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My hot takes about today:

* The academies are great!!!! The only problem with the academies is that only 4 clubs have them. Every AFL club should have an academy operating under exactly the same draft points rules as the current northern academies. Long term, the standard in AFL would skyrocket if the most talented kids around the country were in academies

* Anyone on this board who both (a) doesn't think Brisbane overcame adversity and also (b) pissed and moaned or said we were "cursed" at the end of 2024 when Treacy got injured and we then lost the last 4 games to miss finals is a hypocrite. Brisbane had, what, five B22 out and won a flag. We lost one FF and this place melted.
 

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My grand final highlight happened before the game when wifey & I were walking the pooch.
I was wearing my Freo scarf & as we passed a restaurant in Southbank (Criniti's) I saw a lady breakfasting there who was also wearing a Freo scarf.
I happily let out a "Go Freo", to which she replied with, "Go Dockers".
It made my day
 
If you look at both sides they have to reinvent to continue to compete


Geelong

Danger 35
Stanley retire
Jeremy Cameron and to Stewart 33 years old

Otherwise prob ok, fair play to their list build


Brisbane
Next year

Zorko 37
Neale (maybe gone 33)
Lester 35
Fort 33
Mcinerney 32
Cameron 32


Allen and Draper are injury prone
 
If you look at both sides they have to reinvent to continue to compete


Geelong

Danger 35
Stanley retire
Jeremy Cameron and to Stewart 33 years old

Otherwise prob ok, fair play to their list build


Brisbane
Next year

Zorko 37
Neale (maybe gone 33)
Lester 35
Fort 33
Mcinerney 32
Cameron 32


Allen and Draper are injury prone

They have the talent. Add in another rope ten draft pick in Dan Annable.

Draper will replace one of the rucks.
Zorko can still go on.
They have a lot of talent in the sheds that’s are injured.
Coleman or Payne can replace Lester.
But at least two of those would go and if they move on Lachie make it three.

I’d say Fort or McInerney, Lester and maybe Neale

Zorko can hold things together for a year or two more.
 
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If you look at both sides they have to reinvent to continue to compete


Geelong

Danger 35
Stanley retire
Jeremy Cameron and to Stewart 33 years old

Otherwise prob ok, fair play to their list build


Brisbane
Next year

Zorko 37
Neale (maybe gone 33)
Lester 35
Fort 33
Mcinerney 32
Cameron 32


Allen and Draper are injury prone

Daniher was considered injury prone…
 
My grand final highlight happened before the game when wifey & I were walking the pooch.
I was wearing my Freo scarf & as we passed a restaurant in Southbank (Criniti's) I saw a lady breakfasting there who was also wearing a Freo scarf.
I happily let out a "Go Freo", to which she replied with, "Go Dockers".
It made my day
I thought walking the pooch was a euphemism for something and was confused for a second. The mental imagery of wearing your freo scarf while 'walking the pooch' was hilarious!
 
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The academies are great!!!! The only problem with the academies is that only 4 clubs have them. Every AFL club should have an academy operating under exactly the same draft points rules as the current northern academies. Long term, the standard in AFL would skyrocket if the most talented kids around the country were in academies
AFL would never let us (or West Coast or even the SA states) have an academy like the ones the north eastern teams gets.

We’re in a genuine footy state and if we had complete access to all footy players coming through the draft every year we would eventually become unstoppable.

There’s just more talent over here than in Queensland/New South Wales. And only 2 teams to split the entirety of the state? AFL would never go for it.

Think Victoria would be fine due to the amount of teams, but you’d never see that kind of academy in SA or WA.
 
AFL would never let us (or West Coast or even the SA states) have an academy like the ones the north eastern teams gets.

We’re in a genuine footy state and if we had complete access to all footy players coming through the draft every year we would eventually become unstoppable.

There’s just more talent over here than in Queensland/New South Wales. And only 2 teams to split the entirety of the state? AFL would never go for it.

Think Victoria would be fine due to the amount of teams, but you’d never see that kind of academy in SA or WA.
I agree that we won't get academies. But I think footy development in WA and SA is falling way behind other states. Just have to look at how the top 20 is, well, not dominated by WA and SA kids to see that.

I know there are people here very invested in the WAFL. I loved the WAFL back in the day.

So I know some will absolutely disagree with me ... but having WA or SA kids develop through state league colts means that they are not getting the best chance to fulfill their potential. Long term it will damage both WA and SA as footy states.

The proven track record of the northern academies in pumping out high end talented kids shows everyone that this is the best model for elite talent development.
 
I agree that we won't get academies. But I think footy development in WA and SA is falling way behind other states. Just have to look at how the top 20 is, well, not dominated by WA and SA kids to see that.

I know there are people here very invested in the WAFL. I loved the WAFL back in the day.

So I know some will absolutely disagree with me ... but having WA or SA kids develop through state league colts means that they are not getting the best chance to fulfill their potential. Long term it will damage both WA and SA as footy states.

The proven track record of the northern academies in pumping out high end talented kids shows everyone that this is the best model for elite talent development.
Yep, I heard one of the Brisbane assistants, can't remember which one, getting interviewed on the radio saying that the kids getting drafted now are so well prepared they can play straight away which is why you can win a flag with so many young players. What he really meant is kids coming out of Vic and the northern academies, not from WA and SA
 
I agree that we won't get academies. But I think footy development in WA and SA is falling way behind other states. Just have to look at how the top 20 is, well, not dominated by WA and SA kids to see that.

I know there are people here very invested in the WAFL. I loved the WAFL back in the day.

So I know some will absolutely disagree with me ... but having WA or SA kids develop through state league colts means that they are not getting the best chance to fulfill their potential. Long term it will damage both WA and SA as footy states.

The proven track record of the northern academies in pumping out high end talented kids shows everyone that this is the best model for elite talent development.

What is the option?

Hand over development of all under age players to the AFL?

I still think the best option is to fund the current system better.
 

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What is the option?

Hand over development of all under age players to the AFL?

I still think the best option is to fund the current system better.

We punch over a million a year into the WAFC, West Coast usually over two.

What do we get for this? 18 clubs getting equal access to WA players. It’s ****ed.

I think the solution to all of this is to give all clubs an exclusive zone, equal in population.

Each club gets 1 pre-listed player from the academy and/or after/son pathways per year. Perhaps you can roll it forward if you have no one worth on a particular year.

The AFL can even mandate a max spend.
 
What the actual f(k ?!?!?!

That’s kind of scary
What a looper
I’ll never un-see that when I see that weirdo on Tv next ( if he’s not in a maximum security prison or mental institution)
He’s got genuine issues, his dad played in a flag at Geelong and played state footy for Victoria and he’s hung up on ‘daddy’ as he calls him in quite a peculiar way. Check the hard drive indeed.
 
We punch over a million a year into the WAFC, West Coast usually over two.

What do we get for this? 18 clubs getting equal access to WA players. It’s ****ed.

I think the solution to all of this is to give all clubs an exclusive zone, equal in population.

Each club gets 1 pre-listed player from the academy and/or after/son pathways per year. Perhaps you can roll it forward if you have no one worth on a particular year.

The AFL can even mandate a max spend.
The WAFL pathway is really good though, it’s a saviour for country football especially in a massive state like WA. It’s pretty impressive how many guys come from towns with a post office and pub hours from Perth. The WAFL system links very well and you don’t want to diminish that.

It’s all politics though because there’s lots of WAFL clubs who don’t like the AFL ones, but it would be great to see them equally split and aligned. It would be great to see Freo be able to select their favourite Souths/East Fremantle/Swans/Peel player every year but also have four additional rookie spots allocated to players from those clubs who weren’t bid on from other sides.
 
I remember hearing somewhere Gerard Neesham pitched that we should get priority access to players from the 2 Freo WAFL clubs. Anyone else hear anything like this they can shed any light on?
 
I agree that we won't get academies. But I think footy development in WA and SA is falling way behind other states. Just have to look at how the top 20 is, well, not dominated by WA and SA kids to see that.

I know there are people here very invested in the WAFL. I loved the WAFL back in the day.

So I know some will absolutely disagree with me ... but having WA or SA kids develop through state league colts means that they are not getting the best chance to fulfill their potential. Long term it will damage both WA and SA as footy states.

The proven track record of the northern academies in pumping out high end talented kids shows everyone that this is the best model for elite talent development.

South Oz just won the under 18's quite convincingly, so no SA is going ok.
WA is going backwards at a rate of knots.
The WAFC is a bureaucracy, and doesn't do anything.
WA could become a complete irrelevance in drafting and just generally. Most of the good Freo players are Vicco's, apart from Jackson.
We should get an academy just to shore up our talent, but it'll never happen coz the WAFC is bereft of leadership, and the WA clubs just exist for self interest
 
We punch over a million a year into the WAFC, West Coast usually over two.

What do we get for this? 18 clubs getting equal access to WA players. It’s ****ed.

I think the solution to all of this is to give all clubs an exclusive zone, equal in population.

Each club gets 1 pre-listed player from the academy and/or after/son pathways per year. Perhaps you can roll it forward if you have no one worth on a particular year.

The AFL can even mandate a max spend.
Good idea but it will never happen. Doesn't give enough advantage to the northern state clubs.
The only way it evens up in our life times is if the Bears come in and become a juggernaut. Even then, it will be years before it is felt in the AFL/WAFC pockets.
 

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