do not get why gave it away so cheaply.

We should have our round 9 pick allocated to us today as we have 4 senior spots open. So it'll be 62, 67, 69 and 70 soon I think. Expect 62 to ironically end up at 49 or 50ish. Peucker or Kickett

FWIW, I'd be trying to get creative to either land a F2 somehow or get back now into 2nd round and get Phillipou.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

No it was a random thought. I have absolutely no problem with your post at all.

Ah right my bad, it was just immediately after my post and started with "Nah" so I was a bit confused.

 

[Coobk001]

Our pick 49 would've been pick 41 now. Bids to come on Ison, Fincher, King, Williams which could've moved it up potentially another spot.

Maybe I'm being pessimistic and petty over a 3rd round pick. But we might've just trade pick 40 this year for pick 54 next year and we won't even be able to use that pick to match Dougie's bid.

I'm starting to doubt what the point of that trade was. In contrast, Crows traded what would've been pick 39 for what could be pick 42 next year. I simply do not get why gave it away so cheaply.

We should have our round 9 pick allocated to us today as we have 4 senior spots open. So it'll be 62, 67, 69 and 70 soon I think. Expect 62 to ironically end up at 49 or 50ish. Peucker or Kickett

FWIW, I'd be trying to get creative to either land a F2 somehow or get back now into 2nd round and get Phillipou.

Where'd you get 4 from? We've got 3 spots.

Anyway, the GC trade was pretty poor, we might only get 50 points out of it, but might've been the best we could get. We ultimately need points in next years draft. Those points don't have to be directly for us to use on Dougie, but those points could be bundled with other picks to push us up the draft order.

The strategy makes sense. Gain as much currency as possible in the future drafts as we can, gives us more to work with when we need to be wheeling and dealing around our FS and NGA's. We'll no doubt start bringing 2028 and 2029 currency back towards the 26 and 27 drafts as well to boost up our attack on them.

You're kidding yourself if you think we're trading back in, would cost us that future currency which is more important at this stage.

 

[Sewer de Lance]

I know we will personally benefit from acquiring Dougie next year through our Academy pathway, but it does nothing for the integrity of the competition. The population of the SE corner of QLD will only continue to boom which will immensely benefit both QLD clubs for decades to come. The whole current points system needs to be scrapped & completely overhauled.

 

[Coobk001]

I know we will personally benefit from acquiring Dougie next year through our Academy pathway, but it does nothing for the integrity of the competition. The population of the SE corner of QLD will only continue to boom which will immensely benefit both QLD clubs for decades to come. The whole current points system needs to be scrapped & completely overhauled.

It's definitely stupid. GC's list in particular at the moment is starting to look ridiculously scary.

 

[240volt]

Im willing to bet we finish higher than Carlton next year so I'd try to give away our pick instead. I think Phillipou will slide past 30 and our F2 will do.

I can’t see us going back into the second round tonight.
It’s pretty clear we have given up on this draft and are hell bent on keeping as many picks possible for next year onwards.
Tonight is going to be about as exciting as Home & Away catch up.

 

[Wargreymon90]

I know we will personally benefit from acquiring Dougie next year through our Academy pathway, but it does nothing for the integrity of the competition. The population of the SE corner of QLD will only continue to boom which will immensely benefit both QLD clubs for decades to come. The whole current points system needs to be scrapped & completely overhauled.

I actually back the moves the afl are making to protect the integrity of the draft. But as usual, they are completely cocking it up.

You can’t make a drastic change on a whim when clubs like Carlton, Port and Essendon have been planning their lists years in advance based on having access to these players under the current system.

What they should do is forecast many years in advance and say academies/father son will no longer be allowed in the first round etc from 2030 onwards.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Our pick 49 would've been pick 41 now. Bids to come on Ison, Fincher, King, Williams which could've moved it up potentially another spot.

Maybe I'm being pessimistic and petty over a 3rd round pick. But we might've just trade pick 40 this year for pick 54 next year and we won't even be able to use that pick to match Dougie's bid.

I'm starting to doubt what the point of that trade was. In contrast, Crows traded what would've been pick 39 for what could be pick 42 next year. I simply do not get why gave it away so cheaply.

We should have our round 9 pick allocated to us today as we have 4 senior spots open. So it'll be 62, 67, 69 and 70 soon I think. Expect 62 to ironically end up at 49 or 50ish. Peucker or Kickett

FWIW, I'd be trying to get creative to either land a F2 somehow or get back now into 2nd round and get Phillipou.

Agreed. I don't understand largely or entirely trading yourself out of a draft for no real gain. I get top end talent can vary but is a kid picked in the 40s in this draft demonstrably less likely to succeed than a kid picked in the 40s next year?

I think recruiters can talk themselves into decisions based purely on a feeling and those thoughts can spread through a group like a hive mind.

I'm not going to die in a ditch over indicative picks from one year to the next, it's more the broader question of why give up your position in a draft at all for the sake of kicking a can down the road.

Hopefully pick 62 will come back into the 40s and we can get a new player onto our list.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I can’t see us going back into the second round tonight.
It’s pretty clear we have given up on this draft and are hell bent on keeping as many picks possible for next year onwards.
Tonight is going to be about as exciting as Home & Away catch up.

 

[Visenfest]

Agreed. I don't understand largely or entirely trading yourself out of a draft for no real gain. I get top end talent can vary but is a kid picked in the 40s in this draft demonstrably less likely to succeed than a kid picked in the 40s next year?

I think recruiters can talk themselves into decisions based purely on a feeling and those thoughts can spread through a group like a hive mind.

I'm not going to die in a ditch over indicative picks from one year to the next, it's more the broader question of why give up your position in a draft at all for the sake of kicking a can down the road.

Hopefully pick 62 will come back into the 40s and we can get a new player onto our list.

I’m assuming that we’ll try to use the suite of 2nd and 3rd rounders to trade up for another pick in the 1st round next year (if bid matching is tightened). If bid matching is left alone, we’ll have those picks sitting there ready to match a bid on Dougie.