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Suns have 7 list spots open and 7 picks… couldn’t trade any picks until the draft starts
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Opinion 2025 bidding strategies
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Are you sure about the list spot rule?
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100% sure.
We can once the draft starts trade 15, 18 etc for another 6 picks for instance giving us 13 picks to match bids.
Lions, Suns, Swans etc will do live trades on the night. Bookmark this and come back to me once it happens
Not sure there will be a lot of demand or these clubs will get significant returns for their picks like previous years
Suns 15 & 18 will be desired but not too sure which team has significant picks to satisfy the suns
Nort look the obvious club but the draft looks pretty average at the suns picks all the way to #30
Not too sure i would chase a pick that could end up around 20-23 and give up too much when i know they could get wiped out if i dont trade and my picks move up 2 spots if they cant get a trade.
Which teams do you see coming for #15 + #18
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If that can still happen then that loop hole needs closing.
Using 13 junk picks to land 2 x top 5 talents should not be allowed, needs to be some restrictions in place to end the farce.
Feel the changes made this year are good and are heading in the right dirrection, still loop holes to close.
Im hoping the Eagles start bidding at pick 2 and keep bidding x 3 bids.
Gold Coast at 2, then 3 and Lions at 4.
Eagles Allan compo slides to pick 5. If Blues trade 9 for 13 and 34 then no bid on Dean.
Bids result pushes the compo pick out to pick 6 and the PP goes out to a pick in the mid 20's and we make sure its used to match a bid Just to show the media nuffies and everyone just how much priority accese / AFL assistance teams better than the Eagles are still getting.
No risk on GC or Lions bidding in the 20s or 30s on Eagles nga's. Those picks will be gone and Suns have Annable who they want later and need a list spot for.
Gold Coast at 2, then 3 and Lions at 4.
Eagles Allan compo slides to pick 5. If Blues trade 9 for 13 and 34 then no bid on Dean.
Bids result pushes the compo pick out to pick 6 and the PP goes out to a pick in the mid 20's and we make sure its used to match a bid Just to show the media nuffies and everyone just how much priority accese / AFL assistance teams better than the Eagles are still getting.
No risk on GC or Lions bidding in the 20s or 30s on Eagles nga's. Those picks will be gone and Suns have Annable who they want later and need a list spot for.
Why stop there ?
Make a real point and start bidding with pick #1 Uwland #2 Patterson #3 Annable and blow up the draft
Its only $10,000 that Duursma misses out on and im sure thats easly fixed
Richmond can bid on dean with #6
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No real point unless WC fancy bidding on one of Addinsall/Coulson/Murray. Even then the Suns might still get the points.
I'm sure Zeke Uwland would be delighted to be known forever after as a number one pick though
Pure_Ownage
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This loop hole still exists as we saw last year-i ageee it should be closed.
mpal6
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They won't close this one as it adds to the drama on draft night, giving AFL more event selling points to media.
They have reduced the DVI already so any accumulation of lower picks won't get a first round match. It'll be a second or third at best, care factor is low if junk picks float around for matching at those levels.
Loving that Cal is reporting the Eagles likely to bid on Uwland at 2 then Dean at 3 sounds perfect for a club holding pick 13. With the news coming that Blues likely to just let 9 take the brunt of points with 11 dropping back to later teens.
Meanwhile, pick 13 comes up 2 picks (ignoring club tied landing spots.
Draft order after Dons current 5&6 then becomes Dees, Dees, Hawks, Eagles
Meanwhile, pick 13 comes up 2 picks (ignoring club tied landing spots.
Draft order after Dons current 5&6 then becomes Dees, Dees, Hawks, Eagles
I wouldnt count them chickens yet
Just think if that does eventuate the blues will be inclined to trade with other clubs to move the picks
Bombers with 21 , 27 , 30 for 9 + 54 would be the call and trade out #11 to Crows for a F1
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I have my doubts WC will bid on anyone, let alone all of them before making our actual pick at 4 or 5 or whenever.
I fully expect us to pick Duursma at #1 then Sharp or Robey or whoever at #2 and then whatever happens happens between then and our next pick which is nominally #13.
Not sure what you’ve heard but I thought Cal clarified this week that Crows F1 is not on the table
Doesnt have to be the Crows
Its been reported both Collingwood & St Kilda are looking to get into this years draft and there are always clubs that see a player they want still on the board and trade into the draft for that player similar to North last year giving up pick #4 for #27 + What could be #32/#33 this year
Agree
I think the earliest Dean gets bid on is with Richmonds pick #4 that will end up #7 after Uwland , Patterson , Annable
so Pick #7 bid and matched with #12 with #14 going back to around 20 ( have not done the match)
Pretty sure next year a maximum of 2 picks only will be allowed to be used to match a bid. Will make it super interesting, a lot fairer and will close that loophole somewhat
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One aspect with Harry Dean also is we bid at pick 2 then Pick 13 comes pick 11....
Who knows what the rules will be next year. First, AFL said they will announce them before trade period. Now apparently in Dec. Just terrible from AFL.
I bet there is some strong resistance from clubs with top prospects like Carlton, Port. It would not shock me if the rules stay the same.
As a Suns fan, I have to chuckle a bit. We loaded up 2 years ago and again this year. Now with unified rules for F/S, NGA, academy these predicted rules should bite clubs hard.
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Question is
If Eagles or someone take Addinsall with a top 15 pick, does Gold Coast match? This would wipe out their 2026 picks
I mean they have basically only kept points for the Uwland/Paterson duo and then left Addinsall as a decision point ie. trade a future 2nd to get him. If that isnt possible then thats it yeah?
If Eagles or someone take Addinsall with a top 15 pick, does Gold Coast match? This would wipe out their 2026 picks
I mean they have basically only kept points for the Uwland/Paterson duo and then left Addinsall as a decision point ie. trade a future 2nd to get him. If that isnt possible then thats it yeah?
Some media speculate Suns rate Murray higher than Addinsall.
It depends on when bids come. I suspect Addinsall could be available with early bid.
I don't think it would bother Suns to go to deficit.
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How do you get Murray either?
If Uwland is bid on at pick 2 that is 1952 points and if Paterson is at pick 4 that is 1569. That leaves you with 252 points + F2nd and F3rd for both Murray and Addinsall.
This would mean that if either Murray or Addinsall are bid on before pick 30 you go into a deficit to get either of them. If either get bid on before pick 20 then your point deficict would stretch into 2027 to match any of them. You also have Archie Hill next year too.
Let's say Uwland and Patterson bids are picks 2 and 4. That is still needing 200 points but as matching later picks are used they move up so basically current 3773 covers Uwland and Patterson.
Then Suns will probably trade some picks for extra points (15, 18, ...), let's say for min 300 extra points. Then deficit someone speculated for Suns is 662.
Let's say WB use pick 14 on Murray. It will become I guess pick 19 due to all early bids. That's 716 points required.
Sun could try to trade in extra pick(s) or may get more extra points when trading picks.
Coulson is highly likely late pick in 40. Easy to match. His father is official number 1 Suns fan.
I suspect if both bids on Murray and Addinsall come 30+, Suns will match both. Bid pick 30 - 408 points required to match. If both bids come in the first round Suns will match only one.
Except for Patterson all others have strong home factor attached. I would actually prefer Addinsall to be drafted by other club. Not easy to break into the line up. If he makes it, let's bring him home in 3 years, haha.
Next year I would expect 1-2 good players leaving with picks coming in as a result. Just imagine price on Humphrey's head (not saying he is leaving, haha).
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